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USAF  
#1 Posted : Wednesday, February 22, 2012 9:37:44 PM(UTC)

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The Coast Guard is not under Dept of Defense, nor is it an active military force. the Coast Guard was under Dept of Transportation; then post-911, they were moved under Homeland Security. They are more or less border agents or a rescue service for America's waterways. They shouldn't even be deployed outside of the country as their tasks are in country. So, why are they entitled to military Veterans Benefits from the Veterans Administration? One rule to be eligible for VA benefits is to have served 180 days on military active duty, which the CG clearly does not do.USAF2012-02-23 05:45:50
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#2 Posted : Wednesday, February 22, 2012 10:19:40 PM(UTC)
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look up the mission objectives of the CG.

Do some research into the military codes.

You will find that the CG not only goes on joint missions with the other dod units but they can be and have been folded into the navy when needed. I doubt if anyone from USDA or FDIC or any other can do the same. Also CG have rotations beyond US borders (unlike your "more or less border agents..."). They have graduates from their own academy as well as the naval academy and have representation at the pentagon. The list is long. And someone who is CG can give you the codes.  but just know...

CG IS A MILITARY BRANCH
USAF  
#3 Posted : Wednesday, February 22, 2012 10:43:59 PM(UTC)

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Coast Guard is not a military branch! It's mission is funded by domestic funds for domestic duties. Why use CG for Navy missions? Rarely do you see a CG seal on active duty bases, if at all. Sounds like they are placing a federal domestic guard beyond U.S. coastal borders replacing Navy duties. Why have a Navy? CG doesn't operate or get stationed elsewhere like the 4 military branches do. Coast Guard gets assignments only in the U.S. Do you find CG bases in Germany, Korea, Japan, Italy, or England? No! Because those countries have their own CGWink CG is Homeland Security, not DoD. When you join other branches if prior CG, your service date and rank do not cross over with you. You can't even wear any CG ribbons or awards because they were not awarded by DoD Armed Forces.
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#4 Posted : Wednesday, February 22, 2012 10:59:21 PM(UTC)

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Funny how a supposed 24 year veteran doesn't have a clue about joint operations. There are many units of the Navy that have Coast Guard personnel attached to them. Also, Coast Guard ships and planes go overseas on deployments with Navy groups and they go on ships doing drug enforcement operations. And guess what? There are Coast Guard personnel on the ground in Afghanistan right now!
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#5 Posted : Thursday, February 23, 2012 12:03:11 AM(UTC)
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Not only can you not recognize a hybrid organization but more important, you've made no effort to educate yourself. This is the last post I will make on the matter. Go do your reading.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Coast_Guard
The Coast Guard's legal authority differs from the other four armed services: it operates simultaneously under Title 10 of the United States Code
and its other organic authorities, e.g., Titles 6, 14, 19, 33, 46, etc. Because of its legal authority, the Coast Guard can conduct military operations under the Department of Defense or directly for the President in accordance with Title 14 USC 1–3.



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#6 Posted : Thursday, February 23, 2012 12:31:36 AM(UTC)

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CG is not military!  They are law enforcement; as well as, search and rescue for our home coastal waterways. VA benefits should be reserved for those who served in the armed forces. Not Homeland Security. Coast Guard was constitutionally instituted to guard America's coastline and operate lighthouses. It was never intended to be utilized as an international armed military service.
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#7 Posted : Thursday, February 23, 2012 1:12:49 AM(UTC)
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USAF wrote:
CG is not military!  They are law enforcement; as well as, search and rescue for our home coastal waterways. VA benefits should be reserved for those who served in the armed forces. Not Homeland Security. Coast Guard was constitutionally instituted to guard America's coastline and operate lighthouses. It was never intended to be utilized as an international armed military service.
 
You're an idiot. 
The have contractual enlistments.  They are a uniformed armed service.  They get active duty IDs and a DD 214.  They have a service academy for their officers.  If in a joint operation, if the Coast Guard Officer is most senior then they have the overall authority:
 
From title 10, USC:
 
  TITLE 10--ARMED FORCES

                    Subtitle A--General Military Law

                           PART II--PERSONNEL

                      CHAPTER 43--RANK AND COMMAND


Sec. 747. Command: when different commands of Army, Navy, Air
        Force, Marine Corps, and Coast Guard join
       
    When different commands of the Army, Navy, Air Force, Marine Corps,
and Coast Guard join or serve together, the officer highest in rank in
the Army, Navy, Air Force, Marine Corps, or Coast Guard on duty there,
who is otherwise eligible to command, commands all those forces unless
otherwise directed by the President.

I know your just a troll trying to stir the pot.
 
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#8 Posted : Thursday, February 23, 2012 1:20:27 AM(UTC)

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www.uscg.com? NOPE!!!
 
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#9 Posted : Thursday, February 23, 2012 1:21:18 AM(UTC)

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Consider the OP.....
 
He can't even lie correctly....check out his previous posts!
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#10 Posted : Thursday, February 23, 2012 1:22:38 AM(UTC)

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The U.S. Coast Guard is one of the five armed forces of the United States and the only military organization within the Department of Homeland Security. Since 1790 the Coast Guard has safeguarded our Nation's maritime interests and environment around the world. The Coast Guard is an adaptable, responsive military force of maritime professionals whose broad legal authorities, capable assets, geographic diversity and expansive partnerships provide a persistent presence along our rivers, in the ports, littoral regions and on the high seas. Coast Guard presence and impact is local, regional, national and international. These attributes make the Coast Guard a unique instrument of maritime safety, security and environmental stewardship.

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#11 Posted : Thursday, February 23, 2012 1:24:56 AM(UTC)

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Scotter....Since they are not military....I double dog dare you to tell a Coast Guard Chief they aren't a real Chief!!!! LOLOuch
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#12 Posted : Thursday, February 23, 2012 1:52:45 AM(UTC)
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Scotter....Since they are not military....I double dog dare you to tell a Coast Guard Chief they aren't a real Chief!!!! LOLOuch
 
 
When I was stationed in NOLA I lived at the NAS JRB in Belle Chase.  There is a Coast Guard station there as well.  We had many of thier Chiefs as part of our CPOA.
 
I even got me a couple Coast Guard Chief coins in my collectionWink.
 
USAF=Newgrad.
 
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#13 Posted : Thursday, February 23, 2012 3:33:17 AM(UTC)
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USAF wrote:
The Coast Guard is not under Dept of Defense, nor is it an active military force. the Coast Guard was under Dept of Transportation; then post-911, they were moved under Homeland Security. They are more or less border agents or a rescue service for America's waterways. They shouldn't even be deployed outside of the country as their tasks are in country. So, why are they entitled to military Veterans Benefits from the Veterans Administration? One rule to be eligible for VA benefits is to have served 180 days on military active duty, which the CG clearly does not do.

 

The Coast Guard is established under the same US Code as the other services, but is placed under other control than DOD because their actions in international waters would be an act of war if conducted by the US Military. 

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posse_Comitatus_Act

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#14 Posted : Thursday, February 23, 2012 6:48:22 AM(UTC)

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Public Health Service, NOAA, and Filipino Scouts are also eligible for VA benefits.
Go government!
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#15 Posted : Thursday, February 23, 2012 6:52:48 AM(UTC)

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On my first deployment to the middle east the coast guard was patrolling the port.

If at first you don't succeed, get a bigger hammer.
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#16 Posted : Thursday, February 23, 2012 12:41:33 PM(UTC)
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One of Newgrads deep plant screen names. The CG is not a branch of the .MIL? Give it a break fool!
 
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#17 Posted : Thursday, February 23, 2012 1:48:02 PM(UTC)

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USAF wrote:
The Coast Guard is not under Dept of Defense, nor is it an active military force. the Coast Guard was under Dept of Transportation; then post-911, they were moved under Homeland Security. They are more or less border agents or a rescue service for America's waterways. They shouldn't even be deployed outside of the country as their tasks are in country. So, why are they entitled to military Veterans Benefits from the Veterans Administration? One rule to be eligible for VA benefits is to have served 180 days on military active duty, which the CG clearly does not do.
 
You come out of hiding to post this BS.  Lady you need to get a life.
 
The CG is part of the military.  The United States agrees with me LOL
 
The only ones that are going to believe you is all your honorable "vet" friends you got on this forum.
 
Plus which VA benefits are you talking about cause if a person got injuried on the 11th day of training then yes they are eligible for VA benefits.  So there goes your blanket statement of 180 days.
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#18 Posted : Thursday, February 23, 2012 10:49:14 PM(UTC)
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I find it laughable that someone from the Air Force is talking crap about the Coast Guard when 9 out of 10 times the Coastie will see way more action than an Airman will watch on the History Channel while sitting in Montana earning a Bronze Star.... I spent 20+ years in the Marine Corps and have worked with all services to include the Coast Guard and when we were not at war they were seeing more action doing drug interdictions on a daily basis than all the services. They were intergrated into the last ARG I was on and did ops everyday on the Iraqi coast. 
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#19 Posted : Thursday, February 23, 2012 11:55:25 PM(UTC)

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This troll is not and never has been in the Air Force.  Don't be fooled by trolls.
Forum trolls to 0%
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#20 Posted : Friday, February 24, 2012 1:17:46 AM(UTC)

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2210again: At least my ASVAB scores were high enough to get into the Air Force and keep me from being a "jarhead"! Clap Air Force recruiter probably gave you an Army or Marine recruiter business card and sent you on your way.
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