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Pony Sprinkles  
#441 Posted : Thursday, September 26, 2019 9:23:17 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: clearancedude101 Go to Quoted Post

I'd guess a while. I lived for several years in a not-so-friendly to the US country, and got my CJO back in Feb 2018. They still haven't scheduled my poly/psych. A friend of mine lived in the same place doing the same thing and applied 4 months ahead of me. He just had his poly last month. Our backgrounds are similar enough that I think I can accurately base my timeline off of his. At this rate, both of us are looking at 2 years min from CJO - FJO


Wow, you and your friend must have a patience level of 990 or so! 2 years is a lot of time! I have lived in countries that are very friendly to the US (at least until today). I hope to at least hear from the investigator soon (whatever "soon" means).
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#442 Posted : Sunday, September 29, 2019 7:20:17 PM(UTC)
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Yeah, for that type of position they give a CJO after passing a brutally hard math test. Then they fly you out for the interviews and processing before deciding if they want to give you a FJO.


Out of curiosity, are the interviews equally "brutally hard"?





Mine weren't. The math test was really hard but the interviews (which did include a bit of math testing as well) were far easier. I think they don't want to bother really killing you with math on interviews... if you get to the point of an in-person interview you have to have passed the formal math test anyway, so they know you can do it.
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#443 Posted : Monday, September 30, 2019 6:01:50 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: KLS25 Go to Quoted Post
Process Timeline

01/2019 - Applied
03/2019 - Op Interview
05/2019 - CJO
05/2019 - eQip completed
09/2019 - Psych/Poly (Passed)
09/2019 - Email stating security has approved for clearance
?? - Awaiting FJO

So I never got contacted by a security investigator nor did my references regarding my background investigation, but I have a high active security clearance so that may be the reason. Now waiting for the FJO.


Dude do you already have an IC clearance? That is the craziest processing I've ever heard.

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#444 Posted : Monday, September 30, 2019 8:00:47 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Pajibaem Go to Quoted Post
Greetings,

Long time lurker with a question. When you all had your BI, was it with a contractor you meet up with? Or was it with an agency rep? I ask because for the longest time I thought I hadn't had a BI yet, but the day before I did my poly/psych I was sat down with someone at FANX and went over my SF86. My confusion stems from the military BI is done with contractors and you usually meet at a starbucks or something. Anyway here is my timeline:

11/17: Applied
2/18: Phone interview
3/18: HR screen
4/18: CJO
5/18: SF86 turned in
11/18: additional paperwork sent in
1/19: BI interview/poly/psych (picture chunk from goonies)
4/19-6/19: after emailing recruiter for status I'm told I was missing paperwork and should have received an email 12 weeks prior... no email
7/19: recruiter can't tell me anything, but I am still active in the suitability process.

9/19: Cleared security
9/19: (2weeks later) FJO signed
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#445 Posted : Monday, September 30, 2019 8:17:20 AM(UTC)
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9/19: Cleared security
9/19: (2weeks later) FJO signed


Congratulations Pajibaem! You had a very long process, but so glad to hear that you made it through. I hope to see you around in the near future.
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#446 Posted : Wednesday, October 2, 2019 5:18:45 AM(UTC)
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Longtime lurker.. Process Timeline:

Late 08/18 – Interview for Position 1

Mid 09/18 – Email CJO/ Phone Screen Position 1

Mid 09/18 – Interview for Position 2

Late 09/18 – Email CJO/Phone Screen Position 2

Late 10/18 – CJO Position 1

Late 10/18 – Received and Completed SF86

Late 11/18 – CJO Position 2

Mid 1/19 – Request to update SF86

04/19 – BI Interview

07/19 – Security Interview/Psych/Poly

07/19 – (Same week) Second Poly

Early 08/19 – Third Poly

Early 08/19 – Called recruiter, was told that the average closeout time to EOD for my position was 6-8 weeks.

10/19 – In the Dark  
NoStringsAttached  
#447 Posted : Wednesday, October 2, 2019 5:56:03 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: specialistbite Go to Quoted Post
Called recruiter, was told that the average closeout time to EOD for my position was 6-8 weeks.


Is that average EOD after receiving a FJO? Because, even without knowing what position you are going for, it seems to take closer to 6-8 months (if not longer) for most of the people here.

Edited by user Wednesday, October 2, 2019 5:56:41 AM(UTC)  | Reason: Spelling Error

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#448 Posted : Wednesday, October 2, 2019 6:04:11 AM(UTC)
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Called recruiter, was told that the average closeout time to EOD for my position was 6-8 weeks.


Is that average EOD after receiving a FJO? Because, even without knowing what position you are going for, it seems to take closer to 6-8 months (if not longer) for most of the people here.


It's for IADP, she told me that after the psych/poly portion on average applicants were getting Final Clearances, FJOs, and EODs within that 6-8 week time period.
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#449 Posted : Wednesday, October 2, 2019 6:11:40 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: specialistbite Go to Quoted Post
Called recruiter, was told that the average closeout time to EOD for my position was 6-8 weeks.


Is that average EOD after receiving a FJO? Because, even without knowing what position you are going for, it seems to take closer to 6-8 months (if not longer) for most of the people here.


They offered me all the dates up to the end of the year for indoc and I got to choose. Could have started 10 days after FJO. EOD has to be after a pay period so usually close to 1st or 15th of the month.

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#450 Posted : Wednesday, October 2, 2019 8:24:45 AM(UTC)
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I've been hanging on here for a while and figured it was time to add my timeline to the mix...

9/20/2018 - Submitted application
4/10/2019 - Interview
5/28/2019 - Prescreen phone call
6/4/2019 - Transcripts and resume sent
6/11/2019 - CJO
6/28/2019 - SF-86 submitted
9/13/2019 - BI Interview
9/16-9/20 - Neighbors, friends, and professors contacted by investigators


My BI called yesterday and said investigation is complete and being sent to review. If I don't hear anything in two weeks, then the investigation portion has been completed and sent to the next step. Waiting to be scheduled for Poly & Psych. After waiting 8 months to hear back from my application, the last 3 months have felt pretty quick to go from SF-86 to the investigation portion being (almost/hopefully) complete. The waiting game continues! I appreciate everyone's timeline updates!


Update:

10/19 - Scheduled for poly and psych for the end of the month

Edited by user Wednesday, October 2, 2019 8:33:38 AM(UTC)  | Reason: Date mistake

DynamoOwl  
#451 Posted : Thursday, October 3, 2019 4:48:17 AM(UTC)
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Called recruiter, was told that the average closeout time to EOD for my position was 6-8 weeks.


Is that average EOD after receiving a FJO? Because, even without knowing what position you are going for, it seems to take closer to 6-8 months (if not longer) for most of the people here.


It's for IADP, she told me that after the psych/poly portion on average applicants were getting Final Clearances, FJOs, and EODs within that 6-8 week time period.


Hoping for some good news for you soon! I am also processing for a development program. When you went in for your psych and poly did you have another operational interview? Perhaps with a team or manager? I have seen some others on here mention they had another interview on site when they went for psych and poly.
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#452 Posted : Thursday, October 3, 2019 4:56:17 AM(UTC)
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Called recruiter, was told that the average closeout time to EOD for my position was 6-8 weeks.


Is that average EOD after receiving a FJO? Because, even without knowing what position you are going for, it seems to take closer to 6-8 months (if not longer) for most of the people here.


It's for IADP, she told me that after the psych/poly portion on average applicants were getting Final Clearances, FJOs, and EODs within that 6-8 week time period.


Hoping for some good news for you soon! I am also processing for a development program. When you went in for your psych and poly did you have another operational interview? Perhaps with a team or manager? I have seen some others on here mention they had another interview on site when they went for psych and poly.


It probably won't be another operational interview but a security interview before the psych/poly to go over the SF86 and any questions or issues that they had.
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#453 Posted : Monday, October 7, 2019 6:42:15 AM(UTC)
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Been a lurker ever since I applied and figured I can share my timeline as well.

1/19 - applied for a STEM position
2/19 - Scheduled proficiency exam
3/19 - Took Exam/Passed exam
3/19 - Received CJO
4/19 - Request to fill out SF-86 on e-QUIP/Request for revision once
5/19 - Was contacted by BI
6/19 - Met with investigator
6/19 - Scheduled Operational Interviews/Psych Assessment/Poly
7/19 - Operational Interviews/Psych Assessment/Poly

10/19 - Denial email

This... Sucks... The feeling when you get told they don't want you for your dream job after 9 months of going through the process to get it is not a good one. Good luck to everyone else still waiting to hear back! Hope you have better luck than I did.
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Pony Sprinkles  
#454 Posted : Monday, October 7, 2019 7:10:28 AM(UTC)
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10/19 - Denial email
This... Sucks... The feeling when you get told they don't want you for your dream job after 9 months of going through the process to get it is not a good one. Good luck to everyone else still waiting to hear back! Hope you have better luck than I did.


Awww, this is really bad! So sorry to hear about this. Do they tell you if something went wrong in the interview or poly/psych?

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#455 Posted : Monday, October 7, 2019 7:11:30 AM(UTC)
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Been a lurker ever since I applied and figured I can share my timeline as well.

1/19 - applied for a STEM position
2/19 - Scheduled proficiency exam
3/19 - Took Exam/Passed exam
3/19 - Received CJO
4/19 - Request to fill out SF-86 on e-QUIP/Request for revision once
5/19 - Was contacted by BI
6/19 - Met with investigator
6/19 - Scheduled Operational Interviews/Psych Assessment/Poly
7/19 - Operational Interviews/Psych Assessment/Poly

10/19 - Denial email

This... Sucks... The feeling when you get told they don't want you for your dream job after 9 months of going through the process to get it is not a good one. Good luck to everyone else still waiting to hear back! Hope you have better luck than I did.


Did they give a reason? Don't give up on your dreams!
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#456 Posted : Monday, October 7, 2019 7:23:05 AM(UTC)
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Despite having received a denial, were you able to obtain your clearance?
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#457 Posted : Monday, October 7, 2019 7:41:37 AM(UTC)
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10/19 - Denial email
This... Sucks... The feeling when you get told they don't want you for your dream job after 9 months of going through the process to get it is not a good one. Good luck to everyone else still waiting to hear back! Hope you have better luck than I did.


Awww, this is really bad! So sorry to hear about this. Do they tell you if something went wrong in the interview or poly/psych?

It was the interview side of things.

Originally Posted by: Holly Go to Quoted Post

Did they give a reason? Don't give up on your dreams!

No, I'm going to email and ask for more info. Thanks!

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Despite having received a denial, were you able to obtain your clearance?

Still in processing for the clearance.
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#458 Posted : Monday, October 7, 2019 8:55:08 AM(UTC)
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Despite having received a denial, were you able to obtain your clearance?


How would this even work? If they are no longer being considered for the position, there is no reason with the clearance process.
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#459 Posted : Monday, October 7, 2019 9:43:08 AM(UTC)
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Despite having received a denial, were you able to obtain your clearance?


How would this even work? If they are no longer being considered for the position, there is no reason with the clearance process.


Somewhere on the NSA forums I saw cases where some people were able to obtain clearance but not be given an FJO. I don’t exactly remember which posts exactly
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#460 Posted : Monday, October 7, 2019 9:48:45 AM(UTC)
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Despite having received a denial, were you able to obtain your clearance?


How would this even work? If they are no longer being considered for the position, there is no reason with the clearance process.

I was told that I will still be in processing as they are willing to share my application package with other departments.
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