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The Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) is an agency of the United States Department of Justice that serves as both a federal criminal investigative body and an internal intelligence agency. The FBI has investigative jurisdiction over violations of more than 200 categories of federal crime.

Headquartered in Washington, DC, the FBI has over 55 field offices located throughout the USA as well as smaller units throughout the world.

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M1keBones  
#581 Posted : Tuesday, April 27, 2021 7:17:10 AM(UTC)
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You should be prepared to move anywhere in the country before you even apply for the job. If you fool yourself and your spouse in to thinking you won't have to relocate you have no one to blame but yourself.



I understand this and understand the mobility agreement, but I'm talking specifically about that initial field office assignment and at least having an idea where you will spend the first 4+ years BEFORE entering the academy. I'm in the final hiring stages with another highly mobile 1811 agency and we at least know where we will be for the first duty assignment before I even head off to training. This just makes for a smoother transition overall.
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You should be prepared to move anywhere in the country before you even apply for the job. If you fool yourself and your spouse in to thinking you won't have to relocate you have no one to blame but yourself.


SO TRUE! That is one of the reasons for the spouse interview. They can tell if you've been brutally honest with your spouse, if not, their hesitation could cost you the job - or your marriage. Usually your AC will talk to you and say, they need to get on board or this isn't for you. I do agree that the location should be told at time of hiring rather than 6 weeks in, but that's what you're signing up for - take it or leave it. You'll see people quit on orders night or a few days after... happens frequently. The idea of moving isn't real until you have to tell your spouse we need to be ready to go in 14 weeks... That reality can be really tough on people.
That list, 1-56 is daunting. Make it fun. Look at the places, see whats there (including the RAs - they do send people straight from the academy to RAs all the time), make sure your spouse can actually get a job there... Looking at every location can be tough, but seriously this process is LONG.
Word to the wise though, if you're trying for a particular place - build your list around that and don't randomly say Denver, New Orleans, Cincinnati, etc. Bouncing around like that says "I don't really care where, I'm willing to go anywhere". If you want Denver, make it #1 and spiral out your locations from there. They will see that you are actually trying for a particular place/region and you were purposeful when deciding.

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You should be prepared to move anywhere in the country before you even apply for the job. If you fool yourself and your spouse in to thinking you won't have to relocate you have no one to blame but yourself.



I understand this and understand the mobility agreement, but I'm talking specifically about that initial field office assignment and at least having an idea where you will spend the first 4+ years BEFORE entering the academy. I'm in the final hiring stages with another highly mobile 1811 agency and we at least know where we will be for the first duty assignment before I even head off to training. This just makes for a smoother transition overall.



People still turn down the job at time of offer for the same reason, they don't like the location. I think the FBI does it because it does get fewer people walking away. They are already invested in training... I don't know their actual thought process, but that makes sense to me.
I don't agree with it either. Be nice to have 20 weeks to plan a move, but I think either you are willing to go anywhere for the job or you aren't. You can say all day that you are, until you're actually told to move. You have to be willing to uproot your life for any of these positions, simple as that. Also, they don't require a move after 4 years. If you're happy were you are you can stay the entirety of your career. You also get one OP in your career (after the initial 2 years) - Office of Preference - and they will send you on their $ to where you want to be. Most agents save this in their back pocket for the end of their career and to get to where they want to settle - but you can use it earlier if you want/need.
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#584 Posted : Tuesday, April 27, 2021 7:29:27 AM(UTC)
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You should be prepared to move anywhere in the country before you even apply for the job. If you fool yourself and your spouse in to thinking you won't have to relocate you have no one to blame but yourself.



I understand this and understand the mobility agreement, but I'm talking specifically about that initial field office assignment and at least having an idea where you will spend the first 4+ years BEFORE entering the academy. I'm in the final hiring stages with another highly mobile 1811 agency and we at least know where we will be for the first duty assignment before I even head off to training. This just makes for a smoother transition overall.



People still turn down the job at time of offer for the same reason, they don't like the location. I think the FBI does it because it does get fewer people walking away. They are already invested in training... I don't know their actual thought process, but that makes sense to me.
I don't agree with it either. Be nice to have 20 weeks to plan a move, but I think either you are willing to go anywhere for the job or you aren't. You can say all day that you are, until you're actually told to move. You have to be willing to uproot your life for any of these positions, simple as that. Also, they don't require a move after 4 years. If you're happy were you are you can stay the entirety of your career. You also get one OP in your career (after the initial 2 years) - Office of Preference - and they will send you on their $ to where you want to be. Most agents save this in their back pocket for the end of their career and to get to where they want to settle - but you can use it earlier if you want/need.


Sounds like excellent advice all around.

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#585 Posted : Tuesday, April 27, 2021 7:40:26 AM(UTC)
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You should be prepared to move anywhere in the country before you even apply for the job. If you fool yourself and your spouse in to thinking you won't have to relocate you have no one to blame but yourself.



I understand this and understand the mobility agreement, but I'm talking specifically about that initial field office assignment and at least having an idea where you will spend the first 4+ years BEFORE entering the academy. I'm in the final hiring stages with another highly mobile 1811 agency and we at least know where we will be for the first duty assignment before I even head off to training. This just makes for a smoother transition overall.



People still turn down the job at time of offer for the same reason, they don't like the location. I think the FBI does it because it does get fewer people walking away. They are already invested in training... I don't know their actual thought process, but that makes sense to me.
I don't agree with it either. Be nice to have 20 weeks to plan a move, but I think either you are willing to go anywhere for the job or you aren't. You can say all day that you are, until you're actually told to move. You have to be willing to uproot your life for any of these positions, simple as that. Also, they don't require a move after 4 years. If you're happy were you are you can stay the entirety of your career. You also get one OP in your career (after the initial 2 years) - Office of Preference - and they will send you on their $ to where you want to be. Most agents save this in their back pocket for the end of their career and to get to where they want to settle - but you can use it earlier if you want/need.


Sounds like excellent advice all around.



Great advice as usual from many viewpoints to take into consideration.
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#586 Posted : Tuesday, April 27, 2021 7:41:43 AM(UTC)
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Hey tamvid11, I tried to send a PM but your inbox is full :)
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#587 Posted : Tuesday, April 27, 2021 7:46:58 AM(UTC)
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So I have my PSI scheduled as of last night.
Updated timeline:
Phase II - 10/15/19
CJO- 4/13/21
SF-86 Submitted - 4/15/21
PSI- 5/6/21
Poly- 6/8/21
Let’s keep rolling…. 🥁 🥁
tamvid11  
#588 Posted : Tuesday, April 27, 2021 7:55:14 AM(UTC)
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Hey tamvid11, I tried to send a PM but your inbox is full :)


Fixed it!
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#589 Posted : Tuesday, April 27, 2021 8:11:35 AM(UTC)
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So I have my PSI scheduled as of last night.
Updated timeline:
Phase II - 10/15/19
CJO- 4/13/21
SF-86 Submitted - 4/15/21
PSI- 5/6/21
Poly- 6/8/21
Let’s keep rolling…. 🥁 🥁


Did you get your PSI and Poly date at the same time? I had my PSI conducted just over 3 weeks ago and have not heard about my Poly yet.
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#590 Posted : Tuesday, April 27, 2021 8:20:04 AM(UTC)
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So I have my PSI scheduled as of last night.
Updated timeline:
Phase II - 10/15/19
CJO- 4/13/21
SF-86 Submitted - 4/15/21
PSI- 5/6/21
Poly- 6/8/21
Let’s keep rolling…. 🥁 🥁


Did you get your PSI and Poly date at the same time? I had my PSI conducted just over 3 weeks ago and have not heard about my Poly yet.


So I had my polygraph scheduled before my PSI two weeks ago; although the request went out to the case agent for assignment they reached out last night.
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My wife asked A LOT of questions about moving and how that plays out. I don't know if/when they tell you this stuff if you don't have a spousal interview and don't ask... so here's an info drop. It won't answer all questions, but I know it made her feel a lot better about it.
For the 1st move, they will send a pod to your house and people to load it. You need to have all your stuff in labeled boxes. They will breakdown beds and carry out the large furniture and pack the boxes in the pod for you. They will then store the pod in the location you're moving to until you make it out there. Once you're settled in a place, they will deliver the pod with people to unpack the pod. They will reassemble beds and put the large furniture and boxes in the locations you've indicated. Future moves would include packing and unpacking services as long as they are needs of the FBI.
They will not ship a car.
My AC wasn't exactly sure how much they pay per mile when you drive, but you will get mileage and per diem during the move (he said you'll make money during the move) and only required to travel between 200-400 miles per day (he didn't remember the minimum but thought it was 200). If it takes you 5 days to get to where you're going, great, they pay for the whole thing and he said to make a mini vaca out of it when it's a long distance.
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UGH I have heard so many different things about moving now haha. Is there any word on how long they will store the POD for you? Like could you get out there and stay in a long term hotel for a month while you house hunt then get your stuff moved in then?
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My wife asked A LOT of questions about moving and how that plays out. I don't know if/when they tell you this stuff if you don't have a spousal interview and don't ask... so here's an info drop. It won't answer all questions, but I know it made her feel a lot better about it.
For the 1st move, they will send a pod to your house and people to load it. You need to have all your stuff in labeled boxes. They will breakdown beds and carry out the large furniture and pack the boxes in the pod for you. They will then store the pod in the location you're moving to until you make it out there. Once you're settled in a place, they will deliver the pod with people to unpack the pod. They will reassemble beds and put the large furniture and boxes in the locations you've indicated. Future moves would include packing and unpacking services as long as they are needs of the FBI.
They will not ship a car.
My AC wasn't exactly sure how much they pay per mile when you drive, but you will get mileage and per diem during the move (he said you'll make money during the move) and only required to travel between 200-400 miles per day (he didn't remember the minimum but thought it was 200). If it takes you 5 days to get to where you're going, great, they pay for the whole thing and he said to make a mini vaca out of it when it's a long distance.



Have ya'll had military moves? I've never had a move that didn't result in stolen or damaged things. I love a good moving purge though haha
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UGH I have heard so many different things about moving now haha. Is there any word on how long they will store the POD for you? Like could you get out there and stay in a long term hotel for a month while you house hunt then get your stuff moved in then?


Welp, she didn't ask about that. He did make it seem like they would store it until you asked for it though. There wasn't a "we will store it for 30 days", it was "we will store it until you're settled and find a place and request it".

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My wife asked A LOT of questions about moving and how that plays out. I don't know if/when they tell you this stuff if you don't have a spousal interview and don't ask... so here's an info drop. It won't answer all questions, but I know it made her feel a lot better about it.
For the 1st move, they will send a pod to your house and people to load it. You need to have all your stuff in labeled boxes. They will breakdown beds and carry out the large furniture and pack the boxes in the pod for you. They will then store the pod in the location you're moving to until you make it out there. Once you're settled in a place, they will deliver the pod with people to unpack the pod. They will reassemble beds and put the large furniture and boxes in the locations you've indicated. Future moves would include packing and unpacking services as long as they are needs of the FBI.
They will not ship a car.
My AC wasn't exactly sure how much they pay per mile when you drive, but you will get mileage and per diem during the move (he said you'll make money during the move) and only required to travel between 200-400 miles per day (he didn't remember the minimum but thought it was 200). If it takes you 5 days to get to where you're going, great, they pay for the whole thing and he said to make a mini vaca out of it when it's a long distance.



Have ya'll had military moves? I've never had a move that didn't result in stolen or damaged things. I love a good moving purge though haha

It was suggested to move "light". So it is a good time to purge! LOL they do cover the insurance on the move too, but yeah, I would just go ahead and anticipate something getting broken... I don't even want to think of the process of filing a claim. I have the mentality of, it gets broke, I should have gotten rid of it before and it just wasn't meant to be. Also, I've kept all the original packing materials for computers and TVs... Some think that is excessive - if you've done a military move with others handling your stuff - you'll know it's not.
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I asked my AC and she said the FBI will pay to have my stuff packed up and moved. So I guess don't have to have things packed and labeled in boxes ahead of time? Sounds like some of this depends on if you're a current government employee or coming from the private sector as well. I guess the moving process will all be covered in detail during a pre-q call though.
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I asked my AC and she said the FBI will pay to have my stuff packed up and moved. So I guess don't have to have things packed and labeled in boxes ahead of time? Sounds like some of this depends on if you're a current government employee or coming from the private sector as well. I guess the moving process will all be covered in detail during a pre-q call though.


It is different if you are already a current fbi employee. Then they do pack the boxes for you, but I'm not sure about if they do the same for other federal employees and transferring over to FBI. Packing can mean a lot of things, when they say pack and move, did they mean pack the pod or pack the boxes? My wife made sure my AC clarified. I would seek full clarification when that call comes. I've also seen this stated elsewhere by the FBI, they will pay for it to be loaded/unloaded, but not for the actual packing unless you are currently an FBI employee.
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I asked my AC and she said the FBI will pay to have my stuff packed up and moved. So I guess don't have to have things packed and labeled in boxes ahead of time? Sounds like some of this depends on if you're a current government employee or coming from the private sector as well. I guess the moving process will all be covered in detail during a pre-q call though.


It is different if you are already a current fbi employee. Then they do pack the boxes for you, but I'm not sure about if they do the same for other federal employees and transferring over to FBI. Packing can mean a lot of things, when they say pack and move, did they mean pack the pod or pack the boxes? My wife made sure my AC clarified. I would seek full clarification when that call comes. I've also seen this stated elsewhere by the FBI, they will pay for it to be loaded/unloaded, but not for the actual packing unless you are currently an FBI employee.


Hmm okay thanks. I'm definitely going to clarify all these things and more when the call happens so will report back on my findings as well. I'm single so if I need to have all my stuff packed to be ready to move after Quantico I'll have to try and take care of most of that before I leave.
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Taking my pre-Q PFT this Thursday. Wish me luck, ladies and gents! Hoping for June class but may end up being August depending on how Thursday goes. :)
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Taking my pre-Q PFT this Thursday. Wish me luck, ladies and gents! Hoping for June class but may end up being August depending on how Thursday goes. :)


Good Luck! My one big piece of advice is to leave everything on the track. This is it. You can collapse at home later, just as long as you make it while on the track.
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