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jjmtg  
#1 Posted : Monday, November 07, 2011 3:50:32 AM(UTC)
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http://www.khon2.com/news/local/story/Special-agent-charged-with-murder-in-connection/6PeAxN9R70inTl2s4kKLwQ.cspx

Special agent charged with murder in connection with deadly shooting



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Updated: 11/06 10:19 pm

A federal special agent was charged Sunday night with second degree murder for Saturday's deadly shooting in at McDonald's.

Police say 27-year old Christopher Deedy killed 23 year-old Kollin Elderts in the McDonalds on Kuhio Avenue in Waikiki.

Gunshots rang out around three o'clock Saturday morning.

"Everyone was liked freaked out people ran out," said Dexter Davis.

Davis was waiting to order his food when it happened.

"I just turned around and I seen the guy laying on the ground," he says.

Witnesses say that Elderts had been yelling racial slurs, before getting into an altercation with Deedy.

Police say Deedy fired three shots.

"I heard a pow and then a few seconds later I heard pow pow pow," said Connie Reinking, who was across the street at the time.

Police say one of the bullet***** Elderts in the chest, killing him.

Another bullet ended up in the wall and a third ended up in the ceiling.

Police also recovered a knife at the scene and got a copy of the surveillance video.

Investigators don't believe Elderts and Deedy met prior to the incident inside McDonalds.

"It's kinda weird because we don't really have that much other than the fights," said Robert Hackney, owner of A Tiki Tatto which is next door to the McDonald's. "shootings - that's pretty unusual."

Kollin Elderts was from Kailua - a Kalaheo grad.

His family says Kollin wasn't the type to cause trouble.

"Yeah he likes to party like any young person does, but never a person to make any problem for anybody," said his uncle Kalani Elderts.

Christopher Deedy is from Arlington, Virginia and is a Special Agent for the US State Department.

Officials say Deedy was off-duty at the time.

The State Department won't say whether or not he's in town for APEC.

In addition to murder, Deedy is also charged with a firearms offense.

He remains in custody with bail set at $250,000.

He's scheduled to appear in court Monday.

 

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#2 Posted : Monday, November 07, 2011 9:55:28 AM(UTC)
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That sounds like a bad situation overall regardless of if the agent was in the right or not. The truth is that when I started working in federal LE, I had to make the decision to not hang out in certain places, to be a coward and walk away from a bad situation, to be that much more aware of my surroundings. I also had to make the active decision to not drink alcohol while carrying my firearm.

Now I am not saying that this agent didn't do these things, but it is possible that he did not.


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#3 Posted : Monday, November 07, 2011 1:01:13 PM(UTC)
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A federal agent charged with murder is free on bail, and the U.S. State Department confirms he was here to provide protection for APEC dignitaries.

Federal Agent Christopher Deedy, 27, posted $250,000 bail and is now out of police custody.

He is charged with second-degree murder in connection with the shooting and killing of 23 year-old Kollin Elderts at the Kuhio Avenue McDonald's in Waikiki around 3 a.m. Saturday.

On Monday, a U.S. State Department spokesman explained Christopher Deedy's Hawaii assignment.

"He was in Hawaii on state department business….to support protection of dignitaries for APEC,” said Victoria Nuland, spokesperson for the U.S. State Department.

Now he's on paid administrative leave as an investigation of the off-duty shooting proceeds.

"We do have established procedures for any agent who has engaged in the use of deadly force, either on duty or off duty. The incident has been referred to our office of professional responsibility, and he's on administrative leave while these procedures go forward,” said Nuland.

Hawaii Governor Neil Abercrombie said the public is more aware of the case because of its APEC connection but that the family in mourning should be the first priority.

"I don't think of it in terms of whether the death of someone else puts us in a bad light. Our first thought is for the victim and for his family and friends,” said Abercrombie.

Witnesses say Elderts had been yelling racial slurs prior to being shot in the chest.

A police statement that gets filed with the court detailing the crime and arrest will not be available until Deedy's district court appearance. That won't be held until after APEC on November 17th. Initial appearances are normally held within days of charging.


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#4 Posted : Monday, November 07, 2011 1:36:27 PM(UTC)
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jjmtg wrote:

Hawaii Governor Neil Abercrombie said the public is more aware of the case because of its APEC connection but that the family in mourning should be the first priority.

"I don't think of it in terms of whether the death of someone else puts us in a bad light. Our first thought is for the victim and for his family and friends,” said Abercrombie.

Witnesses say Elderts had been yelling racial slurs prior to being shot in the chest.

A police statement that gets filed with the court detailing the crime and arrest will not be available until Deedy's district court appearance. That won't be held until after APEC on November 17th. Initial appearances are normally held within days of charging.



Hope the SA gets a fair trial.  But seriously though McDonald 3 in the morning? 

Not really much of a victim if you're a bully and yelling out racial slurs but that in itself doesn't meet the deadly force requirement and I'm sure racial slurs isn't life threatening. 

And if it was self defense it's still an uphill battle.

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#5 Posted : Monday, November 07, 2011 1:58:13 PM(UTC)
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Beagle1AD wrote:
jjmtg wrote:

Hawaii Governor Neil Abercrombie said the public is more aware of the case because of its APEC connection but that the family in mourning should be the first priority.

"I don't think of it in terms of whether the death of someone else puts us in a bad light. Our first thought is for the victim and for his family and friends,” said Abercrombie.

Witnesses say Elderts had been yelling racial slurs prior to being shot in the chest.

A police statement that gets filed with the court detailing the crime and arrest will not be available until Deedy's district court appearance. That won't be held until after APEC on November 17th. Initial appearances are normally held within days of charging.



Hope the SA gets a fair trial.  But seriously though McDonald 3 in the morning? 

Not really much of a victim if you're a bully and yelling out racial slurs but that in itself doesn't meet the deadly force requirement and I'm sure racial slurs isn't life threatening. 

And if it was self defense it's still an uphill battle.

I am sure there is more that what has been told by the media, some people are saying that the Hawaiian was a trouble maker but the family was claiming he was an angel.  Some say, the local guy followed the agent into McDonalds and others say the other way around.  Some say, the local Hawaiian had a knife, and the agent fired two warning shots, other say, the agent was just popping off shots.  There are four different videos so hopefully the case will play out and more information will be made available.
 
 
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#6 Posted : Monday, November 07, 2011 11:52:14 PM(UTC)
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There is too much information missing from what the press has released to make a judgement about anything. Hopefully the SA followed his force contiuum and force on force training. This type of situation may have happened to anyone LEO or CCW holder and is one of the scenarios that most dread being placed in. I can only hope that the video evidence and eye witness accounts can confirm his presumed innocence. It's a bad situation all around, for the SA and the victim's family.

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#7 Posted : Tuesday, November 08, 2011 3:57:51 AM(UTC)
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More information as of Tuesday, November 8, 2011 at 10:00 a.m Hawaii time.

 

http://www.staradvertiser.com/news/20111108_Federal_agent_is_free_on_bail_as_details_of_shooting_emerge.html?id=133422173

 

Federal agent is free on bail as details of shooting emerge


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Kailua resident Kollin Elderts bled to death after being shot once in the chest, a wound that also injured a lung, the city Department of the Medical Examiner said Monday.

Details of the violent conflict that took Elderts' life Saturday morning remained sketchy on the eve of the Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation summit, where Special Agent Christopher Deedy was to help provide security as leaders of 21 nations gather in Honolulu this week.

Deedy, who is charged with shooting Elderts at Waikiki's Kuhio Avenue McDonald's early Saturday morning, was released from police custody after posting $250,000 bail at about 4:30 a.m. Monday. He is scheduled to make his initial District Court appearance on Nov. 17 after being charged Sunday night with second-degree murder and the use of a firearm in the commission of a felony.

Police said Deedy, 27, shot and killed Elderts, 23, during a confrontation at the 24-hour McDonald's at about 2:44 a.m. Saturday.

The city Department of the Medical Examiner said that Elderts died of "exsanguination due to a gunshot wound to the chest with an injury to the lung." Coroners classified the manner of death as a homicide.

Deedy is an employee with the State Department's Bureau of Diplomatic Security, and has been placed on paid administrative leave.

Except for stating that an altercation among four men led to one man being shot dead with a single bullet, authorities have released no information about the circumstances surrounding the incident.

According to a source who wished to remain anonymous, two bullets were found in the ceiling and the wall of the McDonald's.

The source also told the Star-Advertiser that a pocketknife was recovered at the scene, but it is unknown to whom it belonged. The knife had blood on it, but no one was reported stabbed, the source said.

Additionally, the source said Deedy refused to take a blood alcohol test at the scene and that he appeared to have been drinking.

Michael Green, attorney for Elderts' family, said he did not believe the knife belonged to Elderts, based on information he has received from a friend of Elderts who was also at the McDonald's.

However, Green said, the altercation between Deedy and Elderts began and ended at McDonald's. Green had previously said the altercation began at a nightclub. Green said that initial story was an assumption Elderts' family had made.

Green said the Kalaheo High School graduate's best friend has given a statement to police and has told him that he and Elderts caught a cab to Waikiki late Friday after dinner with friends at SoHo Mixed Media Bar.

The friend said he and Elderts were briefly at a Waikiki karaoke club before going to the McDonald's, according to Green. While in the front of the line for food, Elderts was joking with employees behind the restaurant counter and noticed three men and a woman in the adjacent line looking serious, the friend told Green.

"There was a discussion between Kollin and that group, saying, 'How come you guys are not happy? Everybody's having a great time in here.' And then they had words exchanged," Green said. When Deedy threatened to shoot Elderts, Elderts invited him to do so, according to Green.

Green said the friend witnessed Deedy "karate kick" Elderts, dropping the younger man to the ground.

"Our client gets up, smacks the guy ... (there is) grappling ... and three shots go off," Green said.

A FEDERAL LAW enacted in 2004 allows qualified law enforcement officers to carry concealed weapons while off duty anywhere in the United States.

Among the qualifications is that the officer cannot be under the influence of alcohol or any intoxicating drug.

Alan Gano, a retired criminal investigator with U.S. Customs, said policies for federal agencies he's familiar with prohibit law enforcement officers from carrying weapons if they were drinking alcohol.

"You don't drink when you're armed," Gano said.

An exception, he added, would be an undercover officer who had to meet a contact at a bar as part of an undercover operation.

Gano retired from Customs in the 1990s but said policies prohibiting being armed while drinking still are intact. "That kind of stuff never changes," he said.

A spokesman for the State Department in Hawaii referred questions about its off-duty concealed weapons policy to a Washington, D.C., office, which was unable to address the questions Monday.

"This was a tragic incident in Hawaii over the weekend," State Department spokeswoman Victoria Nuland told reporters in the department's daily news breifing. "The circumstances of this case are under investigation."

Nuland said Deedy was assigned to "support protection of dignitaries for APEC."

She said there will be a separate investigation by the Justice Department's Office of Professional Responsibility. The department is cooperating with local authorities, Nuland added.

The State Department, through its Diplomatic Security Service, provides protection for foreign dignitaries -- except heads of state -- who are here for this week's APEC conferences. The Secret Service provides security details for heads of state, including President Barack Obama.

Neither agency would disclose how many agents are in Hawaii to protect the dignitaries.

"Our security measures are at the highest levels," said Max Milien, a Secret Service spokesman.

The foreign heads of state likely will come with their own security details to complement the U.S. personnel, according to Doug Runyon, managing partner for Dignitary Protection Group, an Indiana-based company that provides security for corporate executives, celebrities, professional athletes and politicians.

Some of the top corporate leaders here for APEC also are likely to bring security details, Runyon said. "This is a big, big deal," he said.

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#8 Posted : Wednesday, November 09, 2011 10:17:37 AM(UTC)
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If it's all true, doesn't look good. 
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#9 Posted : Thursday, November 10, 2011 2:16:14 PM(UTC)
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kalidawg8996 wrote:
If it's all true, doesn't look good. 
There's many things not yet known.  Hopefully the truth is revealed.
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