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tamvid11  
#561 Posted : Monday, April 26, 2021 4:43:44 AM(UTC)
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With so many questions about vaccines and medical, most should just reach out to their HR specialist or AC and ask some direct questions, they will be helpful. When they schedule medical, they will send you a packet of information for you to fill out, but then they also send INSTRUCTIONS. Read those. That is where they tell you to bring your vaccination records. You don't list anything out on any paperwork yourself about these. You bring the documentation so that the doctor can review. Same thing with that huge VA disability narrative (not just the determination) - it says to give it to your AC. I think most also take it to medical, but if you don't already have the narrative, you should get it sooner rather than later. They also ask for records of current medical conditions if they are ongoing, documentation for any hospital says within a certain period of years, and records for any surgeries performed in the last couple of years. If you don't bring those, they will see your medical as incomplete and have you do a follow-up so that those can be provided.
I only had 4 day notice of my medical being scheduled, so keep that in mind. Work now so you're not scrambling when you get that email!


I get the sense that we get more unique info here than from the AC especially when dealing with specific paperwork issues.


LOL I have a really awesome HR specialist who has helped me start to finish with all of this. I think she might be the unique part of all of this. She of course told me "everyone gets a kickback" so I tried to take more to medical than what was asked for. Take stuff they don't ask for and see what they end up keeping was my goal. If you've been to a doc recently take those records. Ask your docs to provide letters in regards to your current medical conditions and past conditions. I sometimes have a high BP when I go to the doc, I told her my concern about the FBI physical and if they would note high BP and kick me back for a follow-up, so my doctor provided me a letter stating that I have white-coat syndrome without hypertension. I don't know if this was necessary, but they kept the letter and sent it up to HQ just so they wouldn't have any questions or doubts.
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Anyone know where in the process they do the spouse interview? Is that done concurrently with the BI or more towards the end of the process. FBI and USSS seem to be the only ones who conduct these. USSS is at the very end of the process and hiring call is typically a week or so later. FBI the same or do they do it earlier?


I completed my PSI/Poly in Dec and Medical in Jan. My spouse had the interview in February. It was very short and sweet. They essentially want to know that your spouse is aware of the relocation requirements, his/her degree of comfortability, as well as the risks associated with life and limb as SA. Hope that helps.


So definitely sounds concurrent with BI and not the end of the process. Thank you!
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#563 Posted : Monday, April 26, 2021 5:02:58 AM(UTC)
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With so many questions about vaccines and medical, most should just reach out to their HR specialist or AC and ask some direct questions, they will be helpful. When they schedule medical, they will send you a packet of information for you to fill out, but then they also send INSTRUCTIONS. Read those. That is where they tell you to bring your vaccination records. You don't list anything out on any paperwork yourself about these. You bring the documentation so that the doctor can review. Same thing with that huge VA disability narrative (not just the determination) - it says to give it to your AC. I think most also take it to medical, but if you don't already have the narrative, you should get it sooner rather than later. They also ask for records of current medical conditions if they are ongoing, documentation for any hospital says within a certain period of years, and records for any surgeries performed in the last couple of years. If you don't bring those, they will see your medical as incomplete and have you do a follow-up so that those can be provided.
I only had 4 day notice of my medical being scheduled, so keep that in mind. Work now so you're not scrambling when you get that email!


I get the sense that we get more unique info here than from the AC especially when dealing with specific paperwork issues.


LOL I have a really awesome HR specialist who has helped me start to finish with all of this. I think she might be the unique part of all of this. She of course told me "everyone gets a kickback" so I tried to take more to medical than what was asked for. Take stuff they don't ask for and see what they end up keeping was my goal. If you've been to a doc recently take those records. Ask your docs to provide letters in regards to your current medical conditions and past conditions. I sometimes have a high BP when I go to the doc, I told her my concern about the FBI physical and if they would note high BP and kick me back for a follow-up, so my doctor provided me a letter stating that I have white-coat syndrome without hypertension. I don't know if this was necessary, but they kept the letter and sent it up to HQ just so they wouldn't have any questions or doubts.


I figure I have a little docs to submit than the average 40 year old whose retired so I’ve commenced operation overlord and will have copies both scanned and hard to provide my AC so there’s very little delay. I know I can’t speed up the process but I can surely slow it down by long lead times for medical documentation. Geez I submitted my SF-86 two weeks ago ; have polygraph scheduled but not my PSI. How many days notice will they give for PSI and then physical portion to make copies of drivers license passports?
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Anyone know where in the process they do the spouse interview? Is that done concurrently with the BI or more towards the end of the process. FBI and USSS seem to be the only ones who conduct these. USSS is at the very end of the process and hiring call is typically a week or so later. FBI the same or do they do it earlier?


I completed my PSI/Poly in Dec and Medical in Jan. My spouse had the interview in February. It was very short and sweet. They essentially want to know that your spouse is aware of the relocation requirements, his/her degree of comfortability, as well as the risks associated with life and limb as SA. Hope that helps.




RE: the relocation requirement, at my M&G they seemed to indicate that if someone wanted NYC/LA (and maybe a few other big offices) they would be likely to get them. Is there a relocation requirement whereby someone cannot serve at the office that processed their app or in nearby FOs (I read somewhere that this used to be the case, but I'm not sure if it still is)? Or do you just mean that they went over the mobility agreement with your spouse which says you can be transferred at any time for any reason according to the needs of the Bureau and that there are no guarantees regarding FO assignment?


The agent who did my PFT got assigned to his processing office, he said it happens every now and then. But he's also been an agent for 10 years so who knows what the policy is now.
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#565 Posted : Monday, April 26, 2021 6:26:19 AM(UTC)
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Anyone know where in the process they do the spouse interview? Is that done concurrently with the BI or more towards the end of the process. FBI and USSS seem to be the only ones who conduct these. USSS is at the very end of the process and hiring call is typically a week or so later. FBI the same or do they do it earlier?


I completed my PSI/Poly in Dec and Medical in Jan. My spouse had the interview in February. It was very short and sweet. They essentially want to know that your spouse is aware of the relocation requirements, his/her degree of comfortability, as well as the risks associated with life and limb as SA. Hope that helps.




RE: the relocation requirement, at my M&G they seemed to indicate that if someone wanted NYC/LA (and maybe a few other big offices) they would be likely to get them. Is there a relocation requirement whereby someone cannot serve at the office that processed their app or in nearby FOs (I read somewhere that this used to be the case, but I'm not sure if it still is)? Or do you just mean that they went over the mobility agreement with your spouse which says you can be transferred at any time for any reason according to the needs of the Bureau and that there are no guarantees regarding FO assignment?


The agent who did my PFT got assigned to his processing office, he said it happens every now and then. But he's also been an agent for 10 years so who knows what the policy is now.


A SA buddy of mine out of HQ was processed in DC, put DC as his top choice, and got DC. That was about 5 or so years ago. But yeah, I've always heard they don't usually do this but, alas, it appears they do from time to time.

Hearing this makes me want to change processing office.
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#566 Posted : Monday, April 26, 2021 9:22:30 AM(UTC)
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#568 Posted : Monday, April 26, 2021 10:27:49 AM(UTC)
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I don't think for the bigger offices they don't really care that much about if you're processing out of that office and make it your #1 request. This is an old concept and they are changing it, however, you can just ask your AC about it. They would have a direct answer for you on your particular office. My office and AO is small and they said no... I could get within a few hours if I wanted possibly. I'm sure that is common when you're already in those bigger areas for you to stay. They really are trying to be more family focused and get people where they want to go. But remember you should always be upfront about the real possibility of a move with your family. LA has 10 RA offices and you could be assigned to one of those, still forcing a move hours away from where you currently live. Always be aware that just because your list includes the main offices, all RAs are on the table for each one. You might really like Denver, but do you want to end up at an RA in North Dakota (keep in mind I didn't look at the RAs for Denver, but you get my point)?

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Yeah I just sent an email to my AC asking her about the processing and staying within the same region…. I’m looking forward to hearing from my AC.
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Yeah I just sent an email to my AC asking her about the processing and staying within the same region…. I’m looking forward to hearing from my AC.


Let us know the answer! Also, you'll be able to fill out something called a hardship request at the time of the list - if there is a particular reason you NEED to stay where you are. Sometimes a spouse's job would be included on this, they are a doctor, nurse, teacher who would have to reboard if moved out of state. Medical issues for someone in the family and you help care for them... I'm not sure what else you could list, but they do allow people to make a case for their home if they need to stay.
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Yeah I just sent an email to my AC asking her about the processing and staying within the same region…. I’m looking forward to hearing from my AC.


Let us know the answer! Also, you'll be able to fill out something called a hardship request at the time of the list - if there is a particular reason you NEED to stay where you are. Sometimes a spouse's job would be included on this, they are a doctor, nurse, teacher who would have to reboard if moved out of state. Medical issues for someone in the family and you help care for them... I'm not sure what else you could list, but they do allow people to make a case for their home if they need to stay.


Answer was as follows:
Unless there is a hardship transfer reason (i.e. active military spouse, custody or dependent care, etc), New Agent Trainees are not sent back to their processing office. The exceptions to this are applicants from Los Angeles, New York, and San Francisco. Unquote! Who can PM hardship info?
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So I had my poly last week. Examiner told me I’m on the line of being a pass/inconclusive. Anyone experience an inconclusive result? If so, how long did it take to be rescheduled?
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The FBI needs to get with the times and informing applicants of their FO assignment before leaving for Q. Unless you have a spouse/family who is 100% on-board and able/willing to pick up and relocate after you've invested 5 weeks at Q, it is very tough.
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You should be prepared to move anywhere in the country before you even apply for the job. If you fool yourself and your spouse in to thinking you won't have to relocate you have no one to blame but yourself.
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You should be prepared to move anywhere in the country before you even apply for the job. If you fool yourself and your spouse in to thinking you won't have to relocate you have no one to blame but yourself.



I understand this and understand the mobility agreement, but I'm talking specifically about that initial field office assignment and at least having an idea where you will spend the first 4+ years BEFORE entering the academy. I'm in the final hiring stages with another highly mobile 1811 agency and we at least know where we will be for the first duty assignment before I even head off to training. This just makes for a smoother transition overall.
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You should be prepared to move anywhere in the country before you even apply for the job. If you fool yourself and your spouse in to thinking you won't have to relocate you have no one to blame but yourself.


SO TRUE! That is one of the reasons for the spouse interview. They can tell if you've been brutally honest with your spouse, if not, their hesitation could cost you the job - or your marriage. Usually your AC will talk to you and say, they need to get on board or this isn't for you. I do agree that the location should be told at time of hiring rather than 6 weeks in, but that's what you're signing up for - take it or leave it. You'll see people quit on orders night or a few days after... happens frequently. The idea of moving isn't real until you have to tell your spouse we need to be ready to go in 14 weeks... That reality can be really tough on people.
That list, 1-56 is daunting. Make it fun. Look at the places, see whats there (including the RAs - they do send people straight from the academy to RAs all the time), make sure your spouse can actually get a job there... Looking at every location can be tough, but seriously this process is LONG.
Word to the wise though, if you're trying for a particular place - build your list around that and don't randomly say Denver, New Orleans, Cincinnati, etc. Bouncing around like that says "I don't really care where, I'm willing to go anywhere". If you want Denver, make it #1 and spiral out your locations from there. They will see that you are actually trying for a particular place/region and you were purposeful when deciding.

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You should be prepared to move anywhere in the country before you even apply for the job. If you fool yourself and your spouse in to thinking you won't have to relocate you have no one to blame but yourself.



I understand this and understand the mobility agreement, but I'm talking specifically about that initial field office assignment and at least having an idea where you will spend the first 4+ years BEFORE entering the academy. I'm in the final hiring stages with another highly mobile 1811 agency and we at least know where we will be for the first duty assignment before I even head off to training. This just makes for a smoother transition overall.



People still turn down the job at time of offer for the same reason, they don't like the location. I think the FBI does it because it does get fewer people walking away. They are already invested in training... I don't know their actual thought process, but that makes sense to me.
I don't agree with it either. Be nice to have 20 weeks to plan a move, but I think either you are willing to go anywhere for the job or you aren't. You can say all day that you are, until you're actually told to move. You have to be willing to uproot your life for any of these positions, simple as that. Also, they don't require a move after 4 years. If you're happy were you are you can stay the entirety of your career. You also get one OP in your career (after the initial 2 years) - Office of Preference - and they will send you on their $ to where you want to be. Most agents save this in their back pocket for the end of their career and to get to where they want to settle - but you can use it earlier if you want/need.
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You should be prepared to move anywhere in the country before you even apply for the job. If you fool yourself and your spouse in to thinking you won't have to relocate you have no one to blame but yourself.



I understand this and understand the mobility agreement, but I'm talking specifically about that initial field office assignment and at least having an idea where you will spend the first 4+ years BEFORE entering the academy. I'm in the final hiring stages with another highly mobile 1811 agency and we at least know where we will be for the first duty assignment before I even head off to training. This just makes for a smoother transition overall.



People still turn down the job at time of offer for the same reason, they don't like the location. I think the FBI does it because it does get fewer people walking away. They are already invested in training... I don't know their actual thought process, but that makes sense to me.
I don't agree with it either. Be nice to have 20 weeks to plan a move, but I think either you are willing to go anywhere for the job or you aren't. You can say all day that you are, until you're actually told to move. You have to be willing to uproot your life for any of these positions, simple as that. Also, they don't require a move after 4 years. If you're happy were you are you can stay the entirety of your career. You also get one OP in your career (after the initial 2 years) - Office of Preference - and they will send you on their $ to where you want to be. Most agents save this in their back pocket for the end of their career and to get to where they want to settle - but you can use it earlier if you want/need.


Sounds like excellent advice all around.

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You should be prepared to move anywhere in the country before you even apply for the job. If you fool yourself and your spouse in to thinking you won't have to relocate you have no one to blame but yourself.



I understand this and understand the mobility agreement, but I'm talking specifically about that initial field office assignment and at least having an idea where you will spend the first 4+ years BEFORE entering the academy. I'm in the final hiring stages with another highly mobile 1811 agency and we at least know where we will be for the first duty assignment before I even head off to training. This just makes for a smoother transition overall.



People still turn down the job at time of offer for the same reason, they don't like the location. I think the FBI does it because it does get fewer people walking away. They are already invested in training... I don't know their actual thought process, but that makes sense to me.
I don't agree with it either. Be nice to have 20 weeks to plan a move, but I think either you are willing to go anywhere for the job or you aren't. You can say all day that you are, until you're actually told to move. You have to be willing to uproot your life for any of these positions, simple as that. Also, they don't require a move after 4 years. If you're happy were you are you can stay the entirety of your career. You also get one OP in your career (after the initial 2 years) - Office of Preference - and they will send you on their $ to where you want to be. Most agents save this in their back pocket for the end of their career and to get to where they want to settle - but you can use it earlier if you want/need.


Sounds like excellent advice all around.



Great advice as usual from many viewpoints to take into consideration.
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