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CharlieGuy  
#1 Posted : Tuesday, April 20, 2021 7:06:57 AM(UTC)
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Hi everyone!

I have this question concerning personal cell phone usage for Government-conducted business. I've been utilizing my personal cell phone line during the entire length of the pandemic so far for work-related functions. I've inquired with my management to obtain a Government-issued cell phone - that request was ultimately pushed to the side (however, I'm going to keep pressing them).

Is the Government required to give you a sort of stipend to utilize your personal phone on your personal bill? If I didn't have my personal cell phone I wouldn't be able to attend any phone meetings or take any calls over the course of the past year.

I've contacted my HR and they have not heard of this request before and said that stipend would be unlikely. I presented them with this OPM link (the language is kind of vauge): https://www.opm.gov/faqs...7-4271-8642-183bf6da605c

Any suggestions/advice/comments would be greatly appreciated!
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#2 Posted : Tuesday, April 20, 2021 1:58:10 PM(UTC)
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Hi everyone!

I have this question concerning personal cell phone usage for Government-conducted business. I've been utilizing my personal cell phone line during the entire length of the pandemic so far for work-related functions. I've inquired with my management to obtain a Government-issued cell phone - that request was ultimately pushed to the side (however, I'm going to keep pressing them).

Is the Government required to give you a sort of stipend to utilize your personal phone on your personal bill? If I didn't have my personal cell phone I wouldn't be able to attend any phone meetings or take any calls over the course of the past year.

I've contacted my HR and they have not heard of this request before and said that stipend would be unlikely. I presented them with this OPM link (the language is kind of vauge): https://www.opm.gov/faqs...7-4271-8642-183bf6da605c

Any suggestions/advice/comments would be greatly appreciated!


Are you making long distance calls on a daily basis, or calling into local/free numbers? I don’t see it being an issue and wouldn’t complain about it.
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#3 Posted : Tuesday, April 20, 2021 2:50:30 PM(UTC)
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Your employer should be providing you the tools to do your job.

Do they provide you a laptop to work from home?
Socialist governments traditionally do make a financial mess. They always run out of other people’s money. --Margaret Thatcher
CharlieGuy  
#4 Posted : Tuesday, April 20, 2021 4:37:57 PM(UTC)
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Your employer should be providing you the tools to do your job.

Do they provide you a laptop to work from home?



They do not. We have to use personal laptop as well. We utilize a VPN.
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#5 Posted : Tuesday, April 20, 2021 6:17:42 PM(UTC)
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What position are you in?
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Navy Bubblehead  
#6 Posted : Wednesday, April 21, 2021 4:25:37 AM(UTC)
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Your employer should be providing you the tools to do your job.

Do they provide you a laptop to work from home?



They do not. We have to use personal laptop as well. We utilize a VPN.


I am sorry, I simply do not believe that at all.
TheRealOrange  
#7 Posted : Wednesday, April 21, 2021 4:45:30 AM(UTC)
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Your employer should be providing you the tools to do your job.

Do they provide you a laptop to work from home?

They do not. We have to use personal laptop as well. We utilize a VPN.

I am sorry, I simply do not believe that at all.

It depends on the agency, position, telework policy, etc. Until pretty recently, my agency did not provide equipment for employees to telework; they used their personal desktop or laptop computers, a PIV Card USB adapter, and VPN. I imagine that quite a few agencies are still doing that rather than issuing all employees a government-issued laptop, especially depending on available funding. I know that not all employees have been issued work cell phones, but they would have to show how the use on the job increased their costs to request any type of reimbursement.
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#8 Posted : Wednesday, April 21, 2021 4:59:12 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: TheRealOrange Go to Quoted Post
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Your employer should be providing you the tools to do your job.

Do they provide you a laptop to work from home?

They do not. We have to use personal laptop as well. We utilize a VPN.

I am sorry, I simply do not believe that at all.

It depends on the agency, position, telework policy, etc. Until pretty recently, my agency did not provide equipment for employees to telework; they used their personal desktop or laptop computers, a PIV Card USB adapter, and VPN. I imagine that quite a few agencies are still doing that rather than issuing all employees a government-issued laptop, especially depending on available funding. I know that not all employees have been issued work cell phones, but they would have to show how the use on the job increased their costs to request any type of reimbursement.


Actually, my experience has always been the other way around. I've been with 7 different agencies and I've always been issued a government laptop. We were constantly briefed on the fact that it was impermissible to utilize personal equipment and effects without authorization. (ie telework agreement states you'll provide the internet and utility costs, etc) Out of the 7 agencies, 5 of them provided phones; the DoA and DoN did not and there were plenty of people who did not take calls after hours and rightly so.

Navy Bubblehead  
#9 Posted : Wednesday, April 21, 2021 8:18:07 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: TheRealOrange Go to Quoted Post
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Originally Posted by: roger.d Go to Quoted Post
Your employer should be providing you the tools to do your job.

Do they provide you a laptop to work from home?

They do not. We have to use personal laptop as well. We utilize a VPN.

I am sorry, I simply do not believe that at all.

It depends on the agency, position, telework policy, etc. Until pretty recently, my agency did not provide equipment for employees to telework; they used their personal desktop or laptop computers, a PIV Card USB adapter, and VPN. I imagine that quite a few agencies are still doing that rather than issuing all employees a government-issued laptop, especially depending on available funding. I know that not all employees have been issued work cell phones, but they would have to show how the use on the job increased their costs to request any type of reimbursement.


What agencies are still using towers? Laptops are the default equipment issued. As someone else mentioned, connecting personal computer equipment to govt networks is forbidden government-wide, so not sure how anyone is doing government work on a personal laptop. I have had a govt issued phone in the past, and dumped it at the first opportunity. Its just one more thing to keep up with. It doesn't cost me anything more to use my own phone to take work calls, so I just role with that.
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