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IndeRanger  
#1 Posted : Tuesday, January 17, 2012 11:21:40 PM(UTC)
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Hello Everyone,
 
I received this as a result of my application to a job with the Dept of Ed:
 

EL        You are eligible for this specialty and grade.  

 

I'm thrilled to be eligible, but not quite sure what it means. I thought that all categories were "qualified," "highly qualified," etc.

 

Is this a new designation?

 

Thanks!

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#2 Posted : Wednesday, January 18, 2012 12:43:25 AM(UTC)
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 I received a status of "eligible - not referred".  Not sure what that means either.  Talk about confusing.
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#3 Posted : Wednesday, January 18, 2012 1:05:51 AM(UTC)
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not sure if this is correct or not but I think it means you made it on the list but you might or nught not be high enough to referr.
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#4 Posted : Wednesday, January 18, 2012 1:46:57 AM(UTC)
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Oh brother. "Eligible - not referred" in the same sentence. That IS confusing. Mine just said "eligible."
 
It does make sense to be eligible and not high enough to make a better list.
 
I guess time will tell, and that's when I'll get my answer.
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TS65  
#5 Posted : Wednesday, January 18, 2012 1:57:44 AM(UTC)
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Being eligible doesn't mean you are qualified, it just means you meet the minimum standard for that grade. You get referred if you fall into the highest category of qualified.
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#6 Posted : Wednesday, January 18, 2012 2:34:21 AM(UTC)
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TS65 wrote:
Being eligible doesn't mean you are qualified, it just means you meet the minimum standard for that grade. You get referred if you fall into the highest category of qualified.
 
So, I meet the minimum standards and I'm definitely not qualified. Ok. Well I didn't feel like taking the train into Philadelphia every day anyway. So there.   :o)
 
Thanks everyone for responding!
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#7 Posted : Wednesday, January 18, 2012 3:43:58 AM(UTC)
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Eligible means you met the minimum standard of the position.  When application come, HR determines if the applicant meets the minimum standard of the position.  Applications are sorted into two stacks, eligible and not eligible.

The next step is ranking the eligible applications, generally on some sort of point system.  Only those with the most points make the cert.  They are determined qualified or highly qualified.

 Many times only the highly qualified applications make it to the selecting official.  The selecting official can request more application and they would get the top of the qualified stack.
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#8 Posted : Wednesday, January 18, 2012 8:20:38 PM(UTC)
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Fed1969 wrote:
Eligible means you met the minimum standard of the position.  When application come, HR determines if the applicant meets the minimum standard of the position.  Applications are sorted into two stacks, eligible and not eligible.

The next step is ranking the eligible applications, generally on some sort of point system.  Only those with the most points make the cert.  They are determined qualified or highly qualified.

 Many times only the highly qualified applications make it to the selecting official.  The selecting official can request more application and they would get the top of the qualified stack.
 
I thought there was a missing piece in this. Being eligible is just the beginning. What threw me, was that in a previous result from an application, I was "qualified," and didn't get any kind of "eligible" message.
 
I'll wait and see and also keep applying.
 
Thank you!
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#9 Posted : Wednesday, January 18, 2012 9:43:19 PM(UTC)
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The more you apply, the greater your chances.

Wish you the best.
IndeRanger  
#10 Posted : Thursday, January 19, 2012 11:47:22 PM(UTC)
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Thanks, that's just what I'll do!
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#11 Posted : Friday, January 20, 2012 2:03:28 AM(UTC)
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I'll make it more confusing.  You can be qualified but not eligible.  Eligible means more than just your level of qualification.  It means you meet all the requirements (you are within the area of consideration, you meet any age requirements, you've met any selective factors, etc.).  You can be qualified and not referred as well, since generally only best or well qualified applicants are referred.  You can meet the minimum qualifications but not meet time-in-grade requirements, making you ineligible if the position is subject to time in grade.

You can make yourself ineligible by failing to follow the directions for applying for the job in the announcement, failing to upload a required supporting document, or leaving out information on your resume.  In that case, you could most certainly be qualified but it wouldn't matter since you are ineligble.
 
If you don't meet the minimum qualifications, you are ineligible.
 
Getting referred means you are over the cut-off to get referred (best or well qualified) and you are eligible.  Education alone, for instance, may qualify you without making you best or well qualified.  If you don't meet the cut-off, you would get the notification that you are eligible-not referred. 
IndeRanger  
#12 Posted : Friday, January 20, 2012 3:54:01 AM(UTC)
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Actually, that wasn't confusing. I realize that I looking at "eligible" and "qualified" too linearly. One doesn't mean the other.
 
Of the three positions to which I've applied, I never saw the designation "referred." I was "qualified," "eligible" and nothing - I never heard anything from one of the positions.
 
Anyway, you did explain this very well and it makes so much sense now!
 
Thank you. 
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#13 Posted : Friday, January 20, 2012 4:31:41 AM(UTC)
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Usually you see an "Eligible" or "Qualified" without any referral information when you've applied to an open continuous announcement or one used to create a standing register of names.  It means based on your answers, you appear to be eligible in case someone wants to pull names for a certificate.  It is possible that your resume won't actually be reviewed until you make the cut for a certificate; at that point someone will look over your resume and supporting documents to see if you are truly best qualified.
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#14 Posted : Friday, January 20, 2012 6:52:11 AM(UTC)
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KeyLimePie wrote:
Usually you see an "Eligible" or "Qualified" without any referral information when you've applied to an open continuous announcement or one used to create a standing register of names.  It means based on your answers, you appear to be eligible in case someone wants to pull names for a certificate.  It is possible that your resume won't actually be reviewed until you make the cut for a certificate; at that point someone will look over your resume and supporting documents to see if you are truly best qualified.

A lot of times, electronic resumes are reviewed by a computer looking for key words.
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#15 Posted : Monday, January 23, 2012 1:33:08 AM(UTC)
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Under hiring reform, those computerized keyword searches are going away.  If you've answered an occupational questionnaire on through Application Manager, your answers to the questions are the direct method of determining your score.  Then an actual person reviews your resume and supporting documents to determine whether or not your score was inflated or supported.  Your resume should still include enough detail to support your answer (yes, even key words) but it isn't necessary to guess at what those details are.  They are found in the assessment questions and in the job announcement.  The old strategy of working every keyword you can imagine into your resume isn't applicable anymore.  Instead, your resume should be tailored to the individual job announcement so you don't hide the best, most relevant information among key words for a computer scan.
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#16 Posted : Monday, January 23, 2012 4:29:42 AM(UTC)
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Well, I received my answer today. Though I'm eligible, I'm not highly qualified so I won't be referred. The wording all makes sense now! 
 
Thanks for explaining the keyword business.
 
I'm still glad to be eligible. Really. I just wish there jobs out there where I could do proofreading and light copyediting, as opposed to editing and writing (I love proofreading and fact checking better than writing - though that doesn't mean that I'm not working on the great American novel or short story).
 
I'll keep looking; perhaps my answer lies outside of the fed govt, though I sincerely hope that's not the case.
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#17 Posted : Monday, January 23, 2012 5:06:56 AM(UTC)
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One thing to keep in mind is that the cut-offs in part depend on the pool of applicants.  If the top category is too small, the top two categories may be combined.  So a person in the second category group might not be among the best qualified in one recruitment only to get referred as best qualified in another, depending on the competition.
 
If you are answering that you don't have any experience or training in most of the assessment areas, you aren't likely to get very far in the recruitment unless it is truly an entry level position.  If you are doing some of the tasks independently but not all of them, you are likely to fall in the middle and it is worth applying while trying to build your skill set and specialized experience in the position you currently hold.
 
Personally, I don't consider applying for jobs unless I can answer that I've done the task independently for at least half of the statements.  If I see a job that I'd love but I don't think I'd be a competitive applicant (or if I get the eligible-not referred notice), I print a copy of the announcement with the assessment questions as a guide to the types of developmental activities I should be seeking in my current position.
IndeRanger  
#18 Posted : Tuesday, January 24, 2012 3:22:43 AM(UTC)
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Very intelligent answer. Thanks.
 
I focused especially on this: <<Personally, I don't consider applying for jobs unless I can answer that I've done the task independently for at least half of the statements.>>
 
I think that in my effort to apply to everything out there that remotely touches on the smallest percentage of my experience, I'm applying for positions that are a little out of my league. The Public Affairs Specialist position, while it was labeled "entry level," still required someone to write brochures and pamphlets aimed at different populations. True, I'd love to learn how to do this, but I've never done it before. I realized that what I could offer that position was a great deal of interest and a strong desire to learn. They were looking for practical experience.
 
Forever onward!
 
Thanks again.
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