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Donnyg  
#1 Posted : Monday, February 8, 2021 1:52:30 PM(UTC)
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If a carrier is on the 8hr non otdl and have use an hour of overtime every week on their route is that considered being forced (not on assignment only).
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#2 Posted : Monday, February 8, 2021 4:34:13 PM(UTC)
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National Arbitrator Mittenthal ruled in H4N-NA-C-21, April 11, 1986
(C-05860), that an employee on the ODL does not have the option of
accepting or refusing work over eight hours on a non-scheduled day,
work over six days in a service week or overtime on more than four of
the five scheduled days in a service week; instead an employee on the
ODL must be required to work up to 12 hours in a day and 60 hours in a
week before management may require employees not on the ODL to
work overtime. Arbitrator Mittenthal’s award does not extend to situations involving a letter carrier working on his or her own route on a regularly scheduled day (See the discussion under 8.5.C.2.d and 8.5.G).
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#3 Posted : Monday, February 8, 2021 5:18:33 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Donnyg Go to Quoted Post
If a carrier is on the 8hr non otdl and have use an hour of overtime every week on their route is that considered being forced (not on assignment only).


What is your steward going to do about it?
I am a professional toilet scrubber for 38 yrs and never carried b4.
I like to file 1767 for the heck of it.
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#4 Posted : Monday, February 8, 2021 5:22:07 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: noexp Go to Quoted Post
National Arbitrator Mittenthal ruled in H4N-NA-C-21, April 11, 1986
(C-05860), that an employee on the ODL does not have the option of
accepting or refusing work over eight hours on a non-scheduled day,
work over six days in a service week or overtime on more than four of
the five scheduled days in a service week; instead an employee on the
ODL must be required to work up to 12 hours in a day and 60 hours in a
week before management may require employees not on the ODL to
work overtime. Arbitrator Mittenthal’s award does not extend to situations involving a letter carrier working on his or her own route on a regularly scheduled day (See the discussion under 8.5.C.2.d and 8.5.G).


You are quoting the wrong information. Why don't you do a search on "Letter carrier paragraph" in Article 8. Then, come back to post the correct information.
I am a professional toilet scrubber for 38 yrs and never carried b4.
I like to file 1767 for the heck of it.
Donnyg  
#5 Posted : Tuesday, February 9, 2021 2:46:42 PM(UTC)
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So I am not considered being forced every week if I’m on the 8hr only list if it’s my own route when management doesn’t have coverage. ( they 100 percent do but we won’t talk about that.)
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#6 Posted : Tuesday, February 9, 2021 2:49:08 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: 38 yrs toliet scrubber Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: Donnyg Go to Quoted Post
If a carrier is on the 8hr non otdl and have use an hour of overtime every week on their route is that considered being forced (not on assignment only).


What is your steward going to do about it?


I want to say probably nothing. Lol
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#7 Posted : Tuesday, February 9, 2021 3:40:50 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Donnyg Go to Quoted Post
So I am not considered being forced every week if I’m on the 8hr only list if it’s my own route when management doesn’t have coverage. ( they 100 percent do but we won’t talk about that.)


Definition of forced
1: compelled by force or necessity : INVOLUNTARY

Definition of volunteer
1: a person who voluntarily undertakes or expresses a willingness to undertake a service:

Definition of voluntary

1: proceeding from the will or from one's own choice or consent

_------------------


It doesn't matter if you are forced or volunteer. There is a pecking order to OT. As a "8 only" carrier, notify you steward every time you work OT. They need to pull the clock rings for all the OTDL and CCA to make sure they worked 10 hours.

Edited by user Tuesday, February 9, 2021 5:41:55 PM(UTC)  | Reason: Spell check

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#8 Posted : Wednesday, February 10, 2021 6:55:13 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: 38 yrs toliet scrubber Go to Quoted Post


You are quoting the wrong information. Why don't you do a search on "Letter carrier paragraph" in Article 8. Then, come back to post the correct information.


What do you know about being a carrier you toilet scrubber?

You can't even spell it correct!
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#9 Posted : Wednesday, February 10, 2021 7:49:50 AM(UTC)
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Can someone keep a running list of who is who?
Everyone has two accounts and keep changing usernames I can't keep up with all the backstories. I wish I signed up years ago I would know better. Being new just this year is tough.
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#10 Posted : Wednesday, February 10, 2021 7:55:43 AM(UTC)
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Can someone keep a running list of who is who?
Everyone has two accounts and keep changing usernames I can't keep up with all the backstories. I wish I signed up years ago I would know better. Being new just this year is tough.


I do not have two accounts.

I just found this place in Jan 2021

After communicating with an admin they track your IP address to make sure you only have one log in.

I am confused about all the name calling that goes on here.
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#11 Posted : Thursday, February 18, 2021 1:19:40 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: New Guy 2021 Go to Quoted Post
Can someone keep a running list of who is who?
Everyone has two accounts and keep changing usernames I can't keep up with all the backstories. I wish I signed up years ago I would know better. Being new just this year is tough.


I do not have two accounts.

I just found this place in Jan 2021

After communicating with an admin they track your IP address to make sure you only have one log in.

I am confused about all the name calling that goes on here.


I have 2 logins.
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#12 Posted : Friday, February 19, 2021 10:00:46 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: You never carrried mail b4 Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: New Guy 2021 Go to Quoted Post
Can someone keep a running list of who is who?
Everyone has two accounts and keep changing usernames I can't keep up with all the backstories. I wish I signed up years ago I would know better. Being new just this year is tough.


I do not have two accounts.

I just found this place in Jan 2021

After communicating with an admin they track your IP address to make sure you only have one log in.

I am confused about all the name calling that goes on here.


If you have had contact with a real admin on this site, you're the first that I know of. So far they seem to simply ignore the outrageous behavior and allow people to fight and feud without actually contributing anything to discussions about our work place. Sure we'll wander off topic from time to time, I unfortunately have a couple of times. But I'd really prefer to see this forum get rid of all the silly feuding and return to discussing the USPS and at times other interesting topics.
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#13 Posted : Friday, February 19, 2021 12:20:46 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: You never carrried mail b4 Go to Quoted Post
Originally Posted by: New Guy 2021 Go to Quoted Post
Can someone keep a running list of who is who?
Everyone has two accounts and keep changing usernames I can't keep up with all the backstories. I wish I signed up years ago I would know better. Being new just this year is tough.


I do not have two accounts.

I just found this place in Jan 2021

After communicating with an admin they track your IP address to make sure you only have one log in.

I am confused about all the name calling that goes on here.


If you have had contact with a real admin on this site, you're the first that I know of. So far they seem to simply ignore the outrageous behavior and allow people to fight and feud without actually contributing anything to discussions about our work place. Sure we'll wander off topic from time to time, I unfortunately have a couple of times. But I'd really prefer to see this forum get rid of all the silly feuding and return to discussing the USPS and at times other interesting topics.





go here and you too can contact the admin

https://federalsoup.com/pages/contact.aspx
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