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#1 Posted : Friday, November 11, 2011 6:23:27 AM(UTC)

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Life took a very unfortunate turn last week!

I had applied for a language officer
job and got a call telling me that I was being considered for the job. Hurrah, right? What could go wrong?

When they asked me the question about
foreign contacts, I made sure to try to list everyone I had any
contact with, so they knew I wasn't trying to hide anything. Since
I'd studied abroad in Russia, I listed all my friends I'd made on the
program. One fellow I talk to nearly every other day, and I said I
had maybe 20-30 others who I talk to less than once a month, as well
at 10-20 in Norway and a couple in France/Poland. These are just friends I've met through studying abroad.

Alas, I got an email back saying that
due to my associations with these people I was denied further
consideration. When I asked which contacts caused the most problems, they said they had no idea, this person was just the middleman.


1. What is the cut off for foreign
contacts, or better, which of the above most likely caused the most problem: frequency of contact, number, etc...

2. I had an internship with the State
Department before, they didn't seem to care about my contacts, I got
my clearance no problem. Granted, it was a secret clearance. But, do
all TSIs have this stringent of a qualification? Since my only skill
set is foreign language (esp Russian) and international relations, would it be best to drop these friends for the sake of getting a job?

3. Are there any jobs that involve language/analysis that wouldn't have such strict foreign contact requirements? I have a feeling that the answer is no, but I'll shoot...

#2 Posted : Sunday, December 18, 2011 7:23:38 AM(UTC)

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I doubt there is a hard cutoff, but I can see why this may have happened to you:

1) Contacts from Russia and China are always of special concern.
2) Contacting a foreign national every day or two is very frequent, and shows a close relationship.
3) 20-30 is a very large number, and a few times a year is still keeping in touch.

None of that information is necessarily enough to warrant denying clearance.  Typically "foreign influence" denials for US-born applications are due to a foreign spouse or foreign parents/relatives.  My guess is NSA just didn't want to bother going through all the extra work to investigate and clear you, even though you would probably get cleared at the end of the day.

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