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#1741 Posted : Thursday, January 23, 2020 2:58:27 PM(UTC)
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In light of breathing air back into our dead forum, my timeline went as follows:

Applied: April 8th, 2019
Hiring Event Invitation: May 21st, 2019
Hiring Event/CJO: July 12th, 2019
SF86 Submission: July 23rd, 2019
BI Interview: August 8th, 2019
CPC: August 25th, 2019
Successful adjudication/Clearance email: September 30th, 2019
Hiring Manager inquiring about interest over phone: November 26th, 2019
Pre-FJO Resume Request: January 16th, 2020
FJO: January 23rd, 2020

“Patience is bitter, but it's fruit is sweet.” Hang in there everyone.


Nice! Congrats on the FJO. I'm in the cleared pool waiting on an FJO at the moment. Got cleared in November but I already had a clearance so everything pulled over very easily. When the hiring manager called were you able to ask questions about your career specialty? I'm on the fence with DIA because the career specialty I got I know literally nothing about and there's barely any information out there. If I were to get an FJO today without getting more info about the job I'd be hesitant to take it just because I have other irons in the fire with other agencies.
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#1742 Posted : Friday, January 24, 2020 7:07:55 AM(UTC)
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In light of breathing air back into our dead forum, my timeline went as follows:

Applied: April 8th, 2019
Hiring Event Invitation: May 21st, 2019
Hiring Event/CJO: July 12th, 2019
SF86 Submission: July 23rd, 2019
BI Interview: August 8th, 2019
CPC: August 25th, 2019
Successful adjudication/Clearance email: September 30th, 2019
Hiring Manager inquiring about interest over phone: November 26th, 2019
Pre-FJO Resume Request: January 16th, 2020
FJO: January 23rd, 2020

“Patience is bitter, but it's fruit is sweet.” Hang in there everyone.


Nice! Congrats on the FJO. I'm in the cleared pool waiting on an FJO at the moment. Got cleared in November but I already had a clearance so everything pulled over very easily. When the hiring manager called were you able to ask questions about your career specialty? I'm on the fence with DIA because the career specialty I got I know literally nothing about and there's barely any information out there. If I were to get an FJO today without getting more info about the job I'd be hesitant to take it just because I have other irons in the fire with other agencies.


The phone call was very basic; just asked whether or not I was still interested in working with the Agency, no details into the actual position or even the broader career specialty for that matter. I was in the same boat as you however, very little information available regarding my career specialty, but given the mission of the Agency and how the career field fits into it, I am pretty optimistic.
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#1743 Posted : Friday, January 24, 2020 12:03:29 PM(UTC)
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In light of breathing air back into our dead forum, my timeline went as follows:

Applied: April 8th, 2019
Hiring Event Invitation: May 21st, 2019
Hiring Event/CJO: July 12th, 2019
SF86 Submission: July 23rd, 2019
BI Interview: August 8th, 2019
CPC: August 25th, 2019
Successful adjudication/Clearance email: September 30th, 2019
Hiring Manager inquiring about interest over phone: November 26th, 2019
Pre-FJO Resume Request: January 16th, 2020
FJO: January 23rd, 2020

“Patience is bitter, but it's fruit is sweet.” Hang in there everyone.


Nice! Congrats on the FJO. I'm in the cleared pool waiting on an FJO at the moment. Got cleared in November but I already had a clearance so everything pulled over very easily. When the hiring manager called were you able to ask questions about your career specialty? I'm on the fence with DIA because the career specialty I got I know literally nothing about and there's barely any information out there. If I were to get an FJO today without getting more info about the job I'd be hesitant to take it just because I have other irons in the fire with other agencies.


The phone call was very basic; just asked whether or not I was still interested in working with the Agency, no details into the actual position or even the broader career specialty for that matter. I was in the same boat as you however, very little information available regarding my career specialty, but given the mission of the Agency and how the career field fits into it, I am pretty optimistic.


Well I'm glad it's working out for you. I guess if DIA comes before some other options I have going I'll evaluate at that point.
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#1744 Posted : Friday, January 24, 2020 12:15:24 PM(UTC)

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Auspex,

Do you mind telling us what a "developed character reference" is supposed to be?


Isn't a "developed" character reference one that the background investigation finds on their own. For instance, I gave the three people that know me well, and a person who knows me at the place I live. However, they interviewed my downstairs neighbor who I didn't list. They "developed" that reference on their own.

I saw him at the mailbox and he said "sone woman from the government was called me up and was asking about you"

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#1745 Posted : Friday, January 31, 2020 5:54:40 AM(UTC)
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DIA posted an article about the hiring pool yesterday. Pretty basic, but for those looking for information on the hiring process, it may be helpful:

https://www.dia.mil/News...l-what-you-need-to-know/
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#1746 Posted : Wednesday, September 30, 2020 1:30:03 PM(UTC)
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Hello everyone! Has anyone received an FJO during COVID?
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#1747 Posted : Wednesday, September 30, 2020 3:03:38 PM(UTC)
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Hello everyone! Has anyone received an FJO during COVID?


Well I think most DIA HR employees are still working remotely. So I would think that both CJOs and FJOS would be negatively affected by this. DIA did recently have at least one all remote hiring event. The agency really should have had all remote hiring events even before the covid pandemic so that applicants wouldn't have to fly in from all over the country.
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#1748 Posted : Thursday, October 1, 2020 3:26:04 AM(UTC)
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Hello everyone! Has anyone received an FJO during COVID?


Well I think most DIA HR employees are still working remotely. So I would think that both CJOs and FJOS would be negatively affected by this. DIA did recently have at least one all remote hiring event. The agency really should have had all remote hiring events even before the covid pandemic so that applicants wouldn't have to fly in from all over the country.



True, but I thought I saw they were still pushing ahead with FJOs, albeit at a slower rate. For entry-level candidates, how rare is it to receive an FJO for an overseas location?
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#1749 Posted : Saturday, October 17, 2020 3:23:26 PM(UTC)
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A few of us in our office are first time hires for overseas billets so it’s definitely possible. Really all depends on your experience and whether or not the hiring manager likes you.
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#1750 Posted : Saturday, October 17, 2020 4:11:40 PM(UTC)
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Hello everyone! Has anyone received an FJO during COVID?


Well I think most DIA HR employees are still working remotely. So I would think that both CJOs and FJOS would be negatively affected by this. DIA did recently have at least one all remote hiring event. The agency really should have had all remote hiring events even before the covid pandemic so that applicants wouldn't have to fly in from all over the country.



True, but I thought I saw they were still pushing ahead with FJOs, albeit at a slower rate. For entry-level candidates, how rare is it to receive an FJO for an overseas location?


It partly depends on your career field. Your career field is analysis, isn't it? Most analysts either start out at DIA HQ or at a stateside COCOM like CENTCOM. If your career field was mission management, then you'd have a much better chance of receiving an overseas billet first thing. Because most entry-level mission management billets are outside of the National Capital Region and many are at overseas locations. I think afvetguy is a mission management guy.
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#1751 Posted : Monday, October 19, 2020 4:19:11 AM(UTC)
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Hello everyone! Has anyone received an FJO during COVID?


Well I think most DIA HR employees are still working remotely. So I would think that both CJOs and FJOS would be negatively affected by this. DIA did recently have at least one all remote hiring event. The agency really should have had all remote hiring events even before the covid pandemic so that applicants wouldn't have to fly in from all over the country.



True, but I thought I saw they were still pushing ahead with FJOs, albeit at a slower rate. For entry-level candidates, how rare is it to receive an FJO for an overseas location?


It partly depends on your career field. Your career field is analysis, isn't it? Most analysts either start out at DIA HQ or at a stateside COCOM like CENTCOM. If your career field was mission management, then you'd have a much better chance of receiving an overseas billet first thing. Because most entry-level mission management billets are outside of the National Capital Region and many are at overseas locations. I think afvetguy is a mission management guy.


Great to know, thank you for the insight. Yeah, it would def be nice to be sent to Stuttgart as an analyst but I don't think I see that happening ^^. I'm currently in DC and will absolutely accept one if it is DC or Reston, not sure I'd be inclined to move anywhere else in the U.S. except for Tampa? I don't know much about the circumstances down there but have seen a few analyst accept FJOs there and they seem to like it.

Here's hoping I get the call this week.
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#1752 Posted : Monday, October 19, 2020 5:38:38 AM(UTC)
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Hello everyone! Has anyone received an FJO during COVID?


Well I think most DIA HR employees are still working remotely. So I would think that both CJOs and FJOS would be negatively affected by this. DIA did recently have at least one all remote hiring event. The agency really should have had all remote hiring events even before the covid pandemic so that applicants wouldn't have to fly in from all over the country.



True, but I thought I saw they were still pushing ahead with FJOs, albeit at a slower rate. For entry-level candidates, how rare is it to receive an FJO for an overseas location?


It partly depends on your career field. Your career field is analysis, isn't it? Most analysts either start out at DIA HQ or at a stateside COCOM like CENTCOM. If your career field was mission management, then you'd have a much better chance of receiving an overseas billet first thing. Because most entry-level mission management billets are outside of the National Capital Region and many are at overseas locations. I think afvetguy is a mission management guy.


Great to know, thank you for the insight. Yeah, it would def be nice to be sent to Stuttgart as an analyst but I don't think I see that happening ^^. I'm currently in DC and will absolutely accept one if it is DC or Reston, not sure I'd be inclined to move anywhere else in the U.S. except for Tampa? I don't know much about the circumstances down there but have seen a few analyst accept FJOs there and they seem to like it.

Here's hoping I get the call this week.


Yeah, Stuttgart would be a nice place to be stationed at. A few years ago, someone on this forum got a billet at EUCOM. He was mission management also.

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#1753 Posted : Monday, October 19, 2020 1:27:13 PM(UTC)
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Hello everyone! Has anyone received an FJO during COVID?


Well I think most DIA HR employees are still working remotely. So I would think that both CJOs and FJOS would be negatively affected by this. DIA did recently have at least one all remote hiring event. The agency really should have had all remote hiring events even before the covid pandemic so that applicants wouldn't have to fly in from all over the country.



True, but I thought I saw they were still pushing ahead with FJOs, albeit at a slower rate. For entry-level candidates, how rare is it to receive an FJO for an overseas location?


It partly depends on your career field. Your career field is analysis, isn't it? Most analysts either start out at DIA HQ or at a stateside COCOM like CENTCOM. If your career field was mission management, then you'd have a much better chance of receiving an overseas billet first thing. Because most entry-level mission management billets are outside of the National Capital Region and many are at overseas locations. I think afvetguy is a mission management guy.


Great to know, thank you for the insight. Yeah, it would def be nice to be sent to Stuttgart as an analyst but I don't think I see that happening ^^. I'm currently in DC and will absolutely accept one if it is DC or Reston, not sure I'd be inclined to move anywhere else in the U.S. except for Tampa? I don't know much about the circumstances down there but have seen a few analyst accept FJOs there and they seem to like it.

Here's hoping I get the call this week.


Yeah, Stuttgart would be a nice place to be stationed at. A few years ago, someone on this forum got a billet at EUCOM. He was mission management also.


Do you know what area code I should expect a call from, or is it an "unknown caller" type situation?
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#1754 Posted : Monday, October 19, 2020 1:37:32 PM(UTC)
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Hello everyone! Has anyone received an FJO during COVID?


Well I think most DIA HR employees are still working remotely. So I would think that both CJOs and FJOS would be negatively affected by this. DIA did recently have at least one all remote hiring event. The agency really should have had all remote hiring events even before the covid pandemic so that applicants wouldn't have to fly in from all over the country.



True, but I thought I saw they were still pushing ahead with FJOs, albeit at a slower rate. For entry-level candidates, how rare is it to receive an FJO for an overseas location?


It partly depends on your career field. Your career field is analysis, isn't it? Most analysts either start out at DIA HQ or at a stateside COCOM like CENTCOM. If your career field was mission management, then you'd have a much better chance of receiving an overseas billet first thing. Because most entry-level mission management billets are outside of the National Capital Region and many are at overseas locations. I think afvetguy is a mission management guy.


Great to know, thank you for the insight. Yeah, it would def be nice to be sent to Stuttgart as an analyst but I don't think I see that happening ^^. I'm currently in DC and will absolutely accept one if it is DC or Reston, not sure I'd be inclined to move anywhere else in the U.S. except for Tampa? I don't know much about the circumstances down there but have seen a few analyst accept FJOs there and they seem to like it.

Here's hoping I get the call this week.


Yeah, Stuttgart would be a nice place to be stationed at. A few years ago, someone on this forum got a billet at EUCOM. He was mission management also.


Do you know what area code I should expect a call from, or is it an "unknown caller" type situation?


If you're called, it'll probably be from either a 202 or 703 number. However, you'll receive your official FJO letter by email.
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#1755 Posted : Tuesday, October 20, 2020 10:36:41 AM(UTC)
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Has anyone received any news flyers or anything like that for their career fields? I’m just curious
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#1756 Posted : Tuesday, November 3, 2020 9:38:49 AM(UTC)
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Hey all!

Hope things are going well for you!

Due to the longevity of waiting for the slow turtle to move along with this whole process, I have been applying and was given an FJO for a different company (not government). I have read this thread from start to finish, and understand it appears that even after going to CPC/background check, it can take some time to be cleared/adjudicated and then placed in the long-haul for the Cleared Pool. That is assuming I can even pass the aforementioned.

For anybody who knows, will it hurt me to start this interim work, if I have to report it on the forms for the background check when it happens? It seems like shooting myself in the foot, if I have to let the organization know about my working for another company, who will then be visited by certain investigators. I obviously will report it, as lying on the paperwork is a means for termination of the process, but just wanted some perspective of things.

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#1757 Posted : Wednesday, November 4, 2020 2:37:36 PM(UTC)
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It wouldnt harm you as far as the government is concerned; it might be awkward if the investigators contact your new employer. You might be able to say you applied for the job a while back (which would be true) and nearly forgot about it (which might be a stretch).

Where are you in the process now with the government job? Have you received a conditional job offer yet?

If you are indeed a "Big Data" man with the credentials and experience to prove it, you should be able to get many offers, as "big data" is all the rage these days. It is no secret that DIA is running a major program called MARS (who knows what it stands for, its on the DIA public web site) that is supposed to be all about Big Data. But all the IC agencies (and most of the rest of the government) is struggling with "big data" as well.

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#1758 Posted : Thursday, November 5, 2020 1:31:36 PM(UTC)
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It wouldnt harm you as far as the government is concerned; it might be awkward if the investigators contact your new employer. You might be able to say you applied for the job a while back (which would be true) and nearly forgot about it (which might be a stretch).

Where are you in the process now with the government job? Have you received a conditional job offer yet?

If you are indeed a "Big Data" man with the credentials and experience to prove it, you should be able to get many offers, as "big data" is all the rage these days. It is no secret that DIA is running a major program called MARS (who knows what it stands for, its on the DIA public web site) that is supposed to be all about Big Data. But all the IC agencies (and most of the rest of the government) is struggling with "big data" as well.


For the sake of semi-privacy, let me just say I have a job interview with [gov] organization, happening a short period of time after my start date with this other company. Because of this, and the adjudication which possibly will happen thereafter, I am kind of in a mixed bag as to what will help/hurt me. I really want to work for this [gov] organization, but because of the high uncertainty of the job-market, immediacy of certain needs (fresh grad student-loans), and even if I am able to pass this job interview with flying colors: I am just trying to weigh my options, and not screw me over. The FJO I have is with an international organization, and I know the skills which I will be using will transcode/transfer over to the [gov] organization if I am able to move on after my interview. For larger perspective, I have applied to 450+ jobs since my last semester at university, so the investigator (if applicable) I know will be understanding if I perhaps inform them of such things. I just am worried about my new employer being immediately interrogated by this new revelation, when I did not mention I had been at XYZ-do-rey-me% of the process for this [gov] organization, during the interview process.

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Wanted to circle back to see if anyone has received an FJO since March?

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#1760 Posted : Wednesday, December 9, 2020 10:07:09 PM(UTC)
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Just wanted to give my stats from the August 2020 Hiring Event:

Analysis Career Field, prior DoD Secret clearance, no military/intel/federal government experience (was in ROTC for 4 years). >1 year of professional experience in politics/non-profits, but for all intents and purposes I’m fresh out of college.

Had prior marijuana use right after college in a state where it’s legal and lived abroad in a NATO country two separate times for educational purposes.

CJO (GG-8 Step 5): Aug 2020
Drug Test: Aug 2020
BI: Sept 2020
CPC: Nov 2020
Cleared: Nov 2020
FJO: ???

I had a hard time getting approved in the forum to post by the mods, so if you’re in the same situation and have questions, feel free to DM me!

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