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healthprn  
#1 Posted : Thursday, September 13, 2018 3:15:21 PM(UTC)
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Is there a VA policy stating employees are not able to leave facility for lunch? Been told if employee leaves the premises for the 30 lunch, they are considered AWOL.

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#2 Posted : Thursday, September 13, 2018 3:47:04 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: healthprn Go to Quoted Post
Is there a VA policy stating employees are not able to leave facility for lunch? Been told if employee leaves the premises for the 30 lunch, they are considered AWOL.




how can you be AWOL if you're off the clock?

at any rate, we left the hospital frequently for lunch or dinner so if there was a policy (which i am not aware of) we broke it often.

in situations like this always ask to see the policy.
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#3 Posted : Sunday, September 16, 2018 6:00:32 PM(UTC)

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My guess is someone is confusing the 15 minute paid breaks with the unpaid lunch break. The agency can absolutely require employees to remain on the premises for the paid 15 minute breaks, but the lunch break is a different matter entirely.
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#4 Posted : Sunday, September 16, 2018 7:47:14 PM(UTC)
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We do all understand that this is literally insane, right? That this degree of micromanagement was thrown out sometime around 1955? Fifteen minute check-ins? Thirty minute lunches? This is nuts.
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#5 Posted : Sunday, September 16, 2018 8:05:35 PM(UTC)

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It depends on the type of job--if you're a guard at a post, clerk at a reception desk, etc. those sort of breaks matter.
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#6 Posted : Monday, November 05, 2018 9:51:50 AM(UTC)
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There is no VA agency policy....sounds like a localized VA facility policy. Which I would question...ask to see it in writing.
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#7 Posted : Monday, November 05, 2018 8:30:00 PM(UTC)
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Depending on what the job is.....I have seen people take long lunches. I have always adhered to the 30 minutes, even if nobody cares. My policy was to give time, not steal it. I have seen people fired for time violations, but they were trouble makers at DoD.
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#8 Posted : Tuesday, November 06, 2018 4:35:49 PM(UTC)
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Never heard of such a thing. How can they be AWOL? That does not make sense. The first thing I would do is check the agency's website and look under policies and regulations. I also would call my HR representative and ask. A lot of times, managers and supervisors make up their own policies for subordinates.
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