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knottywood  
#1 Posted : Tuesday, February 15, 2022 8:13:33 AM(UTC)
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My position is Schedule A, Excepted Service with a 3 year probationary period. My offer includes the following that I do not fully understand and would appreciate insight to what it means.

"Upon satisfactorily completion of 2 years of substantially continuous service you may be non-competitively converted to a career-conditional appointment"
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#2 Posted : Tuesday, February 15, 2022 10:59:56 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: knottywood Go to Quoted Post
My position is Schedule A, Excepted Service with a 3 year probationary period. My offer includes the following that I do not fully understand and would appreciate insight to what it means.

"Upon satisfactorily completion of 2 years of substantially continuous service you may be non-competitively converted to a career-conditional appointment"

I did not have a Schedule A Excepted position, yet I also had a 3 year probation period. After 2 years I was Career Conditional, and after the 3rd year I became Career. Seems too long?
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#3 Posted : Tuesday, February 15, 2022 11:36:48 AM(UTC)
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so does that mean my position can transfer from Excepted Service into Competitive at the 2 year mark?
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#4 Posted : Tuesday, February 15, 2022 1:52:13 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: knottywood Go to Quoted Post
so does that mean my position can transfer from Excepted Service into Competitive at the 2 year mark?
I would say that depends where you are transferring?

"If you're in the excepted service and your agency has an Interchange Agreement, you may be eligible to move to another job in the competitive service".

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#5 Posted : Wednesday, February 16, 2022 5:01:21 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: knottywood Go to Quoted Post
so does that mean my position can transfer from Excepted Service into Competitive at the 2 year mark?
If the position would otherwise be competitive service, yes.

You should have voted Cthulu...the greatest of all Evils
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#6 Posted : Sunday, February 20, 2022 5:07:31 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: knottywood Go to Quoted Post
My position is Schedule A, Excepted Service with a 3 year probationary period. My offer includes the following that I do not fully understand and would appreciate insight to what it means.

"Upon satisfactorily completion of 2 years of substantially continuous service you may be non-competitively converted to a career-conditional appointment"


The "trial period" is two years. The position may or may not transition from excepted service to competitive service after two years. After three years you go from career-conditional to career.

Or in other words, easy to walk you out the door for the first two years, not so much so between year two and year three, and after year three you are set for life...
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#7 Posted : Sunday, February 20, 2022 7:45:59 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: FrankJr Go to Quoted Post
Or in other words, easy to walk you out the door for the first two years, not so much so between year two and year three, and after year three you are set for life...


I have lost count of the number of successful removals of career employees that I have advised on. While there are processes to follow and appeal rights, it is not all that difficult.
The excuse of, "I read it on FederalSoup..." won't work. Please do your due diligence.
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#8 Posted : Sunday, February 20, 2022 11:06:41 PM(UTC)
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Or in other words, easy to walk you out the door for the first two years, not so much so between year two and year three, and after year three you are set for life...


I have lost count of the number of successful removals of career employees that I have advised on. While there are processes to follow and appeal rights, it is not all that difficult.
I went on D.R. and soon after my agency promoted my Spanish speaking group to GS 12's. I have no reason to believe that I wouldn't of been RIF'd or eliminated. One of my first questions when I was hired was why hire me? A few hundred Federal employees with just a handful that spoke English~
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Originally Posted by: knottywood Go to Quoted Post
My position is Schedule A, Excepted Service with a 3 year probationary period. My offer includes the following that I do not fully understand and would appreciate insight to what it means.

"Upon satisfactorily completion of 2 years of substantially continuous service you may be non-competitively converted to a career-conditional appointment"



It means you automatically shift from excepted service to competitive service like regular job holders. It’s a good thing.
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