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ktp118  
#1 Posted : Friday, September 10, 2010 5:06:13 AM(UTC)
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Not sure what to do. Advice needed on a few separate issues.

Salary Question:
 
I received a job offer but the salary was at Step 1. When I applied I put a minimum salary which would have been at Step 5 or 6
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Background: I have several years of previous federal employment (permanent) but resigned on a positive note due to relocation. I have not been working for over a year. The agency never asked for my SF-50 or told me the salary/step when they offered me the position.
 
Questions:
1) Should I negotiate the salary before I submit the employment documents?
2) Should I send HR my SF-50 from my previous Federal employment before I submit the employment documents?
3) Could they pull the job offer if I don't agree to the Step 1? (Just a note, I never agreed to any salary when the job offer was made.)
 
Start Date:
 
When offered the position through HR they asked if I could start on a certain day. Then I received word that I have to have some non-elective surgery that will but me out for about 2-3 working days.
 
Question:  Is it better to ask for a new start date and get the surgery taken care of before I begin or ask for sick leave after only being on the job for about a short time after taking the new position. (I don't like either option but I am in a dilemnia.)
cloudnine  
#2 Posted : Saturday, September 11, 2010 4:30:32 AM(UTC)
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1) Send in SF-50
2) Write a letter, with justification as to why you want to start at a higher step, education, experience.
3) Have you talked to your immediate supervisor about the salary offer? There is nothing wrong with negotiating for a higher salary, and even additional vacation/sick hours.
4) Get the surgery done first, request a later start date. Don't take sick leave when you start.
5) They can always say, you take the offer or not. They don't pull the offer when you start asking for a higher salary. They will simply state that the salary offered is GS-12 step 1 or whatever.
 
That is my 2 cents worth. I started and asked for a higher salary, and am glad I did.
 
I am exhausted today, looking for work is hard. I filled out three applications, KSA's, all that...has taken me over 4 hours today. When will they get rid of the KSA's!? And please, all agencies should just use USAJOBS, and the resume posted there, with all of the uploaded documents there.
Beagle  
#3 Posted : Saturday, September 11, 2010 9:18:41 AM(UTC)
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Ktp,
 
Cloudnine gave you some great advices.
 
Cloudnine,
 
It took you 4 hours? Are you talking about the KSA's on applicationmanager?  For those question I only wrote 2 paragraph.  I have a brunch of previous answers that I have used so I just copy and paste. 
cloudnine  
#4 Posted : Saturday, September 11, 2010 9:26:41 AM(UTC)
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Yes, I do that too. But there is the AVUE website also, that needs the whole resume stuff done on that website. Education, work hx, everything again! I copy and paste KSA's, but what really annoys me is that for the SAME job, there are different questions in the KSA's!!!! Annoying!  Also, if you apply for different jobs, there are different questions. They just need to do away with that whole KSABS.

ktp118  
#5 Posted : Monday, September 13, 2010 3:11:45 AM(UTC)
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Cloudnine,
 
Thanks for the sound advice. Always good to get another person's point of view. I will let you know how it turns out.
 
Good luck on the job search and those KSAs! Keep us posted.
 
ktp118
ambrai5  
#6 Posted : Wednesday, September 15, 2010 3:03:53 AM(UTC)
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Well for what it's worth here's my recent experience.
 
I currently make almost double what the position offered (Step 1), I asked for a higher salary and was told No everyone starts at a Step 1 (which I know to be BS).  I sent the OPM/Army policy for superior qualifications and requested my skills be evaluated (I hold the highest certificates in my industry and a specialized degree in my field). Was told no I don't have superior qualifications, but no list of what those might be.  Trying to decided whether to take it or leave it :(
BenLurking  
#7 Posted : Wednesday, September 15, 2010 3:52:39 AM(UTC)
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I am sure you have Superior qualifications, but in this economy there are probably a lof of people who are just about as qualified as you and if you turn down step 1 HR can easily say offer refused and move on down the list to the next candidate.  It all depends how bad you want the job - and why you are leaving a job that pays twice the step 1 pay.  I think that is what you posted in a simlar post.
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ambrai5  
#8 Posted : Wednesday, September 15, 2010 4:04:18 AM(UTC)
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And that may be true. I'm coming from a contractor job that comes, goes and comes again with contract changes. I'd like the stability of gov't, but taking a 50% cut in pay is rough. I'm just trying to figure out how far backwards I'm moving.  My concern isn't even really the money but usually in business negotiations there should be some level of compromise.  All I"m asking for is to meet me halfway, give on something...anything...
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