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rev1ddv2  
#61 Posted : Tuesday, January 31, 2012 3:01:21 PM(UTC)

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Congrats DC2.  Sounds like you are finalized.  Seeing the changes to your OPM page is a definite sign that you are retired.  A few days after my husband saw the changes to his, he received his blue book.  Now the fun really begins and the waiting is over once you get your back pay. Enjoy! Enjoy! Enjoy!
DC2  
#62 Posted : Tuesday, January 31, 2012 9:43:39 PM(UTC)

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tigerseye wrote:


Well DC2, see what happens when you post here. Ha.  If all that information was on the OPM website, then you should also look in your banking account for the catch up payment. You are final.


(And I thought this board was anonymous )
Yesterday was the 89th day since I retired so I didn't have long to wait.

I was able to put in withholding for my state taxes yesterday. I just used my estimate for figuring out how much since I don't have my final figures from my blue book. I wanted to get the state tax withholding done because if I don't make the cutoff in time for March's annuity then I will have to divide the taxes owed by 9 months instead of 10.
tigerseye  
#63 Posted : Wednesday, February 1, 2012 7:22:12 AM(UTC)

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FYI, the Oversight of Government Management Subcommittee (U.S. Senate Homeland Security and Government Affairs Committee) held a hearing this afternoon on OPM's performance in retirement application processing and modernization of their IT systems. You can obtain copies of the testimony and watch the hearing (155 minutes) on the Internet at: http://www.hsgac.senate.gov/subcommittees/oversight-of-government-management/hearings/federal-retirement-processing-ensuring-proper-and-timely-payments

bbcinc  
#64 Posted : Wednesday, February 1, 2012 12:12:30 PM(UTC)

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Topic: Moving a portion of adjudication responsibility to the Agencies.


Not a big fan of this, no one in this 155 minute discussion
addressed that HR at the agencies has been cut back over the years (my personal
experience is AF BEST, an almost totally automated HR system covering all AF civilians) and interaction with potential
retirees has been reduced to the point that HR never initiates anything and
instead only responds to routine transactions and may not respond at all to non-routine ones.


OPM is concerned that the current error rate in calculations
done at the agency are at an average 20% level for 2011, thus their desire to keep adjudication in-house.


There were several suggestions to more actively involve
potential retirees in the process while they are still working, especially to
help with service information since records de-archiving is so time consuming to the processors.


OPM is hiring 60+ new processors.


One year lag for full operational capability. 3 months
initial training, another 3 months for working with a mentor and then 6 more
months until they are at FOC, able to work by themselves. 12 personnel now on Performance Improvement Plans and could be let go.


Obsolete Processing IT.


Some current software written in COBOL, an estimated 3
million lines of code. Due to the complexity of adapting about 500 laws to the attempted
Commercial Off-The-Shelf modified software solution, the Retire EZ project
failed in 2009 and was totally abandoned. A commenting senator would like to
see a 3-5 year timeframe for revisiting the automated solution to processing.
The outside consultant would also like to see automation revived since OPMs
hiring addition bodies is, at best, only a temporary fix and not consistent with leveraging technology.


The current backlog of cases is now at 60,000 due to the usual December surge of retirements.


General comments.


Lots of references to “dog and dogging it” -- is this a new catch-phrase for actually doing something in a timely manner in the gov’t?


Hope I hit the main highlights…


68gto  
#65 Posted : Wednesday, February 1, 2012 6:40:13 PM(UTC)

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HR at the agencies may do a reasonably good job on estimates for CSRS but when it comes to FERS Supplement they are not equipped to handle the coordination necessary to get the appropriate SS info and make the required (complex) calculations.

Looks like the vast majority (poll) are between 6 months and a year.  Call it a 9 month average to finalization?



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#66 Posted : Wednesday, February 1, 2012 10:11:03 PM(UTC)

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HR at the agencies may do a reasonably good job on estimates for CSRS but when it comes to FERS Supplement they are not equipped to handle the coordination necessary to get the appropriate SS info and make the required (complex) calculations.

Looks like the vast majority (poll) are between 6 months and a year.  Call it a 9 month average to finalization?





I think that's high. It looks to me, based on the June and July groups, more like 6-7 months on average, though there are clearly those greater than that, as well as many less than that.
tigerseye  
#67 Posted : Thursday, February 2, 2012 1:19:58 AM(UTC)

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Hard to say where the numbers are Gettingclose. The new bulge of December retirement will probably set them back again. If you believe OPM, its getting better, but  I'm wondering how OPM is reporting out the statistics for these hearings and audit reports that clearly sound much better than what we are seeing on federalsoup threads. Senator Warner's comments about a constituent only getting a $17 interim for 10 months, and another on interims for 17 months show that this is still a nightmare for some of us.

In my own case, even tho I spoke with my assigned processor in September, the 1-888 Service Rep kept telling me that in her system the processor had been assigned a full month later. The processor backdated a notification on my SS offset amount to December 1 (a date that my entire file was not on her desk and was in audit); the notification was sent to me in January after she got back from vacation (my file sat on her desk untended for all but 3 days in the month of December according to Service Rep dates in their system, and the message on the processor's answering machine when she went away for Christmas). Magical thinking and accounting. 

And Bbcinc, I agree that the HR offices are in shambles. We had one part-time contractor who handled all the DC area retirements for my agency. A competent lady, impossible to speak to without an appointment, obviously overworked, and getting ready to retire herself. Even tho I had made an appointment to hand in my closeout papers to her on my last day, she wasn't in and I had to go from desk to desk to find someone (a supervisor) willing to sign off that I had turned everything in. Wow !

Vern267  
#68 Posted : Thursday, February 2, 2012 8:48:02 AM(UTC)

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Date of retirement: 31 December 2011
2) Weeks to receive A/L: 1 week
3) Weeks to receive Buyout $ if applicable: same time, one week
4) Weeks to receive interem and %%% of pay: not received anything yet
5) Months to complete: 60+ days and counting
6) OPM processing by D.C. or Boyers, PA: Don't know
7) FERS or CSRS: CSRS
8.) Am I unhappy: HELL YES


Chris Mattingly  
#69 Posted : Thursday, February 2, 2012 9:46:37 AM(UTC)
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Retired June 3rd from the FS/CRCS and still have not been finalized. They said they were running up to a year?!Sleepy
getting close  
#70 Posted : Thursday, February 2, 2012 6:26:34 PM(UTC)

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Retired June 3rd from the FS/CRCS and still have not been finalized. They said they were running up to a year?!Sleepy
That's terrible. Have you done anything other than calling Customer Service to get attention to you application? A number of us who retired the same day as you have long since been finalized.
CJWarren  
#71 Posted : Thursday, February 2, 2012 11:06:12 PM(UTC)
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I retired 12/31/11 and haven't heard anything from OPM.  I did receive my buyout money, which was a lot less than expected.  I am CSRS Offset and they took a chunk for Social Security as well as a huge amount for taxes.  However, I am happy that I received it since my annual leave and interim payments have not arrived yet.  HappilyRetiree20112012-02-03 07:19:56
sjs25  
#72 Posted : Friday, February 3, 2012 12:23:26 AM(UTC)

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I retired 12/31/11 and did get my CSA#, but nothing else. FERS.  I did not get a letter with interim anniuty information. I did not get the interim payment on 2/1/12.  I did not receive a password. And I have not received my A/L lump sum payment.  I've been watching the posts on this site and I may not be the only one that didn't get the interim payment on time.  I'm a little disappointed to say the least.Ouch
Marilyn Lattimer  
#73 Posted : Friday, February 3, 2012 3:04:59 AM(UTC)
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@Fed1986 - I also retired 12/31/11 and did get my CSA#, but I have not gotten the password yet nor my first interim payment either.  I did get my AL lump sum from my agency (the VA), it was on my final paycheck so you should contact your agency about that.  That's what I'm paying bills with until everything gets settled. 
sjs25  
#74 Posted : Friday, February 3, 2012 6:25:29 AM(UTC)

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I was told my AL would be included in my last paycheck which was on 1/6/12.  A whole month later and I still do not have it.  I need it to pay bills, too.  I've been patient, but Monday I will be contacting HR as this is ridiculous.  Thanks for the info.  It feels a little better when you aren't the only one that didn't get the interim payment on time.
dsouper  
#75 Posted : Friday, February 3, 2012 7:46:55 PM(UTC)

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I haven't received my interim pmt. either.  As long as I get that, I'll feel more settled.  Getting the final won't be as much of a concern, especially since I figure the net pmt. will be close to the interim net pmt.  Watching all these posts for the past couple of years, it looks like that's probably the norm, since they have to take out for insurance, etc. in the final.  I imagine my final will be way down the road because I'm offset and they'll have to get info from SSA in their process.  UnhappyWell, you know, SSA is an agency going through cutbacks, too.  So, that would surely add to the factors of finalizing.  C'est la vie.Wink
tigerseye  
#76 Posted : Friday, February 3, 2012 11:38:19 PM(UTC)

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It's starting to look like the OPM has been hit with the new bulge of recent retirees Dec. 31/Jan 1 based on the number of you who have not yet received word on your interims. OPM seems to do a decent job of sending that first payment, so you may just have to wait them out.  As I've passed on in other threads, you can call their retirement line at 1-888-767-6738 when they open up at 7:30 eastern (best bet is Tues-Friday) to avoid a long wait or hangups, and ask when and if they've logged in your file. Calling your old agency's HR department should also give you the date your file was sent to OPM and help find out what happened to your AL cash conversion if you've not received it yet.
 
Dsouper, if your file is handled like mine (also CSRS offset) last fall, you may get a notice once your file is assigned to a processor that you are subject to the SS offset and that OPM has requested information on your SS benefits. SSA's response can take a month or more as they send a printout (only once a month) of all the OPM requested CSRS offset retirees with the calculation of benefits with and without government service.  Although my SS benefits started right away like clockwork, they've been downright miserable in bombarding me with letters and inaccurate decisions on my benefits I've had to appeal over the last year. Just last week they informed me I had an appointment to meet with them to discuss my Medicare (???) even tho I'm not enrolled or eligible for another 2 years, and to bring in a slew of original documents (marriage license, divorce decree, tax returns, paystubs, etc.); when I got there first thing that morning they told me they sent the letter by mistake.....
 
Cheeseman  
#77 Posted : Sunday, February 5, 2012 6:47:05 AM(UTC)
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I also retired on 12/31/11, FERS LEO and received my A/L, my CSA # from OPM on 01/27/11 and nothing else, as of 02/05/12 no password and no first interim payment.

“The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.” Margaret Thatcher<br /><br />"Government is not the solution to our problems; government is the problem." Ronald Reagan
Vern267  
#78 Posted : Sunday, February 5, 2012 9:15:33 PM(UTC)

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same thing except I am CSRS. Called OPM and they told me that still waiting on paperwork- after 60 days?

Jane Dingus  
#79 Posted : Sunday, February 5, 2012 10:21:25 PM(UTC)
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1) Date of retirement:  3 SEP 2011
2) Weeks to receive A/L:  2
3) Weeks to receive Buyout $ if applicable:  2
4) Weeks to receive interem and %%% of pay:  3 months
5) Months to complete:  still waiting
6) OPM processing by D.C. or Boyers, PA:  DC
7) FERS or CSRS:  CSRS-Offset


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#80 Posted : Sunday, February 5, 2012 11:25:05 PM(UTC)

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Vern267, OPM still waiting on paperwork? Not a good scenario. OPM should have gotten your file within a month after you cleared out your desk. Give a call to your old HR office pronto !!! Good luck... 
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