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momof3  
#1 Posted : Thursday, November 16, 2006 11:34:52 AM(UTC)
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I was told a level 16 PM doesn't have to put in a 8 hour day just 4 but is required to put in a 40 hour week. We have a PM who leaves work to go to other organizations he is in to paint, goes shopping(not for Post office), is involved in this Christmas thing our town has and spends 6 of the hours in a 8 hour day doing that. He tells us all the time we are just PTF's and we have no rights. If we want a Saturday off we have to find coverage for it. He won't approve any of our vacation until he checks with his wife to make sure they aren't doing anything. AGHHH the list goes on and on and we are all so frustrated and don't know who we turn to. I think the post office could save alot of money if they made these PM's punch a clock like the rest of us and be accountable for what they are doing in the office. So with that said does anyone know who you would talk to about him not putting in 40 hours? Amoung other things. Thanks
superdave  
#2 Posted : Friday, November 17, 2006 2:27:06 AM(UTC)
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You could try this, but check out the information provided for an explanation of what the OIG investigates.

http://www.uspsoig.gov/
ejm604  
#3 Posted : Friday, November 17, 2006 3:00:45 AM(UTC)
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Is your union steward aware?
postalpam  
#4 Posted : Friday, November 17, 2006 1:15:29 PM(UTC)
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You are a craft employee. Grab your contract book, Article 10, Section 3 and Section 4. It is very cut and dried. His wife has no say in the matter. If he doesn't want to play by the rules...call your steward or state union rep. He's probably already missed the November 1st posting deadline. You got the PM where you want him.
momof3  
#5 Posted : Tuesday, November 21, 2006 8:06:47 PM(UTC)
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Thanks for the timely replies. I will check them out. We are just a small office with a few clerks and a few carriers. The carrier union steward isn't interested in doing anything as he says it doesn't effect them. And our clerk steward well they golf together so you know how that would go. It just effects the other 3 of us...hense mom of three, me being the eldest. Thank you again I will be checking things out and keeping a log of his ins and outs.
postalwiz  
#6 Posted : Tuesday, November 28, 2006 1:30:31 AM(UTC)
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Depending on the level office some Postmasters
are exempt and with approval do not have
to work 8 hours a day and can receive as much
as 4 hours a day of personal leave as when they
work over 8 they are not entitled to overtime.
However personal leave is not to be abused and
in this particular instance whether or not the PM
grants leave to the employees in the office should be not related as to whether or not he is
working or not or in the office or not but rather
on the needs of the office. You have two places
you can turn to, one is your steward if the PM
is turning employees down to grant leave based
on his attendance and two the PM has a boss you
should be free to contact, his MPOO. (Manager Postal Operations) and if that does not work
go to the District Manager.
bentover  
#7 Posted : Thursday, November 30, 2006 10:26:02 AM(UTC)
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These people can do anything they want and will always get away w/ it. Just the other day a 204b had us pivot his route (shorthanded still) WHEN I CAME BACK TO GET PIVOT , HE WAS IN PARKING LOT WASHING THE WINDOWS ON HIS CAR ,real classy.
postalwiz  
#8 Posted : Friday, December 01, 2006 1:42:46 AM(UTC)
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You seem to have an attitude towards management.
A 204B is a craft employee, if he or she is doing
something inappropriate you should inform the next level of managaement and have you considered
that maybe the 204B was on break or lunch and
washing his windows during this time. Assuming
is a very bad attitude to have in the Postal
Service and no I disagree "these people" were
at one time craft employees just like you and
they are still employees just like you even thou
they may be in Management. Not all Management is
bad just like all craft is not bad but there are
certainly a handful of people in the PO both in
Management and Craft that they get ticked off about something and they continue to be ticked off the entire Postal Career. Very bad to go to
work every day being ticked off! It affects so
many things in your life!
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