FBI

What I find most interesting about this years announcement is that they are now requiring a MASTERS degree if you are a criminal justice major. It looks like damn near every other field can still be a bachelor's degree... I guess what people say (that CJ is the worst major if you are trying to work for the FBI) might be true. I guess this is a good way of weeding out massive numbers of CJ applicants.....

Does this really upset any other CJ majors? They don't specifically call out any other major in this way. This is really just idiotic. I know that "dumb CJ major" is a stigma at a lot of schools, but just because someone is a CJ major doesn't mean they are an idiot.

I mean the more I think about it... "bachelor's degree in political science, economics, chemistry, biology, physics, cyber, etc. No problem. Criminology/Criminal Justice? Better be a masters" lol. Just dumb. You know, maybe this agency really is all for show with idiotic moves like this one. Makes you wonder if they are really as elite as the public relations department wants you to think.

Well, I guess us CJ majors with ONLY an undergraduate degree in CJ are out of the picture from this point. Time to go take out another 50K in student loans to get the masters to get an IA job starting at 37K (or 45K with a masters and a $100K student loan lol... and they wonder why they have trouble recruiting people....)

I'm sorry, but no. Just. No.

This has crossed into insanity territory at this point. This is progressive credentialism in full swing, and it's not just the FBI doing this. (Though, I am sad to see that the FBI, like so many employers, has now gotten in on the action.)

What - pray tell - changed in the last year to justify suddenly upping the requirement from a BA/BS to an MA/MS degree? Not a damn thing. It was done simply because another arrogant employer knew they could get away with it, and fools (job seekers/students) would go along with it. Let us also keep in mind that BLS is reporting a 1.9% unemployment rate for college grads.... yet employers still seem totally cool with progressive credentialism. Interesting.

When you increase job requirements for no reason what-so-ever, you profoundly impact peoples lives in terrible ways.

We are in the midst of what is rapidly becoming a nationwide student loan crisis. (There was even a series of posts on one of the other threads here hoping that the FBI would pay off student loans for new hires.). We are looking at soon to be over $2 trillion dollars in outstanding student loans nationwide, backed by the government no less.... student loans that massive numbers of graduates are no longer able to pay and could likely be with them until death.

Yet, employers continue to ask for more and more "education" for no valid reason. This was fine when a masters degree was $5000 at a state university. Now, at many schools, a masters degree means taking out 50K in student loans at a 6-8% interest rate... this is on top of massive undergraduate student loans.

So, lets say people go and get a masters degree and end up 50K more in student loan debt. The FBI is not guaranteeing being hired. The FBI is not paying for that education. It costs them nothing, but people are looking at a lifetime of paying student loans just because the FBI arbitrarily decided you just suddenly needed a masters? GTFO.

To make matters worse, let's say you go and get the masters degree now. Ok, and let's say the FBI hires you as an IA. Ok, great. Now, let's suppose the FBI ships you to Tucson, AZ. GS-9 in Tucson, AZ pays $25.62/hour. Are you kidding me???

So, the FBI wants people to walk in the door with a masters degree, possibly up to 100K in student loans, and wants them to move across the country for $25.62/hour? Are they out of their damn minds? After moving expenses, rent, food, cell phone bill, car insurance, etc... that $25.62/hour sure as hell doesn't leave much room to start paying down a massive student loan balance.

They are out of their minds. I'm not going into massive student loan debt to maybe get an IA position paying $25.62/hour, and anyone who does so is a fool. So, in response to this ridiculous masters degree requirement, I say it again. No. Just. No. It's time people stop ruining their lives with student loan debt for employers who don't give a damn about them and don't care if they spend the rest of their life in massive student loan debt.

Hi everyone :)

Once you apply, how long does it take to be invited to phase I?
I applied on the 27th, and I do not expect to hear anytime soon, but I am just curious. From what I read in the forums, people with STEM degrees seem to be invited quicker than other majors.

Thank you.

Got the Mutombo email this morning for IA app. Looks like I will have to stick to the SA process. Good luck to anyone else who is moving on.

Sorry just a reference to former NBA player Dikembe Mutombo who blocked alot of shots.

Since the posting went live early, and then ended rather promptly, will there likely be another posting as planned in March? Or is it advisable to anticipate another year before another posting? Thanks for the gouge.