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BatDog123  
#1 Posted : Thursday, September 5, 2019 10:56:23 AM(UTC)
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I know many of us are actively trying to figure out the what/when/where and how's of our processing. This may not be important to most, but for my case, I found it extremely helpful and informative.

Most of us are receiving the generic "you are still actively processing, and upon completion of a successful poly/psych, the remainder of your processing can take anywhere from 4 to 6 months" emails. To me, it was unclear what exactly that 4-6 months covered. Was it suitability processing? Was it specifically for after the poly/psych part? What was that covering?

The most frequently used process has applicants doing their subject interviews with the BI's well before the poly/psych. For me, it was the opposite. I finished my Poly/Psych in April, but did not meet with an investigator until July. So when they were mentioning 4-6 months after a successfully reported poly/psych, I was confused about my BI factored into that.

I spoke live with a recruiter yesterday at the IC Virtual Career Fair, and got some clarification. This may not be new information to most, or may just be obvious. Regardless, I wanted to share.

Suitability processing is all 3 components. The polygraph, the psych eval and the background investigation. (Duh, we all knew that!) If you haven't done one component of that, the 4-6 month timeline does not apply to you.

However, that 4-6 month timeline? That is for ADJUDICATION. Meaning after all three components have been successfully reported on. I've also heard it can take up to 3 months for the Psych eval report to be completed. That 3 months is ON TOP OF the 4-6 month timeline. So if the psych was the last component you completed, add 3 months first, and then add another 4-6 months. This is all assuming it does not sit on someones desk for a few weeks before even being assigned an adjudicator. That is another one of those tricky factors that leaves this as an extremely rough estimation.

First, the recruiter emphasized what we all already know. It can be longer or shorter than 4-6 months. Second, the recruiter let me know that they cannot see (or will not tell) an applicant when they are in adjudication. She said that she can only see we are actively processing or cleared. So the recruiters cannot see any movement on the suitability side to let us know where we stand. I've seen some applicants in the NSA Timeline post say they were notified when in adjudication, so I am not sure what the actual truth for this is.

Also, I know contacting a congressman has been thought of by some experiencing slower processing. The other recruiter mentioned that although it does not have a negative impact on your processing, they can only provide the congressman the same information they provide you. They only see whether you are actively processing, or cleared. They made no mention of the success of it speeding up a timeline.


So personally for me, I estimated that my investigator was done his reporting August 1st. Then assuming it was assigned to someone in adjudication already, I added on 4-6 months to bring me to December-February. I'll update this post on when I actually receive next contact, whether that be longer or shorter than this estimation. It will be interesting to see how it plays out based on the rough estimations given.
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#2 Posted : Thursday, September 5, 2019 1:27:28 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: BatDog123 Go to Quoted Post

Suitability processing is all 3 components. The polygraph, the psych eval and the background investigation. (Duh, we all knew that!) If you haven't done one component of that, the 4-6 month timeline does not apply to you.


*Kind of. You can have an active clearance and receive a suitability denial. This does not mean your clearance was revoked or you failed the poly.
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#3 Posted : Friday, September 6, 2019 8:33:56 AM(UTC)
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Thank you for the post and information, BatDog!

I am going to do a breakdown of the users on the timeline thread and what their experience was going from the Poly & Psych to FJO for transparency's sake. As of now, the average time it takes after Poly & Psych to FJO is 111 days (~4 months).

On the timeline post, there have been 12 users who have provided updates with a FJO:
🔘 Rocky402 - 28 days (02/01/2019 to 03/01/2019)
🔘 Armomancer - 30 days (06/01/2019 to 07/01/2019)
🔘 PenguinProgrammer - 30 days (04/01/2019 to 05/01/2019)
🔘 smuckers - 31 days (05/01/2019 to 06/01/2019)
🔘 Porgy - 61 days (05/01/2019 to 07/01/2019)
🔘 LoudSoup - 61 days (03/01/2019 to 05/01/2019)
🔘 Palmetto007 - 89 days (02/01/2019 to 05/01/2019)
🔘 Lefty - 92 days (11/01/2018 to 02/01/2019)
🔘 Mchief - 151 days (12/01/2018 to 05/01/2019)
🔘 justlurking22444 - 153 days (09/01/2018 to 02/01/2019)
🔘 PlatRabbit - 153 days (03/01/2019 to 08/01/2019)
🔘 Broncos55 - 457 days (11/01/2017 to 02/01/2019)

Batdog has been waiting 67 days since meeting with an investigator
I have been waiting 67 days since completing my Psych & Poly

I think we can be very hopeful that we are now halfway through the period that it takes to receive the FJO. I'm just praying that I don't get Broncoed for some reason.
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BatDog123  
#4 Posted : Friday, September 6, 2019 9:06:57 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: That Applicant Go to Quoted Post
Thank you for the post and information, BatDog!

I am going to do a breakdown of the users on the timeline thread and what their experience was going from the Poly & Psych to FJO for transparency's sake. As of now, the average time it takes after Poly & Psych to FJO is 111 days (~4 months).

On the timeline post, there have been 12 users who have provided updates with a FJO:
🔘 Rocky402 - 28 days (02/01/2019 to 03/01/2019)
🔘 Armomancer - 30 days (06/01/2019 to 07/01/2019)
🔘 PenguinProgrammer - 30 days (04/01/2019 to 05/01/2019)
🔘 smuckers - 31 days (05/01/2019 to 06/01/2019)
🔘 Porgy - 61 days (05/01/2019 to 07/01/2019)
🔘 LoudSoup - 61 days (03/01/2019 to 05/01/2019)
🔘 Palmetto007 - 89 days (02/01/2019 to 05/01/2019)
🔘 Lefty - 92 days (11/01/2018 to 02/01/2019)
🔘 Mchief - 151 days (12/01/2018 to 05/01/2019)
🔘 justlurking22444 - 153 days (09/01/2018 to 02/01/2019)
🔘 PlatRabbit - 153 days (03/01/2019 to 08/01/2019)
🔘 Broncos55 - 457 days (11/01/2017 to 02/01/2019)

Batdog has been waiting 67 days since meeting with an investigator
I have been waiting 67 days since completing my Psych & Poly

I think we can be very hopeful that we are now halfway through the period that it takes to receive the FJO. I'm just praying that I don't get Broncoed for some reason.



Yes, poor Broncos55, I was back looking in the NSA 2017 Timeline thread today, and I don't know if I have the same patience they showed.


By the way, ThatApplicant. You're my favorite. I absolutely LOVE these breakdowns you give. I use to have a running spreadsheet, and tried to make a gantt chart once with the information, but failed miserably.
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#5 Posted : Friday, September 6, 2019 7:26:50 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: That Applicant Go to Quoted Post
Thank you for the post and information, BatDog!

I am going to do a breakdown of the users on the timeline thread and what their experience was going from the Poly & Psych to FJO for transparency's sake. As of now, the average time it takes after Poly & Psych to FJO is 111 days (~4 months).

On the timeline post, there have been 12 users who have provided updates with a FJO:
🔘 Rocky402 - 28 days (02/01/2019 to 03/01/2019)
🔘 Armomancer - 30 days (06/01/2019 to 07/01/2019)
🔘 PenguinProgrammer - 30 days (04/01/2019 to 05/01/2019)
🔘 smuckers - 31 days (05/01/2019 to 06/01/2019)
🔘 Porgy - 61 days (05/01/2019 to 07/01/2019)
🔘 LoudSoup - 61 days (03/01/2019 to 05/01/2019)
🔘 Palmetto007 - 89 days (02/01/2019 to 05/01/2019)
🔘 Lefty - 92 days (11/01/2018 to 02/01/2019)
🔘 Mchief - 151 days (12/01/2018 to 05/01/2019)
🔘 justlurking22444 - 153 days (09/01/2018 to 02/01/2019)
🔘 PlatRabbit - 153 days (03/01/2019 to 08/01/2019)
🔘 Broncos55 - 457 days (11/01/2017 to 02/01/2019)

Batdog has been waiting 67 days since meeting with an investigator
I have been waiting 67 days since completing my Psych & Poly

I think we can be very hopeful that we are now halfway through the period that it takes to receive the FJO. I'm just praying that I don't get Broncoed for some reason.


Awesome work dude, putting in the effort while the rest of us mostly just complain absentmindedly. Your math fits with what I've heard, though I've also noticed some folks get polyed very early in the process whereas others do it at the end. Makes me wonder to what extent this affects the "poly to FJO" calculation. Someone with a 30 day turnaround may have already waited two years since CJO while maybe bronco did his right at the beginning, making his sad timeline actually pretty average. Your thoughts? Btw I am obviously just guessing pronouns here.
someoldguy  
#6 Posted : Saturday, September 7, 2019 5:13:14 AM(UTC)
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Don't forget the reports we've seen (though none recently) of Language Analysts taking up to three years... presumable due to foreign contacts and/or extensive foreign travel.
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#7 Posted : Sunday, September 29, 2019 7:24:24 PM(UTC)
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I never get told 4-6 months when I asked HR/recruiters. I always get told 6-9 months. And I've been being told 6-9 more months since I started about 8 months ago.
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#8 Posted : Wednesday, October 16, 2019 7:04:17 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: BatDog123 Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: That Applicant Go to Quoted Post
Thank you for the post and information, BatDog!

I am going to do a breakdown of the users on the timeline thread and what their experience was going from the Poly & Psych to FJO for transparency's sake. As of now, the average time it takes after Poly & Psych to FJO is 111 days (~4 months).

On the timeline post, there have been 12 users who have provided updates with a FJO:
🔘 Rocky402 - 28 days (02/01/2019 to 03/01/2019)
🔘 Armomancer - 30 days (06/01/2019 to 07/01/2019)
🔘 PenguinProgrammer - 30 days (04/01/2019 to 05/01/2019)
🔘 smuckers - 31 days (05/01/2019 to 06/01/2019)
🔘 Porgy - 61 days (05/01/2019 to 07/01/2019)
🔘 LoudSoup - 61 days (03/01/2019 to 05/01/2019)
🔘 Palmetto007 - 89 days (02/01/2019 to 05/01/2019)
🔘 Lefty - 92 days (11/01/2018 to 02/01/2019)
🔘 Mchief - 151 days (12/01/2018 to 05/01/2019)
🔘 justlurking22444 - 153 days (09/01/2018 to 02/01/2019)
🔘 PlatRabbit - 153 days (03/01/2019 to 08/01/2019)
🔘 Broncos55 - 457 days (11/01/2017 to 02/01/2019)

Batdog has been waiting 67 days since meeting with an investigator
I have been waiting 67 days since completing my Psych & Poly

I think we can be very hopeful that we are now halfway through the period that it takes to receive the FJO. I'm just praying that I don't get Broncoed for some reason.



Yes, poor Broncos55, I was back looking in the NSA 2017 Timeline thread today, and I don't know if I have the same patience they showed.


By the way, ThatApplicant. You're my favorite. I absolutely LOVE these breakdowns you give. I use to have a running spreadsheet, and tried to make a gantt chart once with the information, but failed miserably.


I do like this breakdown too, very interesting to see. Also Batdog, please clear your inbox, trying to send a message :-)
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