Welcome Guest! To enable all features please Login or Register.

Notification

Icon
Error

Relocating

Are you considering relocating your federal career - either by your choice or by Uncle Sam? There are practical issues and concerns to think about when deciding whether or not to relocate. Others have done it while still others have not. This forum will allow for all to offer their insight, post their questions, and help each other out.

To read today's top news stories on federal employee pay, benefits, retirement, job rights and other workplace issues visit FederalDaily.com.

Options
Go to last post Go to first unread
DLA-Ninja  
#1 Posted : Monday, April 09, 2012 1:12:47 AM(UTC)
DLA-Ninja

Rank: Newbie

Groups: Registered
Joined: 4/2/2012(UTC)
Posts: 10

I am a current DLA employee at Hill AFB in Utah. I am currently a GS-2010-11 and a 30% vet. The position is a GS-2001 11/12. I just recently phone interviewed with the same agency for a position in K-Town Germany. I have applied 3 times before and received no response. This time I got a phone interview (behavior based panel interview) which I think went well. The next day they did a Supervisor reference check. Which I was told by my supervisor also went well. What I want to know is this..is this normal procedure for these OCONUS jobs? I've heard mixed reactions from my peers. Some say to get this far into the process is great and expect an offer, and others say they probrally have a person in country already selected and interviewing me was just a formality. Either way the process was exciting and it was good to day dream about the possibility with the family.
simchief  
#2 Posted : Monday, April 09, 2012 1:23:23 AM(UTC)
simchief

Rank: Senior Member

Groups: Registered
Joined: 9/5/2006(UTC)
Posts: 643

Remember Department of State over 5-year rules; my contacts in Germany have stated the majority of hires are via USAJOBS, as inter-Germany transfers are rare; this is because of a maximum of five-year policy.

 

K-town is classified as an enduring community and should prove to be both a stable location and a great place to be stationed.

 

It sounds as if you are on track for a transfer to Germany.

 

Good Luck!

I'll be shoveling along: <br />Digger O'Dell
Knight  
#3 Posted : Monday, April 09, 2012 2:44:53 AM(UTC)
Knight

Rank: Senior Member

Groups: Registered
Joined: 1/2/2009(UTC)
Posts: 5,886
Man

Thanks: 1 times
Was thanked: 8 time(s) in 8 post(s)

Your chances are good. Like simchief said the 5 year rule kicks many people back to the US allowing for you to have a chance.

Good luck, let us know how it goes.
DLA-Ninja  
#4 Posted : Monday, April 09, 2012 10:35:39 AM(UTC)
DLA-Ninja

Rank: Newbie

Groups: Registered
Joined: 4/2/2012(UTC)
Posts: 10

I guess I should of waited a couple of more hours. I got the tentative offer today. So I have to do a physical, a financial statement, and a bunch of medical documents. Well here goes.. Thanks for the support and encouragement

Attempt2  
#5 Posted : Monday, April 09, 2012 3:44:50 PM(UTC)
Attempt2

Rank: Advisor

Groups: Registered
Joined: 3/28/2012(UTC)
Posts: 145

Congrads on getting the offer so quickly, in the past they had been average around 1 month between interviews and tentative offers. 

Just get the paperwork done quickly so you can get over here before summer and the big PCS time.  Otherwise better houses go quickly and it can be harder to schedule when the packers will deliver your goods.
goicuon  
#6 Posted : Tuesday, April 10, 2012 8:22:40 AM(UTC)
goicuon

Rank: Senior Member

Groups: Registered
Joined: 4/27/2008(UTC)
Posts: 326

Was thanked: 1 time(s) in 1 post(s)
I was talking with someone in K-town last week (by email) who has been OCONUS nine years.  She said that the command is very lenient on the five year rule because these overseas jobs are "so hard to fill."  Of course, she also said that "these jobs are extremely competitive."  Regardless, she made it perfectly clear that she had no intention of rotating out of her current position, where she is hard approaching five years in a couple of months.

simchief  
#7 Posted : Tuesday, April 10, 2012 10:17:10 PM(UTC)
simchief

Rank: Senior Member

Groups: Registered
Joined: 9/5/2006(UTC)
Posts: 643

In this case: DLA-Ninja was selected, so someone either vacated a position or left a position because of 5-year rule. If management wants an individual to remain, then management has to follow rules and request approval of a over-five extension, in my case I remained overseas, at the request of management, for over 16-years.

Enforcement of over-five rule comes and goes; however Europe has been enforcing Department of State rules for past several years, it is hard to continue in a position beyond five years in Germany.

Germany is a three-year tour area, I tell everyone to expect to stay three-years; however management might offer them additional two-years, this brings employee to five-year point. Someone doing a good job usually will be offered an first extension. Extensions beyond five-years is much more complicated, each region has their own approval process.

 

I'll be shoveling along: <br />Digger O'Dell
DLA-Ninja  
#8 Posted : Saturday, April 28, 2012 2:02:15 PM(UTC)
DLA-Ninja

Rank: Newbie

Groups: Registered
Joined: 4/2/2012(UTC)
Posts: 10

So things are moving along quite well. I am just waiting on the no fee passports to get processed and then my orders can be cut. I do have a question about the position and was hoping someone had any experience. My series is a 2001 General Supply Specialist, I have no questions about that. However, the position is part of the Civilian Expeditionary Workforce (CEW) meaning I need to do a tour possibly in Afghanistan as a Emergency Essential civilian for 1 year. Has anybody ever been apart of the CEW or know anyone that has? One of the requirements of the physical was being able to maintain and operate a weapon. I thought civilians were non combatants? If anyone has done this or is doing this please let me know how it is.

DLA-Ninja  
#9 Posted : Thursday, June 21, 2012 8:59:38 AM(UTC)
DLA-Ninja

Rank: Newbie

Groups: Registered
Joined: 4/2/2012(UTC)
Posts: 10

So I just received my PCS orders and have a question. When it lists my entitlements there is a part that doesn't look right to me. Granted its the weekend for me so I can't do to my HR rep till Monday. So I'm hoping someone has an insight.. This is for my family of five and 2 dogs. This is what it says for TSQA. 

TSQA (90 days)-$69,457.50 <------- This seems like an error. Has anyone gotten orders with an amount like this?


Attempt2  
#10 Posted : Thursday, June 21, 2012 2:46:17 PM(UTC)
Attempt2

Rank: Advisor

Groups: Registered
Joined: 3/28/2012(UTC)
Posts: 145

That is probably about right.  You have per diem for 5 person, and housing could easy reach $60,000+ using TDY rates.  Throw in car rental and there are probablya few other things and you could easily reach around $70,000 for 90 days.
That you get 90 days is a little much.  Most people get 30 days and have to give an explaination if they need more than that, and alot of people with the Army only get 30 days max.
 
PCSing is not cheap they estimate it costs it can easily cost a over $100,000 for a two family move.
bozo  
#11 Posted : Thursday, June 21, 2012 6:48:31 PM(UTC)
bozo

Rank: Senior Member

Groups: Registered
Joined: 10/10/2006(UTC)
Posts: 373

I pulled 118 days in TQSA in England, and 92 days in Japan. Thats not including the "outbound" trips. The estimate you mentioned however is probably taking into account more than just TQ. Unless of course you have 30 children. LOL

The 5-year rule depends mostly on the agency. I dont care who you are or how important you are to the Air Force mission, getting an overseas extension is not likely to be granted. When I worked for the Navy however, most of the guys I worked with werent even aware there WAS a 5-year rule; most had been there for 10-20 years. This has changed, albeit slightly, and depending on location. Europe extensions are generally much, much harder to acquire than in Asia, due in part to many expenses are paid by host countries out there.


Rss Feed  Atom Feed
Users browsing this topic
Guest
Forum Jump  
You cannot post new topics in this forum.
You cannot reply to topics in this forum.
You cannot delete your posts in this forum.
You cannot edit your posts in this forum.
You cannot create polls in this forum.
You cannot vote in polls in this forum.


This page was generated in 0.846 seconds.