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res_judicata  
#841 Posted : Monday, June 10, 2019 11:46:55 AM(UTC)
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You won't blank out if you adequately prepare. That being said, prepare.
Phase II is easy and the "stress" doesn't hold a candle compared to the federal government attorney panel interviews I've sat in on.
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#842 Posted : Monday, June 10, 2019 12:11:20 PM(UTC)
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20 STAR examples is overkill. Just find 3-5 very flexible stories that can cover all the major competencies.

It's only an hour long interview.


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Good luck memorizing 20 detailed answers that you're just going to pull out at will during a very stressful interview. The most common theme for the Phase II interview is "blanking out". So I guess you're hoping to overcome that issue by sheer force and quantity of stories.


Have you done Phase II yet?

If so, and you made it work with 3-5 flexible stories, then good on you. But I’d say that’s an exception.

If not, then you’re dishing out bad advice, and somewhat recklessly so.


I found the P2 Panel to be overhyped. It's a very typical interview. The panel members are personable and welcoming, they're not trying to trip you up, just trying to determine if you're the right fit for their organization. If you know you're FBI material, be confident and it'll show. My understanding is the reusing the same events demonstrates lack of life experience, just be wary of that. However, if a particular experience is truly the best example to use for two questions, then use it - I did. If you can breathe, it's easy :)

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#843 Posted : Monday, June 10, 2019 12:35:55 PM(UTC)
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Long time lurker on here.

12/18/18 - app submitted
1/3/19 - passed phase 1
2/6/19 - meet & greet
2/11/19 - competitive rank
2/25/19 - phase 2 writing test
3/18/19 - Phase 2 interview
4/2/19 - passed 2
4/24/19 - PFT
4/27/19 - Conditional offer
5/7/19 - medical appointment
5/8/19 - drug test/fingerprints
5/9/19 - PSI
5/17/19 - Polygraph
??? - Background

I am hoping for the September class. Fingers crossed.

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#844 Posted : Monday, June 10, 2019 1:05:43 PM(UTC)
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20 STAR examples is overkill. Just find 3-5 very flexible stories that can cover all the major competencies.

It's only an hour long interview.


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Good luck memorizing 20 detailed answers that you're just going to pull out at will during a very stressful interview. The most common theme for the Phase II interview is "blanking out". So I guess you're hoping to overcome that issue by sheer force and quantity of stories.


Have you done Phase II yet?

If so, and you made it work with 3-5 flexible stories, then good on you. But I’d say that’s an exception.

If not, then you’re dishing out bad advice, and somewhat recklessly so.


Certainly one of the more bizarre conversations I've seen reading this and prior year threads.. Literally nothing posted by anyone who's done P2, (at least one of) the interview prep services, or FBI published materials support only having 3-5 stories prepared. Looking forward to seeing how this strategy works out though! Also people not supporting only 3-5 stories =/= them saying you NEED 20...

Okay, done arguing this point. I've probably been a little to excited and providing too much of my opinion on this forum, lol
Applied : 12/11/18
P1 invite: 12/19
P1 test: 12/22
Add. Info: 1/2/19
M&G: 2/8
Rank: 3/25
Writing: 4/9
Panel: 6/4
Pass P2: 6/10
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#845 Posted : Monday, June 10, 2019 1:28:44 PM(UTC)
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I've been over here raising my eyebrows like... is this really happening? This conversation is actually happening

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Phase1 09/18
M&G 10/18
Phase2 11/18
PFT 12/18
PSI 01/19
Medical 02/19
Pre-Q PFT 04/19
Psych 05/19
/waiting.../
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#846 Posted : Monday, June 10, 2019 5:12:05 PM(UTC)
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Anyone know how long it takes for your applicant status to update on the website? I didn't make it past phase 2 but my status still shows I'm at phase 2. Last status update shows about an hour before I received an update from HQ telling me I didn't make it. Does it just stay stuck on phase 2 forever or does it eventually close out?
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#847 Posted : Tuesday, June 11, 2019 4:15:04 AM(UTC)
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Anyone know how long it takes for your applicant status to update on the website? I didn't make it past phase 2 but my status still shows I'm at phase 2. Last status update shows about an hour before I received an update from HQ telling me I didn't make it. Does it just stay stuck on phase 2 forever or does it eventually close out?


That application will continue to say phase II. If this was your first time trying, you will be eligible to resubmit an application a year from now. You will have to start from the Meet and Greet and go through the process again. A lot of people fail P2 and pass it upon retesting as it is easier knowing what to expect. To answer your question, it will say P2 on the dashboard going forward.
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#848 Posted : Tuesday, June 11, 2019 5:36:21 AM(UTC)
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Are visible tattoos acceptable at the PFT? I have one on my right shoulder blade and the shirt I'm planning to wear doesn't completely cover it. I think I read somewhere that tattoos should generally be covered up, but not sure if that applies to every part of the process or the more formal events.
App: 11/18
P1: 1/19
M&G: 3/19
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P2 Interview: 6/19 (pass)
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#849 Posted : Tuesday, June 11, 2019 5:57:35 AM(UTC)
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Are visible tattoos acceptable at the PFT? I have one on my right shoulder blade and the shirt I'm planning to wear doesn't completely cover it. I think I read somewhere that tattoos should generally be covered up, but not sure if that applies to every part of the process or the more formal events.


If in your position, I would choose a regular style tshirt and not a tank top. It is an easy adjustment to present better in regards to the desired image.

Phase1 09/18
M&G 10/18
Phase2 11/18
PFT 12/18
PSI 01/19
Medical 02/19
Pre-Q PFT 04/19
Psych 05/19
/waiting.../
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#850 Posted : Tuesday, June 11, 2019 6:03:06 AM(UTC)
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Are visible tattoos acceptable at the PFT? I have one on my right shoulder blade and the shirt I'm planning to wear doesn't completely cover it. I think I read somewhere that tattoos should generally be covered up, but not sure if that applies to every part of the process or the more formal events.


If in your position, I would choose a regular style tshirt and not a tank top. It is an easy adjustment to present better in regards to the desired image.



I've seen 3-4 people with visible tattoos at the various PFT's (one with a full sleeve). Just use judgement on what the tat is and the field office you are at will dictate how strict they are about appearance. I haven't seen any issues or rules against it but my field office tends to be relaxed in atmosphere
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M&G: 11/18
Rank: 11/18
P2 written: 12/18
P2 Panel: 1/19
PFT: 2/19
Poly/PSI: 3/19
Med: 4/19
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#851 Posted : Tuesday, June 11, 2019 7:18:44 AM(UTC)
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Does anyone know how long the average time is before hearing back to schedule the Phase II interview after completing the Phase II written?

Thanks in advanced, and good luck to everyone in the application process!
Applied: 3/22/19
Phase I: 3/30/19
M & G: 4/26/19
Rank Competitive: 5/17/19
Phase II Written: 5/22/19
Phase II Panel: ??
chasing_down_a_dream  
#852 Posted : Tuesday, June 11, 2019 7:51:10 AM(UTC)
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I have been reading this forum and the 2018 forum for about a year now. I am currently in the BI phase (poly and medical completed). I applied in October 2018 and have had first-time Go's on all stations. The best advice that I could give is to be yourself during face-to-face interactions, no matter what don't stop during the PFT and be completely honest about anything you're asked. I can affirm that you don't have to be perfect to get through the process. Just maintain your integrity and display your motivation to become part of what I have always perceived as one of the most prestigious law enforcement agencies in the world.

p.s. If you don't have much patience you should probably go find some. The process is a lengthy one so if you find yourself sitting around with nothing better to do than wonder when you'll get the next email then go for a run or do some pushups and situps, it'll help you out when you take the PFT.

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#853 Posted : Tuesday, June 11, 2019 7:58:54 AM(UTC)
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Anyone know how long it takes for your applicant status to update on the website? I didn't make it past phase 2 but my status still shows I'm at phase 2. Last status update shows about an hour before I received an update from HQ telling me I didn't make it. Does it just stay stuck on phase 2 forever or does it eventually close out?


That application will continue to say phase II. If this was your first time trying, you will be eligible to resubmit an application a year from now. You will have to start from the Meet and Greet and go through the process again. A lot of people fail P2 and pass it upon retesting as it is easier knowing what to expect. To answer your question, it will say P2 on the dashboard going forward.


That's strange seeing as you would always have an "active" application considering I can withdraw it. Does it matter if I withdraw this application then reapply? I'd think they close you out once you fail a section but guess not.
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#854 Posted : Tuesday, June 11, 2019 10:25:42 AM(UTC)
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Anyone know how long it takes for your applicant status to update on the website? I didn't make it past phase 2 but my status still shows I'm at phase 2. Last status update shows about an hour before I received an update from HQ telling me I didn't make it. Does it just stay stuck on phase 2 forever or does it eventually close out?


That application will continue to say phase II. If this was your first time trying, you will be eligible to resubmit an application a year from now. You will have to start from the Meet and Greet and go through the process again. A lot of people fail P2 and pass it upon retesting as it is easier knowing what to expect. To answer your question, it will say P2 on the dashboard going forward.


That's strange seeing as you would always have an "active" application considering I can withdraw it. Does it matter if I withdraw this application then reapply? I'd think they close you out once you fail a section but guess not.


Your application status on FBIjobs is irrelevant as you are flagged in the FBI database as having failed Phase II. Your Applicant Coordinator will probably reach out to you once you are eligible to start the process again (provided that wasn't your second attempt). Don't even worry about your status on FBIjobs until you can reinitiate the process.
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#855 Posted : Tuesday, June 11, 2019 2:15:51 PM(UTC)
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Anyone know how long it takes for your applicant status to update on the website? I didn't make it past phase 2 but my status still shows I'm at phase 2. Last status update shows about an hour before I received an update from HQ telling me I didn't make it. Does it just stay stuck on phase 2 forever or does it eventually close out?


That application will continue to say phase II. If this was your first time trying, you will be eligible to resubmit an application a year from now. You will have to start from the Meet and Greet and go through the process again. A lot of people fail P2 and pass it upon retesting as it is easier knowing what to expect. To answer your question, it will say P2 on the dashboard going forward.


That's strange seeing as you would always have an "active" application considering I can withdraw it. Does it matter if I withdraw this application then reapply? I'd think they close you out once you fail a section but guess not.


Your application status on FBIjobs is irrelevant as you are flagged in the FBI database as having failed Phase II. Your Applicant Coordinator will probably reach out to you once you are eligible to start the process again (provided that wasn't your second attempt). Don't even worry about your status on FBIjobs until you can reinitiate the process.


Yeah they confirmed that when I reached out today. Oh well, I was semi on the fence about it anyway because I just landed a really cushy GS job and didn't really want to move at this point in my life (and take a pay cut). Maybe in a year circumstances will change and I'll throw my hat in the ring again. The only semi-frustrating part is I know the failure rate for PFT's out of my FO is around 50% and I know for sure I would have passed. Wonder how many applicants got pushed through over me but will inevitably never get the job because they're going to fail the PFT. The PFT first process just seems to make more sense to me.

I do also know DEA lifted their one year re-test policy with their new job announcement so perhaps the bureau will follow suit. Wait and see I suppose.

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Anyone know how long it takes for your applicant status to update on the website? I didn't make it past phase 2 but my status still shows I'm at phase 2. Last status update shows about an hour before I received an update from HQ telling me I didn't make it. Does it just stay stuck on phase 2 forever or does it eventually close out?


That application will continue to say phase II. If this was your first time trying, you will be eligible to resubmit an application a year from now. You will have to start from the Meet and Greet and go through the process again. A lot of people fail P2 and pass it upon retesting as it is easier knowing what to expect. To answer your question, it will say P2 on the dashboard going forward.


That's strange seeing as you would always have an "active" application considering I can withdraw it. Does it matter if I withdraw this application then reapply? I'd think they close you out once you fail a section but guess not.


Your application status on FBIjobs is irrelevant as you are flagged in the FBI database as having failed Phase II. Your Applicant Coordinator will probably reach out to you once you are eligible to start the process again (provided that wasn't your second attempt). Don't even worry about your status on FBIjobs until you can reinitiate the process.


Yeah they confirmed that when I reached out today. Oh well, I was semi on the fence about it anyway because I just landed a really cushy GS job and didn't really want to move at this point in my life (and take a pay cut). Maybe in a year circumstances will change and I'll throw my hat in the ring again. The only semi-frustrating part is I know the failure rate for PFT's out of my FO is around 50% and I know for sure I would have passed. Wonder how many applicants got pushed through over me but will inevitably never get the job because they're going to fail the PFT. The PFT first process just seems to make more sense to me.

I do also know DEA lifted their one year re-test policy with their new job announcement so perhaps the bureau will follow suit. Wait and see I suppose.


Whether they do the PFT first or second, it wouldn't have changed your results. They aren't passing a percentage of applicants. There is a score you meet and either you meet it or don't. No one is "pushed through over" anyone.



Phase1 09/18
M&G 10/18
Phase2 11/18
PFT 12/18
PSI 01/19
Medical 02/19
Pre-Q PFT 04/19
Psych 05/19
/waiting.../
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Anyone know how long it takes for your applicant status to update on the website? I didn't make it past phase 2 but my status still shows I'm at phase 2. Last status update shows about an hour before I received an update from HQ telling me I didn't make it. Does it just stay stuck on phase 2 forever or does it eventually close out?


That application will continue to say phase II. If this was your first time trying, you will be eligible to resubmit an application a year from now. You will have to start from the Meet and Greet and go through the process again. A lot of people fail P2 and pass it upon retesting as it is easier knowing what to expect. To answer your question, it will say P2 on the dashboard going forward.


That's strange seeing as you would always have an "active" application considering I can withdraw it. Does it matter if I withdraw this application then reapply? I'd think they close you out once you fail a section but guess not.


Your application status on FBIjobs is irrelevant as you are flagged in the FBI database as having failed Phase II. Your Applicant Coordinator will probably reach out to you once you are eligible to start the process again (provided that wasn't your second attempt). Don't even worry about your status on FBIjobs until you can reinitiate the process.


Yeah they confirmed that when I reached out today. Oh well, I was semi on the fence about it anyway because I just landed a really cushy GS job and didn't really want to move at this point in my life (and take a pay cut). Maybe in a year circumstances will change and I'll throw my hat in the ring again. The only semi-frustrating part is I know the failure rate for PFT's out of my FO is around 50% and I know for sure I would have passed. Wonder how many applicants got pushed through over me but will inevitably never get the job because they're going to fail the PFT. The PFT first process just seems to make more sense to me.

I do also know DEA lifted their one year re-test policy with their new job announcement so perhaps the bureau will follow suit. Wait and see I suppose.


Whether they do the PFT first or second, it wouldn't have changed your results. They aren't passing a percentage of applicants. There is a score you meet and either you meet it or don't. No one is "pushed through over" anyone.





While I'm sure there's a pass or fail score involved they likely pull an average from the candidates and that's how they determine the "pass or fail". If there was a solid bar that everyone had to pass and only 20% of the candidates passed they would never hit their numbers. There is likely a competitive aspect to the candidates tested and the top whatever percentage "pass".

I could be way off but that is the most logical way to do these types of things or else they run the risk of not hitting their numbers.
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Quick question regarding resumes. My AC would like us to submit an updated resume before the meet and greet. Just wondering if anyone incorporated SAR competency stories into their resumes as shown via this Federal Resume site here: https://www.resume-place...fbi-resume-competencies/ (towards the bottom there is an example) I used the FBI template but did not include a header for each competency nor described specific examples of each competency in SAR format. I'm guessing the more specific we can be to demonstrate our value the better but if anyone has any help/input/experience regarding this I would be greatly appreciative.

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So for some reason i got an email saying that i wasn't qualified for the position which doesn't make sense considering i was already invited for phase 1 testing a few months ago after the baltimore FO reviewed my application. i also submitted the same resume so i don't see why after 90 days they say i'm not qualified for the position. I meet all the key requirements for the position. I emailed the SAInfo email address so now i'm just waiting for them to reply back to me.
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Anyone know how long it takes for your applicant status to update on the website? I didn't make it past phase 2 but my status still shows I'm at phase 2. Last status update shows about an hour before I received an update from HQ telling me I didn't make it. Does it just stay stuck on phase 2 forever or does it eventually close out?


That application will continue to say phase II. If this was your first time trying, you will be eligible to resubmit an application a year from now. You will have to start from the Meet and Greet and go through the process again. A lot of people fail P2 and pass it upon retesting as it is easier knowing what to expect. To answer your question, it will say P2 on the dashboard going forward.


That's strange seeing as you would always have an "active" application considering I can withdraw it. Does it matter if I withdraw this application then reapply? I'd think they close you out once you fail a section but guess not.


Your application status on FBIjobs is irrelevant as you are flagged in the FBI database as having failed Phase II. Your Applicant Coordinator will probably reach out to you once you are eligible to start the process again (provided that wasn't your second attempt). Don't even worry about your status on FBIjobs until you can reinitiate the process.


Yeah they confirmed that when I reached out today. Oh well, I was semi on the fence about it anyway because I just landed a really cushy GS job and didn't really want to move at this point in my life (and take a pay cut). Maybe in a year circumstances will change and I'll throw my hat in the ring again. The only semi-frustrating part is I know the failure rate for PFT's out of my FO is around 50% and I know for sure I would have passed. Wonder how many applicants got pushed through over me but will inevitably never get the job because they're going to fail the PFT. The PFT first process just seems to make more sense to me.

I do also know DEA lifted their one year re-test policy with their new job announcement so perhaps the bureau will follow suit. Wait and see I suppose.


Whether they do the PFT first or second, it wouldn't have changed your results. They aren't passing a percentage of applicants. There is a score you meet and either you meet it or don't. No one is "pushed through over" anyone.





While I'm sure there's a pass or fail score involved they likely pull an average from the candidates and that's how they determine the "pass or fail". If there was a solid bar that everyone had to pass and only 20% of the candidates passed they would never hit their numbers. There is likely a competitive aspect to the candidates tested and the top whatever percentage "pass".

I could be way off but that is the most logical way to do these types of things or else they run the risk of not hitting their numbers.


The scoring is what it is and hasn’t changed for many many years. If only 20% of applicants pass the PFT in a year, they won’t revise the scoring to bump that to 50% so they can fill classes. The standard is set.

If, however, year after year only 20% of applicants pass the PFT and they chronically cannot fill classes, then they probably would adjust scaling to fix that.

I’m sure they calibrated the current PFT before approving it such that the 12pts to pass equates to some percentile performance, based on many test runs.
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