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nylahj09  
#1 Posted : Monday, September 14, 2020 1:39:22 PM(UTC)
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Hello,

A SF-52 action was submitted on September 1st for a grade promotion. My supervisor stated it was approved already. Anybody know how long it usually take to go through? Also would I see my eopf file updated before seeing the increase on my paycheck?

Thanks in advance
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HR can be slow. It should be retroactive to the effective date of the promotion. They have to cut the SF50 before you will see it in your check. It depends how quickly HR uploads to the new SF50 to your eOPF. Congrats!
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#3 Posted : Saturday, September 19, 2020 5:27:08 AM(UTC)
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Thank you!!
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#4 Posted : Wednesday, October 7, 2020 12:59:05 PM(UTC)
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So Im not sure if anyone if familiar but I received a Step 2 promotion in June...HR is now telling me I would have to wait to become a Grade 6. They said I have to be in a GS-5 STEP 2 for a year before receiving a grade promotion.

Do anyone know if this is accurate or not??

It doesn't make sense to me because if I was to apply for a different position right now as a 6, the only requirements I would need is 52 weeks as a GS-5. Which I already completed. I started in April of 2019.


Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.
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#5 Posted : Thursday, October 8, 2020 3:21:46 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: nylahj09 Go to Quoted Post
So Im not sure if anyone if familiar but I received a Step 2 promotion in June...HR is now telling me I would have to wait to become a Grade 6. They said I have to be in a GS-5 STEP 2 for a year before receiving a grade promotion.

Do anyone know if this is accurate or not??

It doesn't make sense to me because if I was to apply for a different position right now as a 6, the only requirements I would need is 52 weeks as a GS-5. Which I already completed. I started in April of 2019.


Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.
I posted this in response to your same question in the other topic:

Ok...what you posted is a little confusing, so some clarity:

A movement in steps within the grade are simply Within Grade Increases (sometimes referred to as WIGI or WGI). These are NOT promotions, but simply pay raises for doing your job at the "meets" or better level. If you are lucky, you can get a Quality Step Increase (QSI) for great performance.

A promotion is moving from one grade to the next in the progression. This can be from a 5 to 6 in a single grade series, or from 5 to 7 in a two grade series (all series go to single grade from GS11 up though).

So, you need to verify with your supervisor if they have submitted your paperwork for a promotion to the next grade and they need to engage with HR if HR is declaring you still need an additional year TIG for promotion. It may be the step processed first (which is typical as this may impact your starting step at the new grade), and the promotion will follow.

Of course, this is only true if you are in a ladder position which allows promotion without further competition.

You should have voted Cthulu...the greatest of all Evils
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#6 Posted : Thursday, October 8, 2020 10:28:10 AM(UTC)
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Thank you for your response...so my year as a 5 was this year April 2020...it was told to us that after a year we will get promoted to a 6, everything was processed and stopped at HR, she told my supervisor since I got my step 2 this year, that i would have to wait another year to get my grade 6...not sure if that is true.
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#7 Posted : Thursday, October 8, 2020 4:11:13 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: nylahj09 Go to Quoted Post
Thank you for your response...so my year as a 5 was this year April 2020...it was told to us that after a year we will get promoted to a 6, everything was processed and stopped at HR, she told my supervisor since I got my step 2 this year, that i would have to wait another year to get my grade 6...not sure if that is true.


I believe this is incorrect.

we often had employees due for a step in close proximity to a grade increase (these were not ladder promotions)

HR told us to process the step before the grade change as it was to the benefit of the employee and then do the grade change. the employee never had to wait a year because they had recently received a step. I am not sure if the fact that these were not ladder promotions made a difference but I don't think that should matter. your supervisor needs to talk to the super for the HR person processing this.

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#8 Posted : Friday, October 9, 2020 4:00:39 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: nylahj09 Go to Quoted Post
Thank you for your response...so my year as a 5 was this year April 2020...it was told to us that after a year we will get promoted to a 6, everything was processed and stopped at HR, she told my supervisor since I got my step 2 this year, that i would have to wait another year to get my grade 6...not sure if that is true.
Not correct...steps and promotions are two different actions.

Your supervisor needs to engage with HR and require them to provide the reference which governs this claim of theirs. I bet a HR supervisor will correct the incorrect info provided by the HR specialist.

You should have voted Cthulu...the greatest of all Evils
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#9 Posted : Friday, October 9, 2020 4:38:47 AM(UTC)
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Unfortunately I spoke to a HR supervisor...
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#10 Posted : Friday, October 9, 2020 7:07:55 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: nylahj09 Go to Quoted Post
Unfortunately I spoke to a HR supervisor...
Please re-read what I posted...Your SUPERVISOR needs to engage (not you), and they need to ask where the reference is for the requirement to wait a year after a step increase is located.

Exception I can think of: You were lateraled in to the current role as a GS5 and while you have 52 weeks TIG which gets you step increase, you do not have 52 weeks with the agency/that series/etc. That said, if you have been with the VA for 52 weeks in that position, the HR Supervisor is full of it, and so your supervisor (and maybe further up the leadership chain) needs to push for the reference HR is using. There may be something they can point to (I doubt it is supported), but your leadership is the ones who need to push the issue.

You should have voted Cthulu...the greatest of all Evils
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#11 Posted : Friday, October 9, 2020 7:13:38 AM(UTC)
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Yeah I just knew it didn't sound right...and unfortunately my supervisor SUCKS! I would rather talk to upper leadership myself (which i am currently) then to wait months for him to do it...thank you for your help. I am glad I came here and asked...
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