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drb3  
#1 Posted : Sunday, April 01, 2012 11:10:36 PM(UTC)
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saw this buried in a story about 10 new FEHB plans (3rd paragraph)
wonder if the 600 new organizations are all the casinos around the country

http://federaldaily.com/articles/2012/03/30/fehb-to-add-new-plans-in-2013.aspx?s=FD_020412


Redbugdave  
#2 Posted : Sunday, April 22, 2012 1:20:13 AM(UTC)
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I wonder how much more my share will go up to cover this? I believe they don't pay federal taxes...is that right?

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#3 Posted : Sunday, April 22, 2012 4:51:45 AM(UTC)
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O’Brien also noted that the FEHB is adding “a whole new population to
serve” under the Affordable Care Act, which allows tribes and tribal
organizations to buy health coverage for their employees through the FEHB.
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don't know the answer to the tax issue, but "their employees" are not necessarily Native Americans. "IF" the organizations referred to are casinos, some of them employ thousands


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#4 Posted : Monday, April 30, 2012 1:47:48 PM(UTC)
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When I worked for a tribe I paid fed taxes on my earnings
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#5 Posted : Monday, April 30, 2012 9:25:20 PM(UTC)
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It's a crock of bs.
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#6 Posted : Tuesday, May 01, 2012 1:13:22 PM(UTC)
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I know in a small community south of Redmond, Washington - Auburn, which is actually on Muckleshoot property - the last time I was there one man sat in his car with his arms crossed - I mentioned this to the store clerk - he said he was a Chief, and would not come into the store unit the other Chief had left - they were not taxed on some things - If Medicare goes to FEHB who is going to carry it - they are slowly eroding the fed employee - our pay - our benefits - no wonder they are having problems recruiting college graduates in highly skilled positions - ```
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#7 Posted : Monday, May 07, 2012 11:34:00 AM(UTC)
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If I remember correctly, the "Native AMERICANS" were here first.
The Europeans moved in,  took over, sold their land, and instituted taxes as a means of support.
Enslaved people to build the land and more....

I support native Americans.

Those who do not ? Well, maybe they should go back to "Their" Homeland.

Sorry if I hurt some feelings, but, it is what it is.

No regrets on my statement. I stand by it.




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drb3  
#8 Posted : Monday, May 07, 2012 10:50:13 PM(UTC)
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why the rant? don't think I see any disparaging statements about Native Americans. the topic is the statement that "O’Brien also noted that the FEHB is adding “a whole new population to
serve” under the Affordable Care Act, which allows tribes and tribal
organizations to buy health coverage for their employees through the FEHB." and the "possibility" that it means casino employees around the country, which could number in the tens (hundreds?) of thousands of new people into the FEHB system.

that could be a good thing, right? might that not lower premium prices on some coverages?


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#9 Posted : Monday, May 07, 2012 11:00:35 PM(UTC)
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HB-  Actually the "Native Americans"  were not originally native either.  They came form Asia.  

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#10 Posted : Tuesday, May 08, 2012 1:46:26 AM(UTC)
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The HalfBreed wrote:
If I remember correctly, the "Native AMERICANS" were here first.
 
Land doesn't really "belong" to anyone. 
 
History shows that it is only borrowed temporarily by those strong enough (or or rich enough) to take it and keep it.
 
Who did the native Americans take it from before we took it from them?
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#11 Posted : Tuesday, May 08, 2012 2:13:40 AM(UTC)
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I agree they were wronged and measures were and continue to be taken to compensate for that  shameful treatment.  But, when is enough enough?
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#12 Posted : Tuesday, May 08, 2012 5:59:22 AM(UTC)
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The HalfBreed wrote:
If I remember correctly, the "Native AMERICANS" were here first.
The Europeans moved in,  took over, sold their land, and instituted taxes as a means of support.
Enslaved people to build the land and more....

I support native Americans.

Those who do not ? Well, maybe they should go back to "Their" Homeland.

Sorry if I hurt some feelings, but, it is what it is.

No regrets on my statement. I stand by it.


 
 
What the heck does anything you said in your post have to do with why Native Americans should be enititled to receive FEDERAL EMPLOYEES HEALTH BENEFITS?  If they are not Federal Empoyees, what the hell is your reasoning???  I have nothing against American Indians, but they should not get FEHB unless they are Federal Employees.  Put that in your pipe and smoke it!  lol
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#13 Posted : Tuesday, May 08, 2012 10:23:35 AM(UTC)
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dhacker56 wrote:
HB-  Actually the "Native Americans"  were not originally native either.  They came form Asia.  


Well, IMO, if they greeted Columbus, they were here first. Didn't ya get the memo ?
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The HalfBreed  
#14 Posted : Tuesday, May 08, 2012 10:26:39 AM(UTC)
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martyb wrote:
 
What the heck does anything you said in your post have to do with why Native Americans should be enititled to receive FEDERAL EMPLOYEES HEALTH BENEFITS?  If they are not Federal Empoyees, what the hell is your reasoning???  I have nothing against American Indians, but they should not get FEHB unless they are Federal Employees.  Put that in your pipe and smoke it!  lol



Use spell check, or learn to spell.

FEHB is not an entitlement. It's purchased. Put that in your peace pipe & smoke it. lol !

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#15 Posted : Tuesday, May 08, 2012 11:07:46 AM(UTC)
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FEHB will be fine.  I have nothing against expanding the population served by FEHB.  I don't see what the problem is.

They are going to be paying premiums into the system too, and I see nothing to indicate they would be especially unhealthier than current enrollees.




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rabbitdog99  
#16 Posted : Tuesday, May 08, 2012 11:52:00 PM(UTC)
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Whatever health care is available to government employees should be available to everyone.  Government servants should not be entitled to
anything better than that which the people they serve, and who pay for their health care, are in entitled to.



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#17 Posted : Wednesday, May 09, 2012 5:51:08 AM(UTC)
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Rabbit...Even though I think you are a jokester...I will bite. Who is going to pay for the part my employer, (the govt), pays? A govt employee is no different than any other employee that works for a large organization. Part of the benefits are paid by the organization, and the other part is paid by the individual. How come you don't want the benefits that employees get from Google? They are much  better...Maybe a march on their front steps would get you benefits you never earned for free.

Just a few years ago federal employees were looked down upon. Who would work for an organization that did not give multi-thousand dollar bonuses to employees each year? Now, all of a sudden it looks good. Hmmm....The Tortoise and the Hare, or is it the Ant and the Grasshopper?






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#18 Posted : Wednesday, May 09, 2012 10:11:57 AM(UTC)
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Redbugdave wrote:

Rabbit...Even though I think you are a jokester...I will bite. Who is going to pay for the part my employer, (the govt), pays? A govt employee is no different than any other employee that works for a large organization. Part of the benefits are paid by the organization, and the other part is paid by the individual. How come you don't want the benefits that employees get from Google? They are much  better...Maybe a march on their front steps would get you benefits you never earned for free.






I'm just saying that
if they need insurance (or better insurance), people ought to be allowed to buy into the FEHB insurance.  It's what they are buying for government employees so why can't they buy it for themselves.  They will pay for it themselves; of course if they can't afford it the government will subsidize it under the Obama Plan.  They aren't buying Google's employees their insurance so they would have no standing to be allowed in their program.


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#19 Posted : Wednesday, May 09, 2012 11:12:09 PM(UTC)
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I'm still under the impression that this means casinos and employees. therefore, what part the individual pays could be decided by employer or negotiated btwn employer/employee (or unions? any of them have them?). 100%/0, 70%/30, 50/50, whatever.

If we're talking about Joe NativeAmerican, living on a reservation, maybe they pay the full price; maybe the "tribe" has a fund to help pay part. I believe that the average NA, not working at a casino, still shares in the profits made by the sponsoring tribe

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martyb  
#20 Posted : Wednesday, May 09, 2012 11:58:15 PM(UTC)
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Not Federal Employees so therefore should not be getting FEHB. 

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