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TheRealOrange  
#21 Posted : Wednesday, March 25, 2020 9:03:04 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: postalvet Go to Quoted Post
here is the bill couldn't find the post office mentioned anywhere.

maybe some of you will have a better search.

https://www.congress.gov...ss/senate-bill/3548/text

I don't think the Senate bill ever had anything about the USPS in it. The House Democrats proposed a stimulus spending package on Monday that included $25 billion to the USPS over the next two years to withstand an expected loss in mail revenue. I'm not sure it was ever put forth in the form of a bill.
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#22 Posted : Wednesday, March 25, 2020 9:17:02 AM(UTC)

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I really doubt the USPS will be in the bill....everybody gets bailed out but let’s f over the USPS....the people that are out there in the mix....USPS workers always get screwed...I assume big layoffs are coming....probably 5 day....and huge paycuts....thanks for nothing Congress!!!!!
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#23 Posted : Wednesday, March 25, 2020 9:35:55 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Mike662 Go to Quoted Post
I really doubt the USPS will be in the bill....everybody gets bailed out but let’s f over the USPS....the people that are out there in the mix....USPS workers always get screwed...I assume big layoffs are coming....probably 5 day....and huge paycuts....thanks for nothing Congress!!!!!


I feel bad for the next contract negotiation.
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#24 Posted : Wednesday, March 25, 2020 10:19:32 AM(UTC)

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https://peoplesworld.org...-trillion-stimulus-bill/
This says that the USPS is in bill and is getting a bailout.....🤷🏼‍♂️...not sure
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#25 Posted : Wednesday, March 25, 2020 10:30:14 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Mike662 Go to Quoted Post
https://peoplesworld.org/article/after-tugging-congress-and-trump-agree-on-2-trillion-stimulus-bill/
This says that the USPS is in bill and is getting a bailout.....🤷🏼‍♂️...not sure

That article from yesterday seems to simply mention the House bill -- "And in a key win for U.S. postal unions and the USPS workforce, the House version of the $2 trillion bill cancels the $11 billion in the remaining two years’ worth of mandated pre-paid health care costs that a GOP-run Congress imposed on the USPS in 2006." I don't think the Senate version, which has already passed, included any mention of the USPS. It looks like the House may try to quickly pass the Senate version:

"Pelosi has hoped to move the package quickly through the House by unanimous consent, allowing it to get to President Trump's desk without calling lawmakers back to Washington amid travel concerns surrounding the spreading pandemic."

"'It's not as strong as the House's alternative bill,' Pelosi said, 'but marks a stark improvement over the Republicans' initial proposal' — an indication she wants to move it quickly through Congress."

https://thehill.com/home...navirus-stimulus-package
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So basically USPS is left out again.....
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#27 Posted : Wednesday, March 25, 2020 11:58:11 AM(UTC)
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i would not hold my breath.
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#28 Posted : Wednesday, March 25, 2020 11:58:58 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Mike662 Go to Quoted Post
I really doubt the USPS will be in the bill....everybody gets bailed out but let’s f over the USPS....the people that are out there in the mix....USPS workers always get screwed...I assume big layoffs are coming....probably 5 day....and huge paycuts....thanks for nothing Congress!!!!!


I feel bad for the next contract negotiation.


I haven’t been an employee as long as most people on here (December 2004) but I have heard this nonsense probably as much as I have follicles of hair on my head. It’s just a tired fear. Good grief.
Seadogg  
#29 Posted : Wednesday, March 25, 2020 1:25:32 PM(UTC)
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On the one hand, postal reform legislation is still needed and would be better done in comprehensive fashion, not rushed as part of this rescue bill.

On the other hand, now was when the purse strings were open...
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MPE2009 on 3/25/2020(UTC)
Mike662  
#30 Posted : Wednesday, March 25, 2020 3:55:47 PM(UTC)

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Hopefully the house will add USPS back into the final bill....who knows at this point.
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#31 Posted : Wednesday, March 25, 2020 3:58:53 PM(UTC)
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They can simply raise the borrowing limit. Reform another day.
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#32 Posted : Wednesday, March 25, 2020 4:57:08 PM(UTC)
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1. The Post Office IS a Constitutionally guaranteed agency the same as the
government offices, military, and judiciary.

The Post Office is NOT a business. It is a Federal agency in place to protect
American commerce by offering an affordable alternative in shipping and communications
under the oversight of the US board of governors.

This is the only way to keep the costs down across the board.

The idea was sound enough in 1781 to put in the U.S. Constitution when Americans were far less
consumers than we are today.

If kaput be the Post Office, total inflation (since everybody and every product uses shipping and communications)
would make the current COVID 19 crisis look like a Christmas vacation.

2. People "Milking" jobs? Postal Management evaluates practically every breath we take,
they lie about the numbers, they cheat and steal, and try to intimidate and badger hard workers
into skipping breaks, cutting corners, AND they promote and encourage tyrannical behavior in supervisors (until
the supervisors get in hot water... then it's the stupid act, "I don't know why they acted that way...").

If it did not happen so frequently, I would not accuse them of this.

I am a 36 year Postal veteran.

If a worker is milking anything, management already knows about it.

Personally I love the GPS in our scanners. It prove I've always been the honest one.

3. Running around scared or for some sort of ego trip will only end up in getting
someone hurt or you fired. Do a good job. Do what you are told (within reason) ← file a grievance
if it is not. Call Postal Inspectors if the Union bargains your case away with management.

Take the time it takes to do the freakin' job right, safe, as an hourly employee.
Management is paid to sweat blood over the numbers NOT YOU!!!

If you are gifted with greater ability to deliver mail (or whatever) DON'T judge others by your
abilities. AND volunteer for a bigger route (etc.).


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#33 Posted : Wednesday, March 25, 2020 8:04:03 PM(UTC)
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section 6001 of the Senate bill allows us to borrow an extra $10B:


1) the Postal Service may borrow money from the Treasury in an amount not to exceed $10,000,000,000— to be used for such operating expenses; which may not be used to pay any out-standing debt of the Postal Service
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#34 Posted : Wednesday, March 25, 2020 8:18:19 PM(UTC)

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Thanks for the info....that’s good news!!!!
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#35 Posted : Thursday, March 26, 2020 6:36:19 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: shackmaster Go to Quoted Post
section 6001 of the Senate bill allows us to borrow an extra $10B:


1) the Postal Service may borrow money from the Treasury in an amount not to exceed $10,000,000,000— to be used for such operating expenses; which may not be used to pay any out-standing debt of the Postal Service


where did you see that?

SEC. 6001. EMERGENCY DESIGNATION.
(a) In General.—The amounts provided under this Act are designated as an emergency requirement pursuant to section 4(g) of the Statutory Pay-As-You-Go Act of 2010 (2 U.S.C. 933(g)).

(b) Designation In Senate.—In the Senate, this Act is designated as an emergency requirement pursuant to section 4112(a) of H. Con. Res. 71 (115th Congress), the concurrent resolution on the budget for fiscal year 2018.

this is from my link above.
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#36 Posted : Thursday, March 26, 2020 7:58:11 AM(UTC)
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Government executive says the final deal gives the post office a new $10 billion line of credit
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#37 Posted : Thursday, March 26, 2020 8:24:07 AM(UTC)
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Government executive says the final deal gives the post office a new $10 billion line of credit


The House Democrats had also included provisions to revoke three Trump-signed executive orders and one memorandum that sought to weaken federal employee unions and hasten the disciplinary process. It would have provided a $25 billion cash injection to the Postal Service and forgiven $11 billion of its public debt. President Trump and Republican lawmakers have criticized Democrats for including provisions they viewed as extraneous to the immediate crisis, but the final deal provided USPS with a new $10 billion line of credit
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#38 Posted : Thursday, March 26, 2020 10:15:06 AM(UTC)
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Stimulus legislation nearing passage does not include vital relief for the Postal Service



https://forum.federalsou...s&t=86732#post962008
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#39 Posted : Thursday, March 26, 2020 12:25:35 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: truckman Go to Quoted Post
They can simply raise the borrowing limit. Reform another day.


Hell we still need to payback the last loan we got from the tax payers to keep us afloat.
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#40 Posted : Thursday, March 26, 2020 12:34:41 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: truckman Go to Quoted Post
They can simply raise the borrowing limit. Reform another day.


Hell we still need to payback the last loan we got from the tax payers to keep us afloat.


Yea but we don't receive any taxpayer dollars.....remember?
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