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So I recently started a position within DHS' NPPD component. Anyway, I have a clearance since my agency supports both the IC and the LEC. Anyway, a few weeks ago I met this girl and one thing led to another and we exchanged info. I asked her out and we're setting up our first date for this weekend. Turns out she's a national of China. If/when she asks about what I do how should I handle that? Also, when should I report this as a "foreign contact?" I'm concerned about the latter because I don't want to report her after one date, because well it's only one date it could go nowhere from there. Anyway, I appreciate your advice.
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First and foremost, you need to take this issue extremely seriously. I don't know whether one "date" is is cause to take action, and there certainly is no rule in the adjudication guidelines stating that one can't date a foreign national (many people married to foreign nationals do indeed get clearance). However, intimate relationships with foreign nationals of, in particular, China, Russia and various Middle Eastern countries "known to target US citizens for intelligence gathering" have ruined the lives of many security-cleared employees. The sooner you bring this up with your FSO the better, especially so if the first date leads to a second or third. If he/she suddenly finds out 2 years from now than you are engaged to a citizen of China, there is a very real risk that you will be put in a position where you must choose between your job career and your relationship.
Stay smart.
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It's exactly how it would look if a Chinese spy was looking to work you for intel. Or she just might be a nice girl.
The security folks will take the former view.
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Say you're an analyst for the government, and if she pries, say the IRS. Then dump her.
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I immediately notified my security manager when I was dating a foriegn national (China), again immediately when I decided to propose a few years later, and again once we got married several years ago. Prior to every trip to China I also notified my security manager via email (auditable) when booking airfare, met my security manager prior to leaving, and again met my security manger after returning. All meetings were followed up with emails detailing what was said. It may sound like over-kill, but my TS is still in good standing because I go out of my way to be as up front as possible. If you have a TS they may ask you for names, addresses, passport #s of not only your girlfriend but also her immediate relatives. I gave them all that and whatever else I thought would help.
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Seriously? What if your classmates/friends are foreigners and you talked to them and go to movies with them?
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Safest thing, don't date her and find a good old American girl.
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Winter2010 wrote:
Seriously? What if your classmates/friends are foreigners and you talked to them and go to movies with them?
Required to report all contacts that are of a close, continuing personal association, characterized by ties of kinship, affection, or obligation with foreign nationals. Foreign contact reporting is not intended to inhibit or discourage contact with foreign nationals. Rather, it permits the government to manage the risk posed by certain foreign collectors who seek to exploit personal relationships for purposes of collecting classified or sensative information. Too often notification of contact with a foreign national happens only after an issue has arisen. Having contact with foreigners isn't bad; however not reporting it is a violation of security requirements. Personnel with SCI or other accesses have more strict reporting requirements. A classmate in general does not need to be reported, but if you go to movies and continue to meet with them in a social enviroment, yes they need to be reported. My answers here are from the security officer point of view.
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You probably don't need to report it immediately, but it'd be a
very good idea (to safeguard your clearance, and thus, your job) to
report it promptly (like sooner rather than later).
You say you've already 'exchanged information' and are setting up a
date, so it's clear that the contact could be classified as 'close and
continuing' - generally the point at which contact with a foreign
national needs to be reported to your FSO.
Indy_phal has this right - you need to take this extremely seriously, and be CI conscious. You work in a position that requires you to have a clearance, and if you put that clearance in jeopardy, you're putting your job at risk too. Be sure that you keep your head on straight and read between the lines about what is asked of you (by her or anyone else). As tempting as it is to impress your girlfriend, friends or family with what you do, that's really none of their business. I wouldn't advise lying about who you work for, but there are ways to couch your job in generic terms - an "analyst for the government" is usually a safe bet.
Be safe, be careful, and keep your wits about you.
Good luck!
DrSimoh2011-11-18 13:13:20
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Just don't let her take any naked photos of you in compromising poses or embarrassing adult role-play attire. If you do, be sure to get copies of those photos sent to your supervisors immediately - perhaps even CC the whole office just to ensure compliance and your willingness to be honest.
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