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#21 Posted : Tuesday, March 30, 2021 4:38:35 PM(UTC)
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It's been 9 years and I'm still waiting for my 30 day review.
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#22 Posted : Tuesday, March 30, 2021 4:43:31 PM(UTC)
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Thanks for the laugh.


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Thanks for the responses and information. I just watched some YouTube videos about the job. There is a lot of good stuff on YouTube.

It appears to me that the CCA position is basically a full-time job most places. I even saw a USPS advertisement, from a few years ago, for the position which said "full-time".


Likely not an add from the USPS. But from some firm telling you they can help you get a job. Or you missed the part where the ad said "leads to a FT job".

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One video from 2018 said that as a CCA he usually worked Amazon Sunday. Where I live, Amazon has a lot of their own trucks delivering packages, so I wonder if Amazon Sunday still exists in 2021?


You would have to ask the local USPS employees if they are still working Sundays. I don't have a local Amazon hub, yet. And not all areas have Sunday delivery. If you have an Amazon hub, you would have had Sunday USPS delivery.

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The same video explained why CCA's usually work 10 hour days. He said that the regular carriers stop after 8 hours, then a CCA will finish the routes which are behind schedule. The reasoning was that the USPS would rather pay the "lower paid" CCA overtime, than the regular carrier OT. The regular carriers obviously earn more per hour. Is that correct?


There is usually enough employees on vacation, sick calls or injured that the full time employees that want to work OT will be working OT. With people having to sit out from "covid exposures", many people are working 10 hour days.

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I had previously received a Conditional Offer for a Rural Carrier Associate position further from my house. Besides driving my own car, it seemed as if the hours were random. Everything I've read about the CCA position indicates 50+ hours a week.


Each office will be different. A couple of years ago my office had enough CCAs and every full time employee was working, that the CCAs were getting less than 30 hours for 3 weeks.


I wonder if the person that put that video up would say the same things today, 1-3 years later?
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#23 Posted : Tuesday, March 30, 2021 4:45:23 PM(UTC)
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As a CCA or any new employee, I am surprised at how many do not keep their form 1750 from each of their performance counseling sessions. If you had gotten a copy of yours, then if they had in fact said you were "good across the board" then you would have a document saying that, and that would have made it much more difficult to push past district to get you removed. A 1750 is required to be done with the employee at 30, 60, and 80 days and if it is not done... then again it is very difficult to get rid of an employee. If you did not initial this form during your counseling, then I would get with your steward, because they can help you write the statement that you can send to district to show that the proper steps were not taken during your probationary period.


Wrong, the union cannot represent an employee in their first ninety days or one removed in their first ninety days. Additionally the 1750 documents the discussions at 30,60 and 80 days. But doing good at 30 days does not mean you're doing good at 60 or 80 days. Plus the OP openly stated that he refused to come in earlier than the start time given to him as he walked out the door. That's perfectly legit once you get out of your ninety. Honestly with today's turnover, you've got to be really really really bad to get removed prior to completing probation. So before anyone takes the OP side in his original posting, they need to hear the other sides, such as his co-workers, customers and even his boss. But I do agree with your point about keeping your copy of the 1750. It may aid you in filing an EEO if you were illegally removed.



Not to be argumentative, but I didn't say the union would represent him or any other probationary employee. I stated that they could help him write up his claim that the proper steps were not taken during his training/probation. And I do agree that the OP seems to have several issues going on. My point was primarily that the counseling sessions need to be taken much more seriously on both sides of the table and to always keep your documents. I have seen more than one CCA have a removal reversed by district for lack of documentation.
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Yunqi  
#24 Posted : Tuesday, March 30, 2021 4:47:34 PM(UTC)
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Thanks Roger. That is my main concern - not working much. I may have to visit the Post Office and ask.
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#25 Posted : Tuesday, March 30, 2021 5:00:30 PM(UTC)
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Thanks Roger. That is my main concern - not working much. I may have to visit the Post Office and ask.


It is unlikely during the current times that CCAs are not working enough hours. Those in my office are working to much. But, there may be a time where the stars align and the hours are not there. There is a limit to how many CCAs can be hired in each area. But 1 office may have 1-2 to many. While an office 70 miles away are 1-2 short.

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#26 Posted : Tuesday, March 30, 2021 5:19:52 PM(UTC)
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MPE i “comprehended” completely my only point i was trying to make is that treatment there is ***** , whether you feel being underfoot is something you should deal with is irrelevant. i have something called self-respect and i have plenty of references/experience to back up I'm a hard worker and invaluable as an employee no matter where i work . i won’t be treated with any less workplace dignity then i deserve. i just received my class A i get 5 paid holidays and great benefits monday-fri with overtime being optional and i’m
making more then regulars make in a 20 year career at the post office starting . all i’m saying is there’s options for new CCAS you don’t have to deal with the abuse . depending if your office was anything like mine or not .
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#27 Posted : Tuesday, March 30, 2021 5:36:22 PM(UTC)
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during your probationary period you will not come in early ,.? We just had a cca get through his 90 days. He answered the phone and came in early. He was the last to leave too. He wants the job.
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#28 Posted : Tuesday, March 30, 2021 5:56:11 PM(UTC)
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i never said i didn’t go in early i did go in earlier when i was properly notified .... my manager sends me text messages at 4:00 am and expected me to answer a TEXT. no courtesy call, NOTHING . never received a phone call once in my 80 days there .
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#29 Posted : Tuesday, March 30, 2021 5:59:45 PM(UTC)
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what’s the point of responding if you don’t read the whole posts . never did i once not show up for a shift and say no to coming in early the problem was that i am till 2-3 am with a newborn and i’m not responding to a text at 4 am . every post office is different . i enjoyed the job not. there are things i didn’t mention in the original post because it was Unnecessary and too much to type out
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#30 Posted : Tuesday, March 30, 2021 7:13:19 PM(UTC)
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OH I read the whole pist. The supervisor txt you at 6;30. Correct. Then in a later txt you say 4:00. When I started 27 1/2 years ago I would get up early shower and get dress and wait for the phone to ring. Everybody has done it, what makes you so special.
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#31 Posted : Tuesday, March 30, 2021 7:16:24 PM(UTC)
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Yunqui- You can ask and they will tell you anything. They are not required to be truthful about hours
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#32 Posted : Tuesday, March 30, 2021 8:50:01 PM(UTC)
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thanks for your warped opinion donald lol you feel the treatment there is not bad, good for you . your entitled to how you feel. so am i . I don’t have the luxury to wait around for a text there were times i got a text at 6:30 am and there were times i got a text at 4:00 am point is they ask too much of people using there own vehicles with no offer of extra wages an hour just a 20$ extra a day with no coverage if someone smashes in to us and totals your car .. you work at the post office you should know they’ll text you at any hour of the morning and i’m sure things now are a lot diff from when you started.i’ve had regulars who worked there 25+ years say the same thing i do. that times have changed. like i said they didn’t call me at my office , they texted i’m not on call or should i say “on text” lol they don’t pay me good enough to be on call . i know people who work on call they get paid atleast 25+ an hour starting . i’m not special , but i’m not a slave. i have a life outside of work sorry that offends you .
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#33 Posted : Wednesday, March 31, 2021 2:18:46 AM(UTC)
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thanks for your warped opinion donald lol you feel the treatment there is not bad, good for you . your entitled to how you feel. so am i . I don’t have the luxury to wait around for a text there were times i got a text at 6:30 am and there were times i got a text at 4:00 am point is they ask too much of people using there own vehicles with no offer of extra wages an hour just a 20$ extra a day with no coverage if someone smashes in to us and totals your car .. you work at the post office you should know they’ll text you at any hour of the morning and i’m sure things now are a lot diff from when you started.i’ve had regulars who worked there 25+ years say the same thing i do. that times have changed. like i said they didn’t call me at my office , they texted i’m not on call or should i say “on text” lol they don’t pay me good enough to be on call . i know people who work on call they get paid atleast 25+ an hour starting . i’m not special , but i’m not a slave. i have a life outside of work sorry that offends you .


You're a bit busy being offended. I don't see anybody here denying that there are better jobs out there depending on the individual and the location. It doesn't change the point that during the first 90 days, that if you want to keep the job, you go above and beyond. You made your decisions based upon what was best for you and were removed. It was simply your choice and the outcome based upon your choice.
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#34 Posted : Wednesday, March 31, 2021 6:10:30 AM(UTC)
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To the OP... may your skill sets lead you to greener pastures.

Maybe one of those people you know who's getting $25 or more an hour can hook you up?

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#35 Posted : Wednesday, March 31, 2021 9:49:35 AM(UTC)
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MPE i “comprehended” completely my only point i was trying to make is that treatment there is ***** , whether you feel being underfoot is something you should deal with is irrelevant. i have something called self-respect and i have plenty of references/experience to back up I'm a hard worker and invaluable as an employee no matter where i work . i won’t be treated with any less workplace dignity then i deserve. i just received my class A i get 5 paid holidays and great benefits monday-fri with overtime being optional and i’m
making more then regulars make in a 20 year career at the post office starting . all i’m saying is there’s options for new CCAS you don’t have to deal with the abuse . depending if your office was anything like mine or not .



Congratulations on finding an alternative to the PO. There are some good jobs out there that do not require college degrees.
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#36 Posted : Thursday, April 1, 2021 6:49:25 AM(UTC)
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Try pse or mha instead. Much easier workload with no harassment.
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#37 Posted : Thursday, April 1, 2021 12:17:50 PM(UTC)
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i won’t be treated with any less workplace dignity then i deserve. i just received my class A i get 5 paid holidays and great benefits monday-fri with overtime being optional and i’m
making more then regulars make in a 20 year career at the post office starting . all i’m saying is there’s options for new CCAS you don’t have to deal with the abuse . depending if your office was anything like mine or not .


Congratulations on the new CDL job. IMHO you are much better off. Post Office has always treated their employees terribly. Some USPS offices / careers are worse than others. Sounds like you are already making more $$ than you would of at the PO. Good for you. Call it a blessing you didn't pass your 90 days and enjoy EVERY weekend off. Can't tell you how many family functions I missed out on working Saturdays.

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