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emaichbe03  
#1881 Posted : Monday, January 6, 2020 6:44:31 PM(UTC)

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That may be true during probation but not after. Could be wrong tho
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Originally Posted by: LS7TransAm Go to Quoted Post
There are annual performance reviews. From what I’ve read there are three tiers. You are not entitled to advance a pay grade annually unless your performance justifies said advancement.


Could you clarify is to what you mean by tiers?
App 8/30/18
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P2 1/29/19 Pass
P3 4/8/19
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CJO 4/20
PSI 6/9/19
Poly 6/13
Poly Pass 6/17
FO 12/12
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#1883 Posted : Tuesday, January 7, 2020 10:23:54 AM(UTC)
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Tiers. As in rating.

Completely guessing what each tier is referred to. But something like:

1 Below average
2 Successful
3 Exceptional

Where, your rating/tier impacts the likelihood of promotion / advancement

Also, all SAs are considered probationary for their first two years. I’d assume you’re highly critiqued and monitored during those years. Essentially a rookie.

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#1884 Posted : Tuesday, January 7, 2020 5:04:33 PM(UTC)
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Hey all, I spoke to the Oracle and he said the current count for january is 115-120 so far and they are looking for about 60-65 more (this is for agents, not sure what the numbers are for IA's).
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#1885 Posted : Tuesday, January 7, 2020 8:36:59 PM(UTC)
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What date does the January class actually start? This seems crazy if it's true, as we're already a solid week into January.
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#1886 Posted : Wednesday, January 8, 2020 8:41:08 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: WaitingIsTheHardestPart Go to Quoted Post
What date does the January class actually start? This seems crazy if it's true, as we're already a solid week into January.


The 20th.
App 8/30/18
P1 12/18
P2 12/18
P2 1/29/19 Pass
P3 4/8/19
P3 4/15/19 Pass
CJO 4/20
PSI 6/9/19
Poly 6/13
Poly Pass 6/17
FO 12/12
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#1887 Posted : Wednesday, January 8, 2020 8:35:05 PM(UTC)
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Hi all, I have my PSI scheduled for next week. I understand it will take a few hours. What is recommended dress code for this? I've worn suit to M&G and Phase II but don't know how formal this is. Thanks in advance.
App 6/24/18
P1 8/21/18
M&G 11/28/18
P2 W 2/28/19
P2 I 10/7/19
PFT 11/22/19
CO 11/26/19
PSI 1/17/20
Med 2/7/20
Poly 3/13/20


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#1888 Posted : Thursday, January 9, 2020 4:34:06 AM(UTC)
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Every step is an interview. Where a suit to everything except the pft and medical.
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#1889 Posted : Thursday, January 9, 2020 5:44:20 AM(UTC)
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Wait.

You wore a suit to a testing center for the Phase II exam where it clearly states in the instructions not to wear a jacket in to the exam? It also suggests to wear comfortable clothes.

And now you’re curious about what to wear to the Phase 2 interview?

What in the world? Strange thought process on your end. Read your emails completely. The emails clearly explain this.

And the P2I won’t take “a few hours”. It states it will take “about an hour”. SMH.

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#1890 Posted : Thursday, January 9, 2020 6:41:19 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: LS7TransAm Go to Quoted Post
Wait.

You wore a suit to a testing center for the Phase II exam where it clearly states in the instructions not to wear a jacket in to the exam? It also suggests to wear comfortable clothes.

And now you’re curious about what to wear to the Phase 2 interview?

What in the world? Strange thought process on your end. Read your emails completely. The emails clearly explain this.

And the P2I won’t take “a few hours”. It states it will take “about an hour”. SMH.




Did you even read his post? He's doing his PSI, personal security interview, aka the interview before the Poly and background. He's already done all of P2.

@mugatu:. Always wear a suit to interviews, meetings, etc. It's better to be over dressed and then downgrade then give off a bad first impression. As soon as I got into the room, the interviewer invited me to get comfortable and take off my suit jacket because the PSI can take a few hours.

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App: 01/16
P1: 02/06
M&G: 3/12
P2: 3/22
P2 Panel: 5/6
PFT: 5/23
COE: 5/24
Med: 6/13
PSI: 6/25
Poly: 7/2
PreQ PFT 2/28/20
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GeorgeofTheJungle  
#1891 Posted : Thursday, January 9, 2020 5:11:53 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: mugatu300 Go to Quoted Post
Hi all, I have my PSI scheduled for next week. I understand it will take a few hours. What is recommended dress code for this? I've worn suit to M&G and Phase II but don't know how formal this is. Thanks in advance.


Anytime I knew I was meeting agents face to face I wore a suit. The only exception I made was during my poly I didn't wear a tie.I figured I would have all these wires strapped to me so I wanted to feel comfortable. I ended up passing so I guess that was a good move. I also removed my jacket pretty much every time as every step is lengthy.

Originally Posted by: LS7TransAm Go to Quoted Post
Wait.

You wore a suit to a testing center for the Phase II exam where it clearly states in the instructions not to wear a jacket in to the exam? It also suggests to wear comfortable clothes.

And now you’re curious about what to wear to the Phase 2 interview?

What in the world? Strange thought process on your end. Read your emails completely. The emails clearly explain this.

And the P2I won’t take “a few hours”. It states it will take “about an hour”. SMH.


My PSI definitely took a few hours.

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App 8/30/18
P1 12/18
P2 12/18
P2 1/29/19 Pass
P3 4/8/19
P3 4/15/19 Pass
CJO 4/20
PSI 6/9/19
Poly 6/13
Poly Pass 6/17
FO 12/12
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#1892 Posted : Thursday, January 9, 2020 7:48:00 PM(UTC)
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Anyone with a meet and greet around Dec 3rd heard anything back about their ranking? I'm still waiting for an email.
Apply: 10/16/19
Phase 1: 11/1/19
Add info: 11/2/19
M&G: 12/3/19
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lnc95  
#1893 Posted : Monday, January 13, 2020 11:32:30 AM(UTC)
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Hi All,

If anyone is willing to share, how they were able to achieve passing results for the PFT I would greatly appreciate it. I really need to get my push up and running game up, but I'd welcome any other tips and tricks.
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#1894 Posted : Monday, January 13, 2020 12:17:26 PM(UTC)
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Here's a push-up resource. It's not based on the PFT per se, as it doesn't include a timing component, but it does a good job providing a framework to assess, improve, and track your progress. Disclosure - I don't use this program myself, but I know many who have and enjoyed it (enjoyed it in retrospect, rather... no out outright enjoys push-ups for fun).

https://hundredpushups.com/index.html

I believe there are versions for sit-ups and pull-ups out there as well.

Cheers,
GhostyBoy

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#1895 Posted : Monday, January 13, 2020 1:39:40 PM(UTC)

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Hi All,

If anyone is willing to share, how they were able to achieve passing results for the PFT I would greatly appreciate it. I really need to get my push up and running game up, but I'd welcome any other tips and tricks.


Height, weight, age, sex, prior training history (including sports), current PFT scores (including reps and time), current routine?

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Originally Posted by: GhostyBoy Go to Quoted Post
Here's a push-up resource. It's not based on the PFT per se, as it doesn't include a timing component, but it does a good job providing a framework to assess, improve, and track your progress. Disclosure - I don't use this program myself, but I know many who have and enjoyed it (enjoyed it in retrospect, rather... no out outright enjoys push-ups for fun).

https://hundredpushups.com/index.html

I believe there are versions for sit-ups and pull-ups out there as well.

Cheers,
GhostyBoy




Thank you!!
lnc95  
#1897 Posted : Tuesday, January 14, 2020 3:07:21 AM(UTC)
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Hi All,

If anyone is willing to share, how they were able to achieve passing results for the PFT I would greatly appreciate it. I really need to get my push up and running game up, but I'd welcome any other tips and tricks.


Height, weight, age, sex, prior training history (including sports), current PFT scores (including reps and time), current routine?




Height: about 5’7
Weight: coasting at 170lb
Age: 24
Gender: Female
History: currently I attend group bootcamp 3x a week. We work on everything but running 😂😂 I take a HIIT cardio class 2x a week. I’ve also played sports when I was younger.
Current PFT: when I took the practice I remember getting a 6. With the long mile and pushups failed
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First off you should drop some pounds. That will help with everything.

Second, you potentially lack the upper body strength to get through the push ups. The remedy to that is to start weight training. Your best bet is probably to bench press with a barbell 2-3x per week, 3 to 5 sets of 5 reps. Pick a weight that you can do all your prescribed reps and sets. When the weight is feeling lighter, add 5 lbs.

As for running, the remedy is running. Start with a couch to 5k program and progress from there. You should be running at least 4 days per week and most of those runs should be more than 30 minutes. HIIT isn’t going to do it for you.

If this is all new to you, you may be best off finding a personal trainer. That could be a grab bag though, as there are lots of bad personal trainers out there.

I don’t like CrossFit, but it may be the safest and surest option to get you weightlifting under proper guidance. The caveat there is most CrossFitters don’t run much (as a part of the prescribed WODs), so you will still have to supplement with 4 days of running per week.
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#1899 Posted : Tuesday, January 14, 2020 8:31:27 AM(UTC)
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Hi All,

If anyone is willing to share, how they were able to achieve passing results for the PFT I would greatly appreciate it. I really need to get my push up and running game up, but I'd welcome any other tips and tricks.


Height, weight, age, sex, prior training history (including sports), current PFT scores (including reps and time), current routine?




Height: about 5’7
Weight: coasting at 170lb
Age: 24
Gender: Female
History: currently I attend group bootcamp 3x a week. We work on everything but running 😂😂 I take a HIIT cardio class 2x a week. I’ve also played sports when I was younger.
Current PFT: when I took the practice I remember getting a 6. With the long mile and pushups failed


Imma echo what the other guy said, lose some weight. I have dropped 20lbs since January and everything about the PFT is now easier. I’m also fairly fit now. I did this:

Day 1: Long steady state run
Day 2: front squat and bench + PFT body weight exercises (push up, lunges, crunches or planks and pull ups)
Day 3: LSS
Day 4: Repeat day 2
Day 5: Tempo run, usually a 5k as fast as possible
Day 6: LSS + PFT body weight exercises
Day 7: rest

In April I failed the 1.5mile with 11 points. In December I passed with 20 points.

I use a program called Tactical Barbell. Highly recommend.
App: 11/21/18
P1: 12/10/18
M&G: 1/2019
Rank: 1/31
P2: 3/2019
PFT (F): 4/2019
PFT (P): 12/2019
PSI: 1/2020
Poly: 1/2020
kiros  
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Hi everyone, long time lurker first time contributor. I have received a CJO, processing through the background phases now.

Regarding the PFT, there's no real magic or tricks. I started training for my PFT about a month after my application, so maybe about 3 months lead-up time. Prior to that I had been regularly weightlifting, focused on squats, deadlifts, bench, and overhead press mainly with around 5 reps per set, as well as martial arts a couple times a week. I passed the PFT with 16 points.

Working out gave me a better base but didn't help me pass the fitness test. Others have said it, but if you want to beat the fitness test you have to train for the fitness test. My two cents for each event:

Sit-ups: This should be your money maker, but you should be training FOR THE TASK. The sit-ups are not the same as a military-style sit up. Know the scoring criteria and train for it. I started out being able to knock out around 30-35 in a minute, then trained for the test and was able to do over 50. Since this was one of my best events I would try to knock out 3 sets of 50 every other day but wasn't too stressed over it.

Sprint: Sprint is tough. It's tough to train for and know where you are, because starting the timer and looking at it after you finish can put you off. I got 3 points in this, but went into it genuinely thinking I was going to only pass by .01 seconds. You just have to train for it, but don't overdo it.

Push-ups: This is all about endurance. Bench press is not a replacement for this, and I actually dropped weightlifting/bench all together to focus on this and the other tasks. I started out trying to knock out 150 push ups every other day in as few sets as possible, with the aim being doing it in less than an hour. After a while I bumped it up to 200 push-ups. On my best days of doing this, I could knock out around 50-52 in my first set. At the test, I only knocked out 42 and was worried my chest was going to cramp up during the run. I don't feel good about the push-ups every day programs, as I think it's too much stress on the shoulder joints without time to recovery.

1.5 mile run: Run was my weakest event and I focused the most efforts on this. I ran on a track to avoid getting injured running on a road. On average I'd run 12-15 miles per week. A slow 4-5 mile run once or twice a week with a couple of timed 2 mile runs. I never ran less than 2 miles, imo less than 2 miles is a waste of time. Keep in mind the scoring categories for this: 1 point is under 12:24, 2 points is under 12:14, and 3 is ~11:30. 15 seconds is the difference between 2 points and failure.

My general schedule for workout was something like this:
Monday: Slow 5 mile run
Tuesday: 150-200 push ups.
Wednesday: 300m sprint, 40-50 push ups, 2 mile run repeated twice.
Thursday: 150-200 push ups.
Friday: 3-4 mile run. 3 sets of 50 sit-ups or as many as possible in 1 minute, whichever was more.
Saturday: 150-200 push ups.
Sunday: Run or mock fitness test.

If you do not train for the test environment, you're not going to do well. The transition between events is challenging, and only training will alleviate this. After that 300m sprint and 5 minute break, you're still going to be huffing when you start push-ups. After push-ups, I felt like my pec muscle was going to cramp up and spent that precious 5 minute break massaging it out so I wouldn't cramp on the run.

Another big consideration is sleep, diet, and supplements. Get your 8 hours, getting poor or barely any sleep is going to reduce the effectiveness of your training. The last thing you want to do is put in the effort during the workout and barely improve because you sleep 4 hours a night. Diet and supplements are important too. I'd suggest everyone get protein powder and just have at least a shake a day. The same as sleep, you want to make the most of your training efforts and having adequate protein is important for it. Worse case scenario you don't need it and just wasted a few bucks.

The last thing I'll add is supplements. I'm not a big believer in supplements and think they're unnecessary, but I started drinking creatine while training. Research studies have shown it can improve some efforts, although the effect is small and on the order of 5% performance increase. Did it have an effect on my performance? I honestly don't know, but it's relatively cheap at around 10 bucks for a generic bag for it and I'd rather spend a few bucks on the chance it works than fail.

Overall it just comes down to putting in the work.
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