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wrestlingshadows81  
#1 Posted : Tuesday, September 11, 2018 10:27:10 AM(UTC)
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Hello,

So I had been applying for about a month for every and any GS job I was qualified for. I actually turned down one with the Forest service because I did an interview with Fort Hood a few days after the job closed and I was given a tentative offer the next day. I completed the OF-306 and then I negotiated for a GS-11 Step 3. I was told by HR that it could take several weeks to approve however this was on August 28th and they were talking about wanting for me to start on October 1st. I haven't done anything drastic like quit my job yet but I need some time to move and make my way there since they aren't paying for the move. It's been 2 weeks now, how long does it usually take to go from Tentative Offer to Final Offer? Is it all dependent on the agency? In that same time I turned down 2 other GS interviews which I am now regretting however I did interview for another position in Guam that might be making a decision this week. So is it just a slow agency as far as Fort Hood is concerned or is this just par for the course?

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Originally Posted by: wrestlingshadows81 Go to Quoted Post
Hello,

So I had been applying for about a month for every and any GS job I was qualified for. I actually turned down one with the Forest service because I did an interview with Fort Hood a few days after the job closed and I was given a tentative offer the next day. I completed the OF-306 and then I negotiated for a GS-11 Step 3. I was told by HR that it could take several weeks to approve however this was on August 28th and they were talking about wanting for me to start on October 1st. I haven't done anything drastic like quit my job yet but I need some time to move and make my way there since they aren't paying for the move. It's been 2 weeks now, how long does it usually take to go from Tentative Offer to Final Offer? Is it all dependent on the agency? In that same time I turned down 2 other GS interviews which I am now regretting however I did interview for another position in Guam that might be making a decision this week. So is it just a slow agency as far as Fort Hood is concerned or is this just par for the course?
never turn down an interview if you aren't sitting in the seat yet. They can cancel the position at any time prior to that moment, so always be looking for plans b, c, d,....z, etc.

It can take some time between the tentative and final, so always be looking for other positions. Who knows, you may find another position which is a GS12!

You should have voted Cthulu...the greatest of all Evils
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#3 Posted : Tuesday, September 11, 2018 11:07:47 AM(UTC)
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Thanks for the reply. Any idea how long it usually takes or how long it took for you?
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#4 Posted : Tuesday, September 11, 2018 11:49:29 AM(UTC)
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Thanks for the reply. Any idea how long it usually takes or how long it took for you?
Let's see...first position with the USAF...took 3 weeks, but that was because they knew I had other offers on the table already from other agencies and the hiring official pushed it through quickly.

2nd position (USCG) took about a month, and that includes a call from the selecting official asking which one of the two positions did I want (DC or Connecticut)...I took DC, and then I had to move cross country.

Current position (NASA)...less than 2 weeks from interview to sitting in the seat!

You should have voted Cthulu...the greatest of all Evils
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I would add that this month is the end of the Fiscal Year, so doubtless they are swamped with those issues. Maybe they're waiting until the new FY (1 October) to bring you on board. You can always send an email to the HR contact asking.
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I would add that this month is the end of the Fiscal Year, so doubtless they are swamped with those issues. Maybe they're waiting until the new FY (1 October) to bring you on board. You can always send an email to the HR contact asking.



Yeah I tried doing that and the only thing they said was "I don't know but when I find out I will let you know". I emailed the guy who interviewed me who is the same guy I will be working for to ask him if I would be starting October 1 or sometime after October 1 since it sounded like I would be starting October 1. I need to move soon if that's the case, that's the only reason I'm sort of antsy at the moment.
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I would add that this month is the end of the Fiscal Year, so doubtless they are swamped with those issues. Maybe they're waiting until the new FY (1 October) to bring you on board. You can always send an email to the HR contact asking.



Yeah I tried doing that and the only thing they said was "I don't know but when I find out I will let you know". I emailed the guy who interviewed me who is the same guy I will be working for to ask him if I would be starting October 1 or sometime after October 1 since it sounded like I would be starting October 1. I need to move soon if that's the case, that's the only reason I'm sort of antsy at the moment.


Don't resign, move, or make any kind of financial obligation until you get the final offer. If after you get the final offer you don't have enough time to move before the proposed EOD, ask HR to push your EOD back 2 or 4 weeks.

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Well this morning I got this email from the Chief HR person that was sent to me the HR person working with me and the person I will be working for concerning my start date.

"Good morning all, the GC has the memo in his box for signature - so soon!" GC? Garrison Commander I'm assuming?
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Hi

When would you guys alert your references that they may be getting contacted from a federal worker?. After accepting a tentative offer?. At what step in the timeline should I do this

Thanks
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I never let my references know since I work with them. Only one job contacted someone and I had the opportunity to interview for 7 positions over the course of the month. I interviewed for 3 and turned down 3. For those 6 positions only 1 of them contacted a reference and that was one of the 3 that I turned down.
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Hi

When would you guys alert your references that they may be getting contacted from a federal worker?. After accepting a tentative offer?. At what step in the timeline should I do this

Thanks


References are typically contacted after the interview. If you already have the TO, your references have either already been contacted or won't be contacted.
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#12 Posted : Friday, September 14, 2018 5:31:12 PM(UTC)
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I agree - for me references were contacted before the TO.
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What kind of rock star resume do you have to score 7 interviews in one month? lol :)

Good luck with all this stuff...it can be a rollercoaster ride until you're finally in your seat.
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#14 Posted : Sunday, September 16, 2018 6:42:32 AM(UTC)
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What kind of rock star resume do you have to score 7 interviews in one month? lol :)

Good luck with all this stuff...it can be a rollercoaster ride until you're finally in your seat.


Unlikely the resume alone is the source of multiple interviews. More likely the source of multiple interviews is a specific clearance or skill-set or experience or certification. The candidate could be casting a wide net.
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What kind of rock star resume do you have to score 7 interviews in one month? lol :)

Good luck with all this stuff...it can be a rollercoaster ride until you're finally in your seat.


Unlikely the resume alone is the source of multiple interviews. More likely the source of multiple interviews is a specific clearance or skill-set or experience or certification. The candidate could be casting a wide net.


True. It still somewhat seems like an anomaly to get that many interview invites in such a short period of time, given the number of people here on the Soup lamenting about how they've been applying for hundreds of jobs over months, even years, with barely a nibble.

OP did imply he or she was applying to basically anything that moved (lol...just kidding).

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What kind of rock star resume do you have to score 7 interviews in one month? lol :)

Good luck with all this stuff...it can be a rollercoaster ride until you're finally in your seat.


Unlikely the resume alone is the source of multiple interviews. More likely the source of multiple interviews is a specific clearance or skill-set or experience or certification. The candidate could be casting a wide net.


True. It still somewhat seems like an anomaly to get that many interview invites in such a short period of time, given the number of people here on the Soup lamenting about how they've been applying for hundreds of jobs over months, even years, with barely a nibble.

OP did imply he or she was applying to basically anything that moved (lol...just kidding).
I've gotten interviews or job offers for over 90% of the jobs I apply to. Resume is everything. And targeting jobs you are actually qualified for. Fresh out of school with a newly minted graduate degree? Not likely to be interviewed for the GS13-15 positions unless you also have a lot of experience. That said...have a lot of experience, especially at a high level, but can't get an interview for a GS9-11 position? Likely your resume sucks, or you are shooting too low position wise...or both!.

And if you make the interview...tell me what YOU have done (try to avoid using "On this project, we were successful because WE...." instead say "on this project we were successful because I..." The former tells me nothing about your contributions. The latter does.). Be confident, not cocky. There is a difference. Don't harp on about your academic achievements as odds are, most of the people we are interviewing have very similar backgrounds. Tell me something that makes you stand out and better than the others. Telling me about a failure that provided a learning experience you have used since then is good. Telling me you are perfect and only ever successful raises some other questions in the interviewers' minds.

You should have voted Cthulu...the greatest of all Evils
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#17 Posted : Wednesday, September 19, 2018 7:26:48 AM(UTC)
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What kind of rock star resume do you have to score 7 interviews in one month? lol :)

Good luck with all this stuff...it can be a rollercoaster ride until you're finally in your seat.


Basically I work in the GIS field, I searched every day for a month on every GS position GS9 and higher that was available to everyone or available to veterans. I have a Bachelors and a Masters in the field and have Military and private sector/contractor experience. I was trying to get my foot in the door so I was applying anywhere regardless of location.
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I know I have been reading a lot of stories about how difficult it was to even get an interview but not to brag but here has been my journey since about July 24th until now. I applied for about 55 positions and I didn't care where, my intent was to get my foot in the door and damned where it might lead me, if I hate the place after a year I would find another position and it will be easier since I am already a federal employee. When you get the questionnaire for the positions unless you have absolutely no idea what it is they are talking about just put down you are an expert or just short of one for every question then study and research the question if you don't know enough about it so that you are ready for the phone interview. Do this because then the HR folks who put up the job announcement can refer you because they have no clue what it is you do anyways. Then once referred the actual hiring management will look at your resume and decide if they want to interview you. These are my results since July 24th.

Flat out offered a job with the Forest Service in Vallejo, CA ( I originally verbally accepted)
Got interviewed for a position at Fort Hood (I was selected and declined the Vallejo, CA position)
Interviewed for 3 more positions since (the third one is this Friday)
I declined 4 other interviews (I really in hindsight should have interviewed for 3 of them but the fourth one was at a lower grade)
I was in the running for at least one other position but haven't heard anything since.
I also have about another 11 positions I am currently referred for.

I always did a cover letter.
I had a letter of recommendation for positions that took other supporting documentation.

This is literally all I have done to try and find employment for anyone else wondering. I basically have been either offered a position, interview, or have been referred for a 1/3 of my applications.

This is literally the best way to describe how to get an interview based on my strategy.

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