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#1 Posted : Tuesday, February 2, 2010 7:59:25 AM(UTC)
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I recently received an conditional offer of employment with the FBI in January of 2010 for an investigative specialist, very excited.Investigator-832010-02-04 21:16:57
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#2 Posted : Wednesday, February 3, 2010 1:02:43 AM(UTC)

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I would talk to your Applicant Coordinator about this. It's something like: (1) no "hard" drugs in the last 10 years, period. (2) no weed in the last three years or more than XX times.

As with most of the advise on the board, disclose anything you're worried about before the Poly...my office told me of the people who pass Phase II, still 50-70% fail the poly, and the vast majority of those were due to violating the drug policy. 

(For example, one gentleman failed the poly because he told them he smoked weed 14x when he had actually smoked ~16 times. Another failed because he had done coke 11 years ago when he said he hadn't done it in the last 10 years--examples given by AC)
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#3 Posted : Wednesday, February 3, 2010 1:10:30 AM(UTC)

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rev wrote:
I would talk to your Applicant Coordinator about this. It's something like: (1) no "hard" drugs in the last 10 years, period. (2) no weed in the last three years or more than XX times.

As with most of the advise on the board, disclose anything you're worried about before the Poly...my office told me of the people who pass Phase II, still 50-70% fail the poly, and the vast majority of those were due to violating the drug policy. 

(For example, one gentleman failed the poly because he told them he smoked weed 14x when he had actually smoked ~16 times. Another failed because he had done coke 11 years ago when he said he hadn't done it in the last 10 years--examples given by AC)
 
 
Why were they even wasting money and time polygraphing them if the cut off for marijuana is no more than three times and no hard drugs at all?
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#4 Posted : Wednesday, February 3, 2010 6:34:05 PM(UTC)
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Why were they even wasting money and time polygraphing them if the cut off for marijuana is no more than three times and no hard drugs at all?
Because some people wait until the polygraph to "fess" up to their true drug usage.
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#5 Posted : Wednesday, February 3, 2010 11:22:29 PM(UTC)

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Well, he didn't specify that.  But yet he said his AC told him/her about the one gentleman who had done it 14 times, then admitted it was 16 times, probably after the poly.  Now, did he admit the 14 times before during his pre-interview?  The when he flunked it, the poly, I presume he said it was really 16 times. If so, why was he even allowed to go to the next step of the poly if it's 3 times or less for MJ?  Or did he admit to the polygrapher right before being hooked up?  If so, why still did said polygrapher still proceed?  Why didn't they tell them that "thank you for your candor and for not wasting our time" and escort him out of the building? Witchfinder2010-02-04 07:59:58
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#6 Posted : Thursday, February 4, 2010 2:23:38 AM(UTC)
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At one time is was 15 times or less so that is what may have gotten him thrown out. A lack of candor to admit the real number when the candidate knew they were over the limit. They (just like any other agency) will immediately terminate the process once you admit (or have been found to have broken) a disqualifier.
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Witchfinder wrote:
rev wrote:
(For example, one gentleman failed the poly because he told them he smoked weed 14x when he had actually smoked ~16 times. Another failed because he had done coke 11 years ago when he said he hadn't done it in the last 10 years--examples given by AC)
 


Wow that is absurd....that just shows how intangible and insubstantial these poly tests are at times.

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#8 Posted : Thursday, February 4, 2010 5:52:50 AM(UTC)

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Really, I was told by my AC and my contact (whom I had more contact with than my ac), and my pre-interview agent that it was only 3 times or less and that they never even used to allow candidates to go through the process if they had even tried marijuana once.  In the past couple of years, they had to relax that prerequisite because I guess they were losing out on alot of people.  I remember even talking with my colleagues about it when many of us were filling out our applications and it was stressesd then that if you had done marijuana, it used to be that you wouldn't be chosen, but now, if you had it below three times, you were ok.
 
 
Does anbody know when these changes took effect?  Either the 15 or the 3 times?
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#9 Posted : Thursday, February 4, 2010 7:55:12 AM(UTC)

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Apparently the change came about in 2007, very low key:
 
 
 
Still, 15 times is quite execessive.  Plus, why was I told along with the other people applying that it was 3 times or less?  Never really mattered to me as I never did the stuff or anything else, but still what's the deal with 3 times or less we were always hammered with?
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#10 Posted : Friday, February 5, 2010 8:14:06 AM(UTC)

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Good Evening All,

I noticed the topic and thought I would bring some additional information to the table to help maybe show that the policy of disqualifying folks from these jobs could very well be a loss in some very qualified candidates.
If you look at this link from the WhiteHouse you will see that nearly 50% of the population from 18-25 used drugs at sometime from 1979-2001.
 
 
I personnally admitted my use and got myself a TS/SCI but that was for the DoD.  But I believe mitigating factors were accounted for, which is a requirement in adjudication process for a clearance.  I found this website below provided some insight into what the regulations are for clearances.
 
 
I for one think everyone is young and dumb at one time and make mistakes they are not proud.  I also believe that if they are in fact are truthful and show integrity and admit to their mistakes they should not be punished for it.  I know its a controversial topic and may get ripped to shreds but if 50% of those folks used drugs at one time.  How many folks actually lied to get in where they are today?  Also are they the ones that are actually disqualifying folks for the very same thing.
 
I hope this helps some, and maybe brings another light to the subject.
 
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#11 Posted : Friday, February 5, 2010 8:47:41 AM(UTC)

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Inteldevildog,
 
 
Very enlightening.  I like the way you think.  I have no doubt that these people who control our fate and future are not who they seem.
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