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Originally Posted by: buckaneers  One doesn't really pass or fail a poly, it's a tool that measures physiological responses to questions and supplements personnel security and investigations. Yes but if they don't like your physiological responses then you fail. The worst part is when they take you out into the hallway and they all yell "LIAR, LIAR, PANTS ON FIRE!!!"  Actually that is the old kind with the pens, I think the new ones are all digital. |
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Originally Posted by: thebigone2087 For those that took the poly, how soon were you notified if you “passed” or “failed”? If your polygraph operator doesn't give you a passing score, you'll know it before you leave the room because you'll be treated to a post-test interrogation. This is standard procedure for federal agencies with polygraph programs, including NSA. In general, polygraph operators won't tell you that you passed. They'll leave you uncertain about the outcome. But if you don't get a post-test interrogation, that is a very good sign. |
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Originally Posted by: buckaneers One doesn't really pass or fail a poly, it's a tool that measures physiological responses to questions and supplements personnel security and investigations. Actually, one does really pass or fail a polygraph. If you fail, you get blackballed. In polygraph screening, the failing score is called "SR" for "significant reaction." In criminal investigations, it's called "DI" for "deception indicated." But whatever buzzword the federal polygraph community chooses to attach to it, it's still tantamount to "failing." |
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I was told that I passed as soon as the test was done.
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Update to my processing timeline for IADP:
10/2017 - Applied
10/2018 - Operational Interview
11/2018 - CJO
11/2018 - e-QIP
05/2019 - Met with background investigator
05/2019 - References contacted by background investigator
07/2019 - Psych & Poly #1 (Inconclusive)
07/2019 - Poly #2 (Pass)
10/2019 - FJO
01/2020 - EOD
I made it through! Planning on moving just in time for Christmas so I can be with my family for the holidays. It does look like I increased the average times for several of the segments of the process since it has been almost exactly 2 years since I applied to the NSA.
For background, I applied while still in college and have international travel to Canada, Mexico, a US ally (1 month), and a nation critical of the US (3 days). Can't be more specific on the last two without doxxing myself, but I made sure to keep a small journal of everywhere I went and everyone I had come into contact with that I was able to share with the investigator. I have no continuing contact with any foreign nationals and only limited use of marijuana 2+ years ago.
I'll stick around as I finish out my current job, so feel free to ask questions and I'll try to answer the best that I can!
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That Applicant, I'm so happy to hear this! I'm hoping to hear from BatDog123 soon. I've been following your posts for sometime and felt like I was waiting right there with you both!
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Originally Posted by: 0x41 That Applicant, I'm so happy to hear this! I'm hoping to hear from BatDog123 soon. I've been following your posts for sometime and felt like I was waiting right there with you both! Thank you for the encouragement, I hope to hear something soon also. I'm not going for a development program, but another position. I check in monthly, and am just trying to be patient. I really do enjoy seeing everyone succeed at their dreams though and get their FJO's! It's almost as exciting for me as my own processing. Definitely rooting you guys on.
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Originally Posted by: rkf4ever Just trying to keep my timeline in rotation, nothing new really:
July 2, 2018 – Applied
July 11, 2018 – Request for Transcripts
August 17, 2018 – Email to schedule interview
September 18, 2018 – Onsite Interview
November 2, 2018 – CJO
November 6, 2018 – SF86 received
November 13, 2018 – SF86 Submitted
November 21, 2018 – HR forms sent to recruiter
December 3, 2018 – Credit Pulled
January 25, 2019 – Request for additional credit report info
February 17, 2019 – Contacted by 1st BI
February 22, 2019 – Contacted by 2nd BI
February 25, 2019 – Subject Interview
March 5, 2019 – Poly scheduled
March 12, 2019 – Psych scheduled
March 27, 2019 – Polygraph (passed)
April 19, 2019 – Psych Evaluation
April 26, 2019 – Request for additional info
May 13, 2019 – Acknowledgment of receipt of additional info
May 14, 2019 – Stated no additional info needed
June 5, 2019 – Received suitability processing email stating that I am active in this process and no precise timeline can be given for remainder of process.
Somewhere in here also (in May/June) is my recruiter telling me 4 to 5 months minimum to hear something from her. Update: 10/25/19 - informed through email that my processing had been discontinued It was nice to chat with you guys, but I guess I no longer need to be in this forum. Best of luck to those still in the running!!
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Originally Posted by: rkf4ever Originally Posted by: rkf4ever Just trying to keep my timeline in rotation, nothing new really:
July 2, 2018 – Applied
July 11, 2018 – Request for Transcripts
August 17, 2018 – Email to schedule interview
September 18, 2018 – Onsite Interview
November 2, 2018 – CJO
November 6, 2018 – SF86 received
November 13, 2018 – SF86 Submitted
November 21, 2018 – HR forms sent to recruiter
December 3, 2018 – Credit Pulled
January 25, 2019 – Request for additional credit report info
February 17, 2019 – Contacted by 1st BI
February 22, 2019 – Contacted by 2nd BI
February 25, 2019 – Subject Interview
March 5, 2019 – Poly scheduled
March 12, 2019 – Psych scheduled
March 27, 2019 – Polygraph (passed)
April 19, 2019 – Psych Evaluation
April 26, 2019 – Request for additional info
May 13, 2019 – Acknowledgment of receipt of additional info
May 14, 2019 – Stated no additional info needed
June 5, 2019 – Received suitability processing email stating that I am active in this process and no precise timeline can be given for remainder of process.
Somewhere in here also (in May/June) is my recruiter telling me 4 to 5 months minimum to hear something from her. Update: 10/25/19 - informed through email that my processing had been discontinued It was nice to chat with you guys, but I guess I no longer need to be in this forum. Best of luck to those still in the running!! That is so sad to hear! Did they give you a reason?
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Originally Posted by: thebigone2087 Originally Posted by: rkf4ever Originally Posted by: rkf4ever Just trying to keep my timeline in rotation, nothing new really:
July 2, 2018 – Applied
July 11, 2018 – Request for Transcripts
August 17, 2018 – Email to schedule interview
September 18, 2018 – Onsite Interview
November 2, 2018 – CJO
November 6, 2018 – SF86 received
November 13, 2018 – SF86 Submitted
November 21, 2018 – HR forms sent to recruiter
December 3, 2018 – Credit Pulled
January 25, 2019 – Request for additional credit report info
February 17, 2019 – Contacted by 1st BI
February 22, 2019 – Contacted by 2nd BI
February 25, 2019 – Subject Interview
March 5, 2019 – Poly scheduled
March 12, 2019 – Psych scheduled
March 27, 2019 – Polygraph (passed)
April 19, 2019 – Psych Evaluation
April 26, 2019 – Request for additional info
May 13, 2019 – Acknowledgment of receipt of additional info
May 14, 2019 – Stated no additional info needed
June 5, 2019 – Received suitability processing email stating that I am active in this process and no precise timeline can be given for remainder of process.
Somewhere in here also (in May/June) is my recruiter telling me 4 to 5 months minimum to hear something from her. Update: 10/25/19 - informed through email that my processing had been discontinued It was nice to chat with you guys, but I guess I no longer need to be in this forum. Best of luck to those still in the running!! That is so sad to hear! Did they give you a reason? No they didn't. They mailed me a letter which included an address that I need to write to for more information. I'll be doing that this week. So even after they drop you you still can't get a straight answer geez lol
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Originally Posted by: rkf4ever Originally Posted by: thebigone2087 Originally Posted by: rkf4ever Originally Posted by: rkf4ever Just trying to keep my timeline in rotation, nothing new really:
July 2, 2018 – Applied
July 11, 2018 – Request for Transcripts
August 17, 2018 – Email to schedule interview
September 18, 2018 – Onsite Interview
November 2, 2018 – CJO
November 6, 2018 – SF86 received
November 13, 2018 – SF86 Submitted
November 21, 2018 – HR forms sent to recruiter
December 3, 2018 – Credit Pulled
January 25, 2019 – Request for additional credit report info
February 17, 2019 – Contacted by 1st BI
February 22, 2019 – Contacted by 2nd BI
February 25, 2019 – Subject Interview
March 5, 2019 – Poly scheduled
March 12, 2019 – Psych scheduled
March 27, 2019 – Polygraph (passed)
April 19, 2019 – Psych Evaluation
April 26, 2019 – Request for additional info
May 13, 2019 – Acknowledgment of receipt of additional info
May 14, 2019 – Stated no additional info needed
June 5, 2019 – Received suitability processing email stating that I am active in this process and no precise timeline can be given for remainder of process.
Somewhere in here also (in May/June) is my recruiter telling me 4 to 5 months minimum to hear something from her. Update: 10/25/19 - informed through email that my processing had been discontinued It was nice to chat with you guys, but I guess I no longer need to be in this forum. Best of luck to those still in the running!! That is so sad to hear! Did they give you a reason? No they didn't. They mailed me a letter which included an address that I need to write to for more information. I'll be doing that this week. So even after they drop you you still can't get a straight answer geez lol What additional info did they request?
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Originally Posted by: thebigone2087 Originally Posted by: thebigone2087 Originally Posted by: thebigone2087 NSA timeline
Applied 1/15/19
Phone interview request 1/22/19
Phone interview 1/29/19
Operational interview scheduled 2/27/19
Operational interview 3/29/19
CJO call received 4/12/19
CJO paperwork received 4/19/19
eQIP received 6/21/19
eQIP submitted 6/22/19
Request for more information/ info submitted 6/24/19
Soft Credit Check 6/27/19
8/1/19 - Contacted by BI to schedule interview 8/2/19 - Scheduled interview with BI 9/23/19 - email from recruiter, poly/psych scheduled for end of October 10/29 - psych completed, second poly scheduled for 11/5.
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It's been a while since I applied, so I don't remember exactly when.
Here's my timeline:
12/2018 Phone interview for Software Engineer position
1/2019 Received notification from another recruiter regarding the Cyber Capabilities Specialist position
2/2019 Online interview for second position
2/2019 Phone calls from both recruiters regarding CJO
2/2019 Transcript sent
3/2/2019 Signed documents to give NSA permission to obtain info
3/6/2019 Written CJO for both positions
3/8/2019 Submitted SF-86
3/11/2019 Request to revise SF-86
3/11/2019 Revised and sent SF-86
I haven't heard anything from them since then. Is it typical to wait for this long? I'm worried that my hospitalizations during college (first time was voluntary, second time it was not; college was a rough time) may hinder my chances.
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Originally Posted by: SomeCandidate It's been a while since I applied, so I don't remember exactly when.
Here's my timeline:
12/2018 Phone interview for Software Engineer position
1/2019 Received notification from another recruiter regarding the Cyber Capabilities Specialist position
2/2019 Online interview for second position
2/2019 Phone calls from both recruiters regarding CJO
2/2019 Transcript sent
3/2/2019 Signed documents to give NSA permission to obtain info
3/6/2019 Written CJO for both positions
3/8/2019 Submitted SF-86
3/11/2019 Request to revise SF-86
3/11/2019 Revised and sent SF-86
I haven't heard anything from them since then. Is it typical to wait for this long? I'm worried that my hospitalizations during college (first time was voluntary, second time it was not; college was a rough time) may hinder my chances. Investigators are probably talking to all of those college folks most likely. Also, depends on the area you live in. In may have a heavy case load.
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Been lurking this thread for a few months now, so I figured I'd throw my timeline out there!
1/2019 - Applied
3/2019 - Recruiter requested transcripts
3/2019 - Operational Interview
4/2019 - CJO, received eqip
5/2019 - Completed Security Paperwork (after a few back and forths...)
7/2019 - Interview with Investigator
7/2019-8/2019 - References contacted
10/2019 - Poly/psych scheduled for mid-November
Hoping for the best for everyone!
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Originally Posted by: That Applicant Update to my processing timeline for IADP:
10/2017 - Applied
10/2018 - Operational Interview
11/2018 - CJO
11/2018 - e-QIP
05/2019 - Met with background investigator
05/2019 - References contacted by background investigator
07/2019 - Psych & Poly #1 (Inconclusive)
07/2019 - Poly #2 (Pass)
10/2019 - FJO
01/2020 - EOD
I made it through! Planning on moving just in time for Christmas so I can be with my family for the holidays. It does look like I increased the average times for several of the segments of the process since it has been almost exactly 2 years since I applied to the NSA.
For background, I applied while still in college and have international travel to Canada, Mexico, a US ally (1 month), and a nation critical of the US (3 days). Can't be more specific on the last two without doxxing myself, but I made sure to keep a small journal of everywhere I went and everyone I had come into contact with that I was able to share with the investigator. I have no continuing contact with any foreign nationals and only limited use of marijuana 2+ years ago.
I'll stick around as I finish out my current job, so feel free to ask questions and I'll try to answer the best that I can! Congrats! I am on a similar timeline for the application, CJO, BI, Poly/Psych... hopefully I hear back on and receive a FJO soon, I am definitely getting antsy. Hope to see you on the other side!
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Originally Posted by: cornhusker18 Hi everyone, I’ve been following this thread since about October 18 and just registered and figured I’d give my timeline.
8/18 Applied
9/18 interview
10/18 CJO
11/18 Submitted sf86
1/19 requested clarification for sf86
2/19 soft credit pull
5/19 met with BI and and references contacted
I recently got an email come in from recruitment office saying I’m in the suitability process so they give me any timeline. Haven’t even scheduled poly/psych. I’m young but have a lot of foreign travel in the past 5 years so I sure that’s holding me up a little bit.
Updated: 8/18 Applied 9/18 interview 10/18 CJO 11/18 Submitted sf86 1/19 requested clarification for sf86 2/19 soft credit pull 5/19 met with BI and and references contacted 7/19 psych and poly (failed first poly) 7/19 second poly passed 9/19 phone call from recruitment office stating I’m still in processing 11/2/19 second phone call from recruitment office saying I’m still in processing It’s nice for the recruitment office to call me to let me know I’m still active in the process, but everytime I just it to be to let me know I have an FJO waiting for me. In month 4 after poly so I feel like it’ll be soon I hear something cause I’m seen some people average 5 months after poly to hear something.
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Originally Posted by: That Applicant Update to my processing timeline for IADP:
10/2017 - Applied
10/2018 - Operational Interview
11/2018 - CJO
11/2018 - e-QIP
05/2019 - Met with background investigator
05/2019 - References contacted by background investigator
07/2019 - Psych & Poly #1 (Inconclusive)
07/2019 - Poly #2 (Pass)
10/2019 - FJO
01/2020 - EOD
I made it through! Planning on moving just in time for Christmas so I can be with my family for the holidays. It does look like I increased the average times for several of the segments of the process since it has been almost exactly 2 years since I applied to the NSA.
For background, I applied while still in college and have international travel to Canada, Mexico, a US ally (1 month), and a nation critical of the US (3 days). Can't be more specific on the last two without doxxing myself, but I made sure to keep a small journal of everywhere I went and everyone I had come into contact with that I was able to share with the investigator. I have no continuing contact with any foreign nationals and only limited use of marijuana 2+ years ago.
I'll stick around as I finish out my current job, so feel free to ask questions and I'll try to answer the best that I can! Congratulations!! Hoping I hear something soon. Minus the year at the beginning of your process, my timeline is pretty much the same as yours.
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Originally Posted by: BatDog123
09/18 - Applied
09/18 - Resume/Transcripts requested
10/18 - Recruiter Introduction/Scheduling of Interview
11/18 - Interviewed
12/18 - CJO
12/18 - eQIP submitted
01/19 - Credit Pulled
04/19 - Poly (Passed)
04/19 - Psych Completed, Documents Requested
05/19 - Requested documents returned
07/19 - BI Subject Interview face to face, with current employer also.
08/19 - Recruiter notified me that the remainder of my processing could take 4-6 months average, voicemail to tell me I am still processing
10/19 - 3rd new recruiter, no update.
Since applying: 427 days Since Interview: 360 days Since CJO: 335 days Since SF86 submission: 319 days Just refreshing my timeline. Although my poly was 6 months ago, my subject interview was only 3 months ago. So if the 4 to 6 month range given by recruiters applies, I expect to hear something December - February. I check in about once a month. Other than a new recruiter, its been quiet. Keeping my fingers crossed.
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Originally Posted by: BatDog123 Originally Posted by: BatDog123
09/18 - Applied
09/18 - Resume/Transcripts requested
10/18 - Recruiter Introduction/Scheduling of Interview
11/18 - Interviewed
12/18 - CJO
12/18 - eQIP submitted
01/19 - Credit Pulled
04/19 - Poly (Passed)
04/19 - Psych Completed, Documents Requested
05/19 - Requested documents returned
07/19 - BI Subject Interview face to face, with current employer also.
08/19 - Recruiter notified me that the remainder of my processing could take 4-6 months average, voicemail to tell me I am still processing
10/19 - 3rd new recruiter, no update.
Since applying: 427 days Since Interview: 360 days Since CJO: 335 days Since SF86 submission: 319 days Just refreshing my timeline. Although my poly was 6 months ago, my subject interview was only 3 months ago. So if the 4 to 6 month range given by recruiters applies, I expect to hear something December - February. I check in about once a month. Other than a new recruiter, its been quiet. Keeping my fingers crossed. Are you applying for a patience related position because you're excelling?
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