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Tim Bostic  
#21 Posted : Tuesday, December 24, 2013 3:04:19 AM(UTC)
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Pat in SD, thanks for the reply. This was my determination as well. I'm waiting on the firm offer and then will negotiate by providing my calculations, cut and paste from the OPM references included in my request to management.

Thanks again.
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#22 Posted : Tuesday, December 24, 2013 3:07:19 AM(UTC)
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I am also thinking that my final offer will have to be inclusive of the 1% for 2014...we have been at this paperwork shuffle for a few weeks now, any final offer will have to be negotiated AFTER 1 January. At least that is the position I am assuming on it..
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#23 Posted : Tuesday, December 24, 2013 3:08:20 AM(UTC)
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cybersapper wrote:
I am also thinking that my final offer will have to be inclusive of the 1% for 2014...we have been at this paperwork shuffle for a few weeks now, any final offer will have to be negotiated AFTER 1 January. At least that is the position I am assuming on it..
Yes, that is correct. But since all grades/steps will get the 1 percent increase, you will probably wind up at the same step.
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cybersapper wrote:
if I am currently a GS-12, Step 10 equivalent in pay banding AcquDemo, and offered a GS-13 on general schedule, trying to determine if two-step promotion calculations are correct.

GS-12, Step 10 - 78,355+2009+2009=82,373

GS-13, Step 6 - 83,619

HR has offered GS13, Step 4 - 78,841, however based on this I believe I can negotiate upon final offer for the 2 step increase to GS13, Step 6.

Am I understanding this correctly? Thank you all in advance. This forum is a great source of information.
Does your band cover the GS-13 grade. If so, then HR may be considering this a lateral move, and so moved you to the nearest step not less than your current pay.

You would have to show this is a promotion vs simply a lateral. ie the position equivalency grade for current position is not based soley on pay, but what is the Position Description grade out at as a GS (in DCIPS, when we were paybanded, all the positions had GS equivalents for this purpose).



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Not sure how this works after reading. So let's see if I am calculating correctly.

Currently GS-9 Step 3 being promoted to GS-11 (same local)

So using the chart with Los Angeles Locality Pay:

It will be GS-9 step 3 - GS-9 step 1 (2 step difference) =

59,814 - 56,075 = 3739

Go to GS-11 and find the step that is just over the +3739 increase

That gives me GS-11 Step 3 = 72,367

Am I wrong of right? And is two step always calculated by HR are do you have to ask for it?

thanks

Rob
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Originally Posted by: Rob Go to Quoted Post
Not sure how this works after reading. So let's see if I am calculating correctly.

Currently GS-9 Step 3 being promoted to GS-11 (same local)

So using the chart with Los Angeles Locality Pay:

It will be GS-9 step 3 - GS-9 step 1 (2 step difference) =

59,814 - 56,075 = 3739

Go to GS-11 and find the step that is just over the +3739 increase

That gives me GS-11 Step 3 = 72,367

Am I wrong of right? And is two step always calculated by HR are do you have to ask for it?

thanks

Rob


No. You are currently a GS-9 Step 3. So look 2 steps higher, GS-9 Step 5 using the correct table for L.A., is $63,553. Find the GS-11 step that is higher than that, which is Step 1, $67,845. You don't have to ask for the 2 step increase, it is automatically calculated by HR.



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Hello hope everyone is having a restful summer.

I have a question about the two-step promotion rule. As you know FBI SAs promote yearly from 10-1 to 10-2, 11-3, 12-1, 12-2, 13-1. I'm currently a GS 12-1 so if I'm understanding correctly:

1. I would come in as a GS 10-10 since that would be closest to the GS-12-1 pay?
2. When most are promoted to 10-2, I would stay at 10-10?
3. When most are promoted to 11-3, I would be at 11-10 since 11-8 matches 10-10 and you up go 2 steps?

Thanks again all
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Originally Posted by: res_judicata Go to Quoted Post
Hello hope everyone is having a restful summer.

I have a question about the two-step promotion rule. As you know FBI SAs promote yearly from 10-1 to 10-2, 11-3, 12-1, 12-2, 13-1. I'm currently a GS 12-1 so if I'm understanding correctly:

1. I would come in as a GS 10-10 since that would be closest to the GS-12-1 pay?
2. When most are promoted to 10-2, I would stay at 10-10?
3. When most are promoted to 11-3, I would be at 11-10 since 11-8 matches 10-10 and you up go 2 steps?

Thanks again all


1. If you are already a GS12-1 and accept a lower position, then the agency is not mandated to bring you in at matching pay. So answer is maybe.
2. If they start you at 10-10, then you stay at 10-10. Going from Step 1 to Step 2 is 12 months. Step 10 is max.
3. Look at the GS scale and look for WGI. Take that number and add it twice to your step 10 pay, then find GS11 rate that is at or above this. Which would be GS11-9 (assuming they brought you in at the step 10 rate).
That's all I got to say about that.
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Originally Posted by: res_judicata Go to Quoted Post
Hello hope everyone is having a restful summer.

I have a question about the two-step promotion rule. As you know FBI SAs promote yearly from 10-1 to 10-2, 11-3, 12-1, 12-2, 13-1. I'm currently a GS 12-1 so if I'm understanding correctly:

1. I would come in as a GS 10-10 since that would be closest to the GS-12-1 pay?
2. When most are promoted to 10-2, I would stay at 10-10?
3. When most are promoted to 11-3, I would be at 11-10 since 11-8 matches 10-10 and you up go 2 steps?

Thanks again all


1. If you are already a GS12-1 and accept a lower position, then the agency is not mandated to bring you in at matching pay. So answer is maybe.
2. If they start you at 10-10, then you stay at 10-10. Going from Step 1 to Step 2 is 12 months. Step 10 is max.
3. Look at the GS scale and look for WGI. Take that number and add it twice to your step 10 pay, then find GS11 rate that is at or above this. Which would be GS11-9 (assuming they brought you in at the step 10 rate).


Thank you sir, very helpful
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