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saraho  
#1 Posted : Friday, November 06, 2009 9:49:06 PM(UTC)
saraho

Rank: Senior Member

Groups: Registered
Joined: 11/25/2004(UTC)
Posts: 436

TSP Advisory Services Performance YTD thru 11/6/09



1. TSP Wire........................17.5% (free)
2. Maximizing the TSP.......17.1% ($240/yr)
3. Peaceful Gains B............12.7% (free)
4. TSP Max D.....................11.5% ($100/yr)
5. Trader Fred...................10.3% ($162/yr)
6. TSP GO HR...................... 2.9% (free)
7. TSP King.......................-(3.0)% (free)
8. TSP Wealth................... -(5.8)% (free)

TSP Strategy...................... 27.4% (free)

______________________________________________
The following are not as of 11/6

TSP Advisor ...........................1.8% (as of 9/30) ($120/yr)

______________________________________________
The following are not from 1/1/09

1. Frenchee's Coolhand..........-(0.8)% (from 6/30) (free)
_______________________________________________
The following do not list YTD returns

TSP Pilot ($150/yr)

Returns for 2005-2008 are in the Files Section.

If
you have questions about the TSP, you might want to join the TSP
Strategy Group, a small group of TSPers trying to grow our returns. No
one is selling anything and no one makes a penny from the group other than potentially higher TSP returns for all. We're at
http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/TSP_Strategy

secretagentwilly  
#2 Posted : Wednesday, November 11, 2009 10:38:34 AM(UTC)
secretagentwilly

Rank: Newbie

Groups: Registered
Joined: 11/10/2009(UTC)
Posts: 6

are these numbers good or bad?
saraho  
#3 Posted : Friday, November 13, 2009 9:00:47 PM(UTC)
saraho

Rank: Senior Member

Groups: Registered
Joined: 11/25/2004(UTC)
Posts: 436

TSP Advisory Services Performance YTD thru 11/13


1. Maximizing the TSP....... 20.9% ($240/yr)
2. TSP Wire.........................20.3% (free)
3. Peaceful Gains B.............15.3% (free)
4. TSP Max D......................13.7% ($100/yr)
5. Trader Fred...................10.4% ($162/yr)
6. TSP GO HR...................... 4.7% (free)
7. TSP King.......................-(1.0)% (free)
8. TSP Wealth................... -(3.5)% (free)

TSP Strategy...................... 30.4% (free)

______________________________________________
The following are not as of 11/13

TSP Advisor ...........................1.8% (as of 9/30) ($120/yr)

______________________________________________
The following are not from 1/1/09

1. Frenchee's Coolhand.......... ...1.3% (from 6/30) (free)
_______________________________________________
The following do not list YTD returns

TSP Pilot ($150/yr)

Returns for 2005-2008 are in the Files Section.

If
you have questions about the TSP, you might want to join the TSP
Strategy Group, a small group of TSPers trying to grow our returns. No
one is selling anything and no one makes a penny from the group other than potentially higher TSP returns for all. We're at
http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/TSP_Strategy

peacefulgains  
#4 Posted : Thursday, November 19, 2009 5:26:34 AM(UTC)
peacefulgains

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Posts: 4

Thanks for posting these Sara.
saraho  
#5 Posted : Saturday, December 05, 2009 7:40:37 AM(UTC)
saraho

Rank: Senior Member

Groups: Registered
Joined: 11/25/2004(UTC)
Posts: 436

TSP Advisory Services Performance YTD thru 12/4/09


1. Maximizing the TSP........ 23.0% ($240/yr)
2. TSP Wire.........................20.1% (free)
3. Peaceful Gains B.............16.9% (free)
4. TSP Max D......................13.5% ($100/yr)
5. Trader Fred...................10.6% ($162/yr)
6. TSP GO HR...................... 5.6% (free)
7. TSP King....................... 0.1% (free)
8. TSP Wealth................... -(3.0)% (free)

TSP Strategy...................... 31.6% (free)

______________________________________________
The following are not as of 12/4

TSP Advisor ...........................1.8% (as of 9/30) ($120/yr)

______________________________________________
The following are not from 1/1/09

1. Frenchee's Coolhand.......... ...3.4% (from 6/30) (free)
_______________________________________________
The following do not list YTD returns

TSP Pilot ($150/yr)

Returns for 2005-2008 are in the Files Section.

If
you have questions about the TSP, you might want to join the TSP
Strategy Group, a small group of TSPers trying to grow our returns. No
one is selling anything and no one makes a penny from the group other than potentially higher TSP returns for all. We're at
http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/TSP_Strategy

saraho  
#6 Posted : Saturday, December 19, 2009 4:18:00 AM(UTC)
saraho

Rank: Senior Member

Groups: Registered
Joined: 11/25/2004(UTC)
Posts: 436

TSP Advisory Services Performance YTD thru 12/18/09


1. Maximizing the TSP........ 25.2% ($240/yr)
2. TSP Wire.........................19.2% (free)
3. Peaceful Gains B.............16.5% (free)
4. TSP Max D......................12.8% ($100/yr)
5. Trader Fred...................10.5% ($162/yr)
6. TSP GO HR...................... 4.5% (free)
7. TSP King....................... -(0.6)% (free)
8. TSP Wealth................... -(3.7)% (free)

TSP Strategy...................... 27.2% (free)

______________________________________________
The following are not as of 12/18

TSP Advisor ...........................1.8% (as of 9/30) ($120/yr)

______________________________________________
The following are not from 1/1/09

1. Frenchee's Coolhand.......... ...4.2% (from 6/30) (free)
_______________________________________________
The following do not list YTD returns

TSP Pilot ($150/yr)

Returns for 2005-2008 are in the Files Section.

If
you have questions about the TSP, you might want to join the TSP
Strategy Group, a small group of TSPers trying to grow our returns. No
one is selling anything and no one makes a penny from the group other than potentially higher TSP returns for all. We're at
http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/TSP_Strategy

restonham  
#7 Posted : Sunday, December 20, 2009 12:09:20 PM(UTC)
restonham

Rank: Advisor

Groups: Registered
Joined: 10/23/2007(UTC)
Posts: 122

I think these services are not worth the effort to follow them.  Frequent trading is a sucker's game and it's almost impossible on TSP now anyway.  I started 2009 with 50% in G, 15% in C, 15% in S and 20% in I.  Have not changed the allocation, but it drifted on its own.  I have increased (as of 18 Dec) approximately 18% without doing anything (no new money as I am retired).   I think that's pretty good and beats about 80% of the numbers shown.  If I were an active employee and still contributing, I would only have 10% in G and the remainder split among the other 3, but I'm not willing to take that risk anymore.  But I would have made a lot more with the latter allocation.
saraho  
#8 Posted : Monday, December 28, 2009 7:04:49 AM(UTC)
saraho

Rank: Senior Member

Groups: Registered
Joined: 11/25/2004(UTC)
Posts: 436

TSP Advisory Services Performance YTD thru 12/24/09


1. Maximizing the TSP........ 28.6% ($240/yr)
2. TSP Wire........................ 20.9% (free)
3. Peaceful Gains B.............16.2% (free)
4. TSP Max D......................15.6% ($100/yr)
5. Trader Fred...................11.2% ($162/yr)
6. TSP GO HR...................... 6.0% (free)
7. TSP King....................... 1.9% (free)

TSP Strategy...................... 29.5% (free)

______________________________________________
The following are not as of 12/24

TSP Advisor ..............................1.8% (as of 9/30)
($120/yr)
TSP Wealth............................. -(3.7)% (as of 12/18) (free)

______________________________________________
The following are not from 1/1/09

1. Frenchee's Coolhand.......... ...4.3% (from 6/30) (free)
_______________________________________________
The following do not list YTD returns

TSP Pilot ($150/yr)

Returns for 2005-2008 are in the Files Section.

If
you have questions about the TSP, you might want to join the TSP
Strategy Group, a small group of TSPers trying to grow our returns. No
one is selling anything and no one makes a penny from the group other than potentially higher TSP returns for all. We're at
http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/TSP_Strategy

normfromga  
#9 Posted : Tuesday, December 29, 2009 12:35:53 AM(UTC)
normfromga

Rank: Rookie

Groups: Registered
Joined: 5/5/2002(UTC)
Posts: 40

YTD thru 12/28/09

C Fund (free)          +28.08%
S Fund (free)          +36.59%
I Fund (free)           +30.32%
 
L2040 (free)            +26.07%
L2030 (free)            +23.23%
 
Our very best effort is not too good for our customer!
saraho  
#10 Posted : Friday, January 08, 2010 11:03:14 AM(UTC)
saraho

Rank: Senior Member

Groups: Registered
Joined: 11/25/2004(UTC)
Posts: 436

TSP Advisory Services Performance YTD thru 1/8/10


1. TSP Max D..................... 2.4% ($100/yr)
2. TSP GO HR.................... 2.4% (free)
3. TSP Wire........................ 1.9% (free)
4. TSP Key......................... 1.9% ($99/yr)
5. Maximizing the TSP........ 1.7% ($240/yr)
6. Peaceful Gains B.............. 0.5% (free)
7. Scribbler........................ 0.1% ($162/yr)
8. TSP King......................... 0.1% (free)
9. Coolhand........................ 0.1% (free)
10. Matt Blog...................... 0.1% (free)
11. TSP Gains...................... 0.1% ($120/yr)

TSP Strategy....................... 3.2% (free)

______________________________________________
The following do not yet list YTD returns.

TSP Advisor .......................... $120/yr
TSP Wealth............................. (free)
TSP Pilot................................ $150/yr

Returns for 2005-2009 are in the Files Section.

If
you have questions about the TSP, you might want to join the TSP
Strategy Group, a small group of TSPers trying to grow our returns. No
one is selling anything and no one makes a penny from the group other than potentially higher TSP returns for all. We're at
http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/TSP_Strategy

saraho  
#11 Posted : Saturday, January 16, 2010 12:06:51 AM(UTC)
saraho

Rank: Senior Member

Groups: Registered
Joined: 11/25/2004(UTC)
Posts: 436

TSP Advisory Services Performance YTD thru 1/15/10



1. TSP Max D...................... 2.4% ($100/yr)
2. TSP Key......................... 1.9% ($99/yr)
3. TSP GO HR..................... 1.6% (free)
4. Peaceful Gains B.............. 1.2% (free)
5. Maximizing the TSP........ 1.2% ($240/yr)
6. Scribbler........................ 0.1% ($162/yr)
7. TSP King......................... 0.1% (free)
8. Coolhand........................ 0.1% (free)
9. Matt Blog........................ 0.1% (free)
10. TSP Gains...................... 0.1% ($120/yr)
11. TSP Wire........................ (-0.3)% (free)

TSP Strategy....................... 2.9% (free)

______________________________________________
The following do not yet list YTD returns.

TSP Advisor .......................... $120/yr
TSP Wealth............................. (free)
TSP Pilot................................ $150/yr

Returns for 2005-2009 are in the Files Section.

If
you have questions about the TSP, you might want to join the TSP
Strategy Group, a small group of TSPers trying to grow our returns. No
one is selling anything and no one makes a penny from the group other than potentially higher TSP returns for all. We're at
http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/TSP_Strategy

saraho  
#12 Posted : Saturday, October 23, 2010 2:57:40 PM(UTC)
saraho

Rank: Senior Member

Groups: Registered
Joined: 11/25/2004(UTC)
Posts: 436

TSP Advisory Services Performance YTD thru 10/22/10

1. TSP Max D........................ 14.4% ($100/yr)
2. Maximizing the TSP........... 8.9% ($240/yr)
3. Scribbler.......................... 2.5% ($189/yr)
4. TSP Key...........................-(1.0)% ($99/yr)
5. TSP King......................... -(1.9)% (free)
6. TSP Talk......................... -(4.0)% (free)
7.Coolhand.........................-(5.5)% (free)
8. TSP GO HR..................... -(7.6)% (free)
9. Peaceful Gains B............-(15.0)% (free)

TSP Strategy....................... 5.4% (free)

______________________________________________
The following are not as of 10/22/10

TSP Advisor............................ 3.1% (as of 9/30) ($120/yr)
______________________________________________
The following do not list YTD returns.

TSP Pilot................................ $150/yr
TSP Wealth............................. (free)

Returns for 2005-2009 are in the Files Section.

If
you have questions about the TSP, you might want to join the TSP
Strategy Group, a small group of TSPers trying to grow our returns. No
one is selling anything and no one makes a penny from the group other than potentially higher TSP returns for all. We're at
http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/TSP_Strategy
saraho  
#13 Posted : Monday, November 01, 2010 6:54:39 AM(UTC)
saraho

Rank: Senior Member

Groups: Registered
Joined: 11/25/2004(UTC)
Posts: 436

TSP Advisory Services Performance YTD thru 10/29/10

1. TSP Max D........................ 14.7% ($100/yr)
2. TSP Wealth...................... 12.0% (free)
3. Maximizing the TSP........... 9.8% ($240/yr)
4. Scribbler.......................... 2.5% ($189/yr)
5. TSP Key...........................-(1.0)% ($99/yr)
6. TSP King......................... -(1.2)% (free)
7. TSP Talk......................... -(3.6)% (free)
8. Coolhand.........................-(5.5)% (free)
9. TSP Marketwatch............-(6.3)% (free)
10. TSP GO HR..................... -(7.4)% (free)
11. Peaceful Gains B............-(15.0)% (free)

TSP Strategy....................... 4.9% (free)

______________________________________________
The following are not as of 10/22/10

TSP Advisor............................ 3.1% (as of 9/30) ($120/yr)
______________________________________________
The following do not list YTD returns.

TSP Pilot................................ $150/yr

If
you have questions about the TSP, you might want to join the TSP
Strategy Group, a small group of TSPers trying to grow our returns. No
one is selling anything and no one makes a penny from the group other than potentially higher TSP returns for all. We're at
http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/TSP_Strategy
kgkistari  
#14 Posted : Monday, November 01, 2010 8:04:40 AM(UTC)
kgkistari

Rank: Senior Member

Groups: Registered
Joined: 6/8/2010(UTC)
Posts: 251

I use the mutual fund strategy but I pay $19 a month.  IMO excellent advice not only for my TSP but for my regular portfolio as well.  JMO
saraho  
#15 Posted : Saturday, November 06, 2010 11:59:20 AM(UTC)
saraho

Rank: Senior Member

Groups: Registered
Joined: 11/25/2004(UTC)
Posts: 436

TSP Advisory Services Performance YTD thru 11/5/10

1. TSP Max D........................ 19.2% ($100/yr)
2. Maximizing the TSP...........13.7% ($240/yr)
3. TSP King........................... 2.6% (free)
4. Scribbler.......................... 2.5% ($189/yr)
5. TSP Talk......................... 0.4% (free)
6. TSP Key...........................-(0.7)% ($99/yr)
7. TSP Marketwatch............-(4.2)% (free)
8. Coolhand.........................-(4.9)% (free)
9. TSP GO HR..................... -(5.2)% (free)
10. Peaceful Gains B............-(11.3)% (free)

TSP Strategy....................... 8.5% (free)

______________________________________________
The following are not as of 11/5/10

TSP Wealth............................ 12.0% (as of 10/31) (free)
TSP Advisor............................ 3.1% (as of 9/30) ($120/yr)
______________________________________________
The following do not list YTD returns.

TSP Pilot................................ $150/yr

If
you have questions about the TSP, you might want to join the TSP
Strategy Group, a small group of TSPers trying to grow our returns. No
one is selling anything and no one makes a penny from the group other than potentially higher TSP returns for all. We're at
http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/TSP_Strategy
saraho  
#16 Posted : Saturday, November 06, 2010 12:01:00 PM(UTC)
saraho

Rank: Senior Member

Groups: Registered
Joined: 11/25/2004(UTC)
Posts: 436

kgkistari wrote:
I use the mutual fund strategy but I pay $19 a month.  IMO excellent advice not only for my TSP but for my regular portfolio as well.  JMO


Do they publicly post their TSP returns?  If so, let me know where they are and we'll include them next year.  Thanks.
oktoots  
#17 Posted : Sunday, November 07, 2010 12:57:11 AM(UTC)
oktoots

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Groups: Registered
Joined: 10/17/2009(UTC)
Posts: 2,485

It's interesting how you manage to show up at key times of the year and try to show exactly what? That frequent trading adds up to higher returns? In the long run, that is not a good strategy. That some people pay for either good or poor returns. I can do that on my own which is why I do not have a financial advisor that I have to worry about making errors. I can make mistakes on my own for free. 
      Being recently retired, I am able to shift my money between the funds as I find it appropriate and I've done fine, and I've been able to sleep at night. Saraho, you've got some nice gimmick on your table, but anyone with sense can figure the TSP out for themselves and investing basics without timing the market, always a poor strategy.  
   Basically what you are saying, is that if you pay $240, you will have higher returns than someone who pays nothing. A generalization maybe, but a good reason to stay away from most financial advisors.(You don't claim to be one, do you?) 
multiple identities to 0%
freeageless  
#18 Posted : Sunday, November 07, 2010 4:25:33 AM(UTC)
freeageless

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Posts: 1,335

I agree Oktoots. Anybody can figure out the TSP themselves. I think Saraho's posting are basically a waste of time and space.
martyb  
#19 Posted : Sunday, November 07, 2010 9:57:44 AM(UTC)
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The only one of those listed sites that saraho is associated with is TSP Strategy, which is a free Yahoo group.  They don't charge anything and don't presume to tell you what to do with your TSP.  It's just a place where lots of members talk about their TSP situation, and they track how everybody's doing.  They don't charge anything.  I used to be a member over there, and the only reason I'm not now is I'm too lazy/busy to fool with it.  saraho's not trying to sell anything, and while I don't know her personally, I'm sure she has the best of intentions.  Like I said, it's not what you might think it is, it's actually not a bad group if you have time to spend keeping up with it. 
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2b_fers_retired  
#20 Posted : Sunday, November 07, 2010 10:37:03 PM(UTC)
2b_fers_retired

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Joined: 6/26/2009(UTC)
Posts: 21

saraho,
jeez, tough crowd huh?

Anyway, I do read your posts & find the statistics enlightening.  If I am interpreting your data correctly (it specifies that this data is YTD) ....... it shows only the percentages for the current year.  I wonder what the percentages for these services would be from the start of the service way back from the year the service was first offered?  At the TSP website, anyone can analyze the data for any one of the funds all the way back to when the TSP started out.  Wouldn't that analysis of the TSP websites provide a bit more "meat on the bone" in analyzing these services? 
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