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Manny06  
#1 Posted : Tuesday, April 25, 2017 7:28:48 AM(UTC)
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Good morning good people,
Does anyone, who have been through the hiring process start to finish, know how it works after the background investigation is completed? Once its complete, the investigator sends the packet to the adjudication department and then they make a decision? Is the adjudication step where it can take forever? Are you then put on a "cleared" and put into a pool until they can figure out where and when you will work? Thanks in advance.
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#2 Posted : Tuesday, April 25, 2017 8:15:36 AM(UTC)
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Adjudication doesn't take forever but it sure seems that way.

Once you get cleared, there is some sort of cleared list that gets sent around to offices along with your resume. I guess they can express an interest. You should then get a call from HR with the offer... I am not sure if you can decline an offer in hope of getting a better one.
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#3 Posted : Tuesday, April 25, 2017 8:18:11 AM(UTC)
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Will the FO have your actual duty station on there? I heard you can be stationed anywhere.
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#4 Posted : Tuesday, April 25, 2017 9:10:48 AM(UTC)
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Will the FO have your actual duty station on there? I heard you can be stationed anywhere.


Yes the FJO includes your official duty station.
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#5 Posted : Tuesday, April 25, 2017 9:58:18 AM(UTC)
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Now can you negotiate your station?
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#6 Posted : Tuesday, April 25, 2017 10:46:31 AM(UTC)
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Now can you negotiate your station?


I think once you enter the hiring pool you are chosen and that's the billet and location you are offered! Not sure if an additional negotiation is possible after that! From my understanding I was not assigned to the hiring pool! I was assign a specific billet in a office at my hiring event and it's was in my CJO!
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#7 Posted : Friday, April 28, 2017 6:06:35 AM(UTC)
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Good morning good people,

This is just an update....I recvd a call from my background investigator, and with all the horror stories circulating about not returning calls and so forth, my investigator kept in touch the whole way. She was very forthcoming with the process. She let me know that it is still a long process but we are moving in the right direction. Which was a sense of relief because of the communication gap at times. My packet will be sent over within the next few days and its on to the next stage, which i think is adjudication correct?
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#8 Posted : Friday, April 28, 2017 6:22:49 AM(UTC)
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The packet will be sent over, but until they start reviewing it you are in another waiting list sort of if that makes sense. But yes the next step is adjudication once they continue it.
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#9 Posted : Friday, April 28, 2017 4:02:21 PM(UTC)
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Auspex,

Do you mind telling us what a "developed character reference" is supposed to be?
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#10 Posted : Friday, April 28, 2017 5:19:48 PM(UTC)
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The Security office distances themselves from the private companies who hire independent contractors. The private companies distance themselves from the independent contractors.

Is that correct? It was my understanding (possibly incorrect) that DIA contracted directly with investigators who are mostly retired feds. At any rate I don't think they use the usual gang of OPM contract companies.

Hang on, I can tell you that once you get past all this you will have more contact with actual people who will answer questions!

In the meantime let me share this little snippet of security info from the most recent Analysis Monthtly Newsletter:
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Security (Average 76 days): Security will conduct a background investigation to determine favorable adjudication. Please be patient, as updates from Security on your processing are minimal, and adjudication can take up to 1 year (12 months) depending on an individual’s background.

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Not sure how a process that takes an average of 76 days includes an adjudication phase that can take up to a year but its just numbers :)

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#11 Posted : Friday, April 28, 2017 5:22:00 PM(UTC)
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Kaliino,

I can understand that mistakes made my the investigators during the BI could make the process longer. But how would it prevent a candidate from being given an FJO if the mistakes aren't his or her fault?
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#12 Posted : Friday, April 28, 2017 5:30:30 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: rebels8 Go to Quoted Post
But how would it prevent a candidate from being given an FJO if the mistakes aren't his or her fault?

If inaccurate info that is not favorable makes it into the final report, the adjudicator could decide not to grant a clearance... it has been known to happen. From what I've read on these forums, the adjudicators do reach out to candidates for additional info, so hopefully any discrepancies could be addressed at that point.

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#13 Posted : Wednesday, May 03, 2017 4:00:41 AM(UTC)
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Good morning all,
Has anyone had two seperate BI's contact the same reference? The reference lives out of state but was contacted by the 1st investigator and then I received a call (from a seperate BI) again asking if my reference knew that his name was used and he would meet the investigator face to face. I havent read on the blog that 1 reference has been contacted twice...
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#14 Posted : Wednesday, May 03, 2017 8:41:21 AM(UTC)
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Also just found out that one of my contacts with whom the investigator in another state wanted to meet face to face...is possibly out of the country for a month!!!! just when you thought you were mmaking real progress...lol oh well, I wonder what will happen. Will they wait on the guy to return? or move on to the next.....or if this was the last interview, will they skip it?
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#15 Posted : Wednesday, May 03, 2017 8:46:48 AM(UTC)
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This reference was the only one out of state. Will they want to meet with someone esle thats on my list? The next reference will not be out of state, so i wonder if my Maryland investigator will be notified to interview another person?
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#16 Posted : Wednesday, May 03, 2017 9:21:50 AM(UTC)
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My uncle, who is a retired Air Force officer and now works for a defense contractor, told me recently that background investigators will often ask the references on your SF-86 what other people knew you and then they interview these people and ask them the same thing. Does anybody know if this is the norm?
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#17 Posted : Thursday, May 04, 2017 6:18:06 AM(UTC)
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Separate issue: has anybody gone through the process with radio silence (no BI interviews, no calls for questions, no contact with security)? The only word I have that I'm actually in security is from CPC that they transferred by package to security (back in mid-March) and can no longer track my package, so I have no one to ask about where I am. Is this a thing that happens?

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Good to know. I suppose there's something comforting that you're not the only one, right?
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#19 Posted : Thursday, May 04, 2017 8:17:03 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: hitman365 Go to Quoted Post
Separate issue: has anybody gone through the process with radio silence (no BI interviews, no calls for questions, no contact with security)?

That's pretty much how it went with me. I made numerous attempts to reach out to them, but nobody ever contacted me until after my clearance was adjudicated... and I only found out about that because security at my current contractor job could see it!

But many people do get contacted for follow-up questions, and if you just completed CPC in mid-March it still may be pretty early in the game. I went to CPC in June '16 and finally was contacted in April of this year.

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#20 Posted : Thursday, May 04, 2017 8:22:45 AM(UTC)
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The info you guys have relayed certainly has eased my stress, thanks! I went to CPC in late Jan actually. I first got word that my packet was sent to security in feb, but then was recontacted in March because they misplaced my resume. So maybe this month, maybe June. I just wasn't sure if there was definitely a sit down interview with an instate BI, kind of like the one at CPC.

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