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#1 Posted : Thursday, October 12, 2017 6:01:09 AM(UTC)
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#2 Posted : Thursday, October 12, 2017 9:04:35 AM(UTC)
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Oh well, we knew they could do away with the promotion "anomaly" at any time and there it is!

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#3 Posted : Thursday, October 12, 2017 10:28:27 AM(UTC)
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Oh well, we knew they could do away with the promotion "anomaly" at any time and there it is!



Can you explain further? I read the information but it was not clear to me.
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#4 Posted : Thursday, October 12, 2017 1:28:04 PM(UTC)
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Quick question i went from cca to t6 nov 12 2016 pay grade c2 then bid a regular route in march 2017 pay grade 1a is that correct that i lost those steps?
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#5 Posted : Thursday, October 12, 2017 2:11:11 PM(UTC)
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Oh well, we knew they could do away with the promotion "anomaly" at any time and there it is!



Can you explain further? I read the information but it was not clear to me.


Way I read it, says starting Sat. 14th, when going from regular route to T-6 you will stay in the same step, no 2 step bumps anymore...it was a loophole and only took them 4.75 years to fix.

If you didn't take advantage of it in the last 4.75 years you'll only get the small raise of the grade 2 pay, not the almost $2/hour 2 step bumps.

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#6 Posted : Thursday, October 12, 2017 2:16:52 PM(UTC)
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Quick question i went from cca to t6 nov 12 2016 pay grade c2 then bid a regular route in march 2017 pay grade 1a is that correct that i lost those steps?


Yes, why should you get a higher step? It takes 46? weeks to advance to step B.

You were lucky to be at step C with no time in as a T-6, that's what they just changed here.

I think that if you bid back to a T-6 though, you'd be back to step C as it would be a re-promotion which is different.
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#7 Posted : Thursday, October 12, 2017 3:52:42 PM(UTC)
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Can you explain further? I read the information but it was not clear to me.


If you go to the NALC website, you can look at the original ELM for 2016. The section 422.223 is what I was looking at. The original rules section that says "Promotion within this schedule" in italics as been rearranged to two separate sections for city carriers as well as folds in other crafts rules. (1) Promotion within Schedule 1 has remained exactly the same wording keeping the 2 times the prevelant step. (2) Promotion within Schedule 2 is brand new and states that you move up to Grade 2 and keep the same waiting period step credit from Grade 1. I'm guessing the wording of "Schedule 1" and "Schedule 2" is referring to "Table 1" and "Table 2" of the salary chart.


Now a FTR T-6! (Converted May 2014)
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#8 Posted : Thursday, October 12, 2017 4:03:42 PM(UTC)
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So I'm going from a t-6 position to a full time route this Saturday. Does that mean I wont lose 2 steps now? I was full time beginning Jan. 2014. Route I successfully bid on is a nice route(better than being a T6 between 2 stations). I'd rather take a pay cut than do a couple routes that I had on my swing. Thanks
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#9 Posted : Thursday, October 12, 2017 6:49:55 PM(UTC)
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So I'm going from a t-6 position to a full time route this Saturday. Does that mean I wont lose 2 steps now? I was full time beginning Jan. 2014. Route I successfully bid on is a nice route(better than being a T6 between 2 stations). I'd rather take a pay cut than do a couple routes that I had on my swing. Thanks


Im wondering the same thing... i just got a t6 last month but i want to bid off it but not if i take a $2 paycut lol
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#10 Posted : Thursday, October 12, 2017 7:02:37 PM(UTC)
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Take a job because you feel the job is good for you. Not because of the pay. No amount of money is worth not liking you job.
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#11 Posted : Thursday, October 12, 2017 7:19:11 PM(UTC)
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Take a job because you feel the job is good for you. Not because of the pay. No amount of money is worth not liking you job.


I took the t6 to get off a walking route.
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#12 Posted : Thursday, October 12, 2017 8:31:32 PM(UTC)
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Take a job because you feel the job is good for you. Not because of the pay. No amount of money is worth not liking you job.


I took the t6 to get off a walking route.


What is your reason for bidding off the T6 job?
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#13 Posted : Friday, October 13, 2017 2:38:48 AM(UTC)
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"effective Sat, Oct. 14th"

For those of us who are already receiving this pay anomaly, does this mean that we will be receiving a 2 step reduction in pay this weekend?

Or do you think that the people who are already receiving the bump, will retain it so long as they remain T6?
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#14 Posted : Friday, October 13, 2017 6:07:33 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Livin' Go to Quoted Post
"effective Sat, Oct. 14th"

For those of us who are already receiving this pay anomaly, does this mean that we will be receiving a 2 step reduction in pay this weekend?

Or do you think that the people who are already receiving the bump, will retain it so long as they remain T6?


imo they can not take pay away from you.
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#15 Posted : Friday, October 13, 2017 8:16:55 AM(UTC)
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I'm currently a T6 at step C2. If I bid down to a route, would I go down to Step A or Step B? I would have been in A if I wasn't a T6 but I have TE time and would have been moved to Step B anyway. I wasn't in Step A when the new contract was ratified.
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#16 Posted : Friday, October 13, 2017 4:18:30 PM(UTC)
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"effective Sat, Oct. 14th"

For those of us who are already receiving this pay anomaly, does this mean that we will be receiving a 2 step reduction in pay this weekend?

Or do you think that the people who are already receiving the bump, will retain it so long as they remain T6?


imo they can not take pay away from you.


Thanks. I hope ur right. You probably are. I guess I will know for sure in 2 weeks. Cheers!
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#17 Posted : Sunday, October 15, 2017 5:54:04 AM(UTC)
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Benjim24..........please update when you check your pay stub in 2 weeks. Thanks

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#18 Posted : Sunday, October 15, 2017 7:11:25 AM(UTC)
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So this should be interesting. Yesterday was my first day as a T6 after being unassigned for almost 2 years. I did have a hold down on the same set for the past few weeks, so I was getting the 2 step increase. If I'm lucky, the pay will just carryover into my bid. Have to wait 2 weeks to find out I guess.
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#19 Posted : Sunday, October 15, 2017 7:19:12 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Clutch Go to Quoted Post
So this should be interesting. Yesterday was my first day as a T6 after being unassigned for almost 2 years. I did have a hold down on the same set for the past few weeks, so I was getting the 2 step increase. If I'm lucky, the pay will just carryover into my bid. Have to wait 2 weeks to find out I guess.


Maybe there was a reason for T6 positions starting on 10/14. I bet you don't get the big bump.
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#20 Posted : Sunday, October 15, 2017 6:14:37 PM(UTC)
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I received the 2 step bump when I bid to a T6 position. My PS50 said that my next step was pay period 24 2017. I checked EOPF today and saw a PS50 cut yesterday that stated "step waiting period updated to address promotion overpayment" and it updated my next step to pay period 09 2019. My read on this is that I kept the two step bump, but I now won't reach step D until the time that I would have gotten there had I started out at step A. Now I'm just trying to figure out if there is anything anywhere that would allow them to keep me at one pay step for 138 weeks.
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