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TMHTE  
#81 Posted : Wednesday, May 31, 2017 1:16:43 PM(UTC)
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Having a clearance doesn't help you unless you already work at the agency and it's currently in-scope. Everybody else has to wait a while.
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#82 Posted : Thursday, October 12, 2017 3:25:57 AM(UTC)
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WOOOOOweee it's THURSDAY. Channeling my inner Chevy. Time for some resurrection. Let's get some HUMINTers/CI off this board. #FJOThursday

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#83 Posted : Thursday, October 12, 2017 7:04:10 AM(UTC)
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WOOOOOweee it's THURSDAY. Channeling my inner Chevy. Time for some resurrection. Let's get some HUMINTers/CI off this board. #FJOThursday


We should all be channeling our inner Chevy!

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#84 Posted : Thursday, October 12, 2017 8:06:51 AM(UTC)
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It would be especially useful for us Mission Management people.


Yeah but folks here are talking HUMINT.
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#85 Posted : Thursday, October 12, 2017 9:10:19 AM(UTC)
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It would be especially useful for us Mission Management people.


Yeah but folks here are talking HUMINT.


That's why I said "We...all." For all career fields.

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#86 Posted : Thursday, October 12, 2017 9:19:20 AM(UTC)
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It would be especially useful for us Mission Management people.


Yeah but folks here are talking HUMINT.


That's why I said "We all." For all career fields.


K.
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#87 Posted : Thursday, October 12, 2017 10:09:23 AM(UTC)
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What's the difference between HUMINT and Analyst? Aren't they basically the same thing?
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#88 Posted : Thursday, October 12, 2017 3:51:21 PM(UTC)
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Of the many professions those jobs can be compared to, journalism is the closest to what HUMINT actually does whereas analysts are the newscasters.

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#89 Posted : Thursday, October 12, 2017 5:28:13 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: TMHTE Go to Quoted Post
Of the many professions those jobs can be compared to, journalism is the closest to what HUMINT actually does whereas analysts are the newscasters.


So it's more of a reason/collection position and analyst just present the information?
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#90 Posted : Thursday, October 12, 2017 5:32:24 PM(UTC)
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Of the many professions those jobs can be compared to, journalism is the closest to what HUMINT actually does whereas analysts are the newscasters.


So it's more of a reason/collection position and analyst just present the information?


HumInt collects it, Analysts put it together and verify it to tell a truthful story
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#91 Posted : Thursday, October 12, 2017 5:50:57 PM(UTC)
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Of the many professions those jobs can be compared to, journalism is the closest to what HUMINT actually does whereas analysts are the newscasters.


So it's more of a reason/collection position and analyst just present the information?


Here are descriptions of different DIA career fields from the DIA website, including HUMINT and Analysis:

http://www.dia.mil/Careers/Mission-Areas/
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#92 Posted : Friday, October 13, 2017 6:42:41 PM(UTC)
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Of the many professions those jobs can be compared to, journalism is the closest to what HUMINT actually does whereas analysts are the newscasters.


So it's more of a reason/collection position and analyst just present the information?


Kinda sorta. Basically, HUMINT officers run around setting up meetings with people and talking to them, then go back to their desk and write a report about what was talked about. Other HUMINT officers don't collect but manage collection requirements and liaise with analysts. Analyst officers collate that raw information in conjunction with information from a variety of other sources and produce intelligence for policymakers and operational decision makers. Generally speaking, HUMINT works in the DO and analysts work in the DI. Your specific duties are entirely dependent on your billet in either (i.e. a HUMINTer who collects in war zones every day won't have the same job as a HUMINTer who manages targeting information back in Washington, an analyst who works in the field out of an embassy won't have the same job as an analyst who briefs the SECDEF daily).

It gets even more muddled in the CI world. All CI officers (investigators, operators, collectors, analysts, technical/functional) work in the DO because CI is an inherently operational field. A policymaker who is told by a CI analyst that Country X is engaging in double agent ops against Country Y won't care because there isn't really anything he can do from a policy standpoint about that. A CI collector or investigator will definitely care though, because it may affect our HUMINT ops down the line.


Wow, thanks for the indept explanation! I'm really excited for this career field. Hopefully we all hear from HR sooner since this is the new fiscal year.

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#93 Posted : Saturday, October 14, 2017 7:22:01 AM(UTC)
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Technically, we are allowed to change specialties after one year, assuming we have received a recommendation.

Career specialty doesn't mean that much, it's mainly used to organize who all will be assigned to particular branches.


From the descriptions on the DIA website, some of the MM career specialties seem to be kind of interchangeable. How often do people get a FJO in a MM career specialty other than those that they received a CJO for? How much overlap is there between the work of the different MM career specialties?

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It has also been confirmed that we can apply to change our duty station and career field after the first two years.



What about overseas training and TDY opportunities for people stationed in DC or elsewhere in the US during their two-year probation period?

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#94 Posted : Wednesday, October 18, 2017 7:33:15 AM(UTC)
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Did anyone have a point of contact for HUMINT?
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#95 Posted : Wednesday, October 18, 2017 10:41:32 AM(UTC)
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Did anyone have a point of contact for HUMINT?


HUMINT is the only career field that hasn't been sending me periodic update emails or newsletters about the career field. Has anyone been getting any kind of communication from them?

I've had more communication with the HR folks than them... and that's saying something. Hopefully that's not a bad sign!


Hopefully it is, I've been cleared for 2 months now and was hoping to start in October. Wishful thinking I guess lol
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#96 Posted : Wednesday, October 18, 2017 10:46:43 AM(UTC)
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Has anyone been getting any kind of communication from them?

Almost positive HUMINT doesn’t talk to anyone unless it’s for a bid or they’re on board.
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#97 Posted : Wednesday, October 18, 2017 10:49:53 AM(UTC)
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I've been cleared for 2 months now and was hoping to start in October. Wishful thinking I guess lol


It looks like many of us, regardless of what career field we have, are going to have to get used to staying on the cleared list for months. lol
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#98 Posted : Wednesday, October 18, 2017 2:25:35 PM(UTC)
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Any idea what HUMINT availability looks like at the moment? A lot of us are stuck on the cleared list. Personally, I’m creeping up on Mac’s three month record.
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#99 Posted : Wednesday, October 18, 2017 2:47:45 PM(UTC)
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All I know is that Analysts and HUMINT Officers make up the majority of new hires.

In that sense... you're better off being one of those two than something else.



Is this because there are likely many more Analysis and HUMINT billets than there are billets for other career fields? Or is this because there is less of a shortage of open billets in Analysis and HUMINT than there are in other career fields, such as MM?
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#100 Posted : Wednesday, October 18, 2017 3:01:13 PM(UTC)
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For those who have missed it, once you're cleared, all that matters is your résumé.

Very helpful. Thank you!

Welllll, as a recent grad who put everything on hold to sit on a CJO... I’m gonna need a more comfortable couch.
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