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Melerkat  
#1 Posted : Tuesday, April 10, 2012 8:30:59 AM(UTC)
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The date for mediation to end, for the NALC contract talks, was Monday, I've been informed.
So the NALC is heading toward Binding Interest Arbitration now.

The good news is that we're very well prepared. The bad news is that work place issues don't get the attention they deserve during arbitration procedures. Arbitration usually only involves the nuts and bolts of wage, compliment, and benefits. 

But anyway, that's where we're going.


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boober  
#2 Posted : Tuesday, April 10, 2012 8:33:13 AM(UTC)
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gardak  
#3 Posted : Tuesday, April 10, 2012 9:33:45 AM(UTC)
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How long does it take for arbitration?
KingJaffe  
#4 Posted : Tuesday, April 10, 2012 9:39:30 AM(UTC)
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well congress is holding up a lot of things as well
CCA but not 4 long..lol
dhacker56  
#5 Posted : Tuesday, April 10, 2012 9:40:41 AM(UTC)
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Congress can't hold ARB up.

Melerkat  
#6 Posted : Tuesday, April 10, 2012 9:43:15 AM(UTC)
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Well, the NRLCA has been in Arbitration for 1-1/2 YEARS now.
But the norm is around 4-6 months. Sometimes less.

But note the date on this:


















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More than eight months after their contract talk***** an impasse, the
National Rural Letter Carriers’ Association and the U.S. Postal Service
are headed to arbitration, according to a new USPS financial filing.
While mediation would normally be the next move, both sides are
interested in bypassing that step and going to straight to arbitration, the third quarter financial report says. The next  step will be to select an “interest arbitrator” and decide on some dates for the proceedings.

A Postal Service spokesman had no further information Monday, but in a
phone interview that evening, NRLCA President Don Cantriel said the
decision to go to arbitration was made a week or so ago. “We just
couldn’t accept where they wanted to go,” Cantriel said. While the rural
letter carriers had offered concessions similar to what the American
Postal Workers Union had accepted earlier this year, he said, the Postal
Service then wanted to “completely alter” several of the standards in
the evaluated system used to determine carriers’ pay. The effect would be  “devastating,” Cantriel said.

“They basically want us to do the same amount of work for significantly less money.”

Under interest arbitration, the arbitrator decides which provisions
the parties will have in their collective bargaining agreement, as
opposed to interpreting and applying the terms of the agreement to decide a grievance, according to the Office of Personnel Management.

The impasse with the rural carriers dates back to last November,
triggered in part by USPS proposals to freeze wages, cut benefits for
current career employees and create a lower wage scale for new hires,
the union said at the time. Nonetheless, the two sides had kept talking–at least until recently.

Don’t forget, by the way, that contracts with two other postal
unions, the National Postal Mail Handlers Union and the National
Association of Letter Carriers, expire Nov. 20. Talks on replacements
will start about 90 days beforehand, the Postal Service has said. This
May, APWU members overwhelmingly ratified the new contract that will run until May 2015.





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dhacker56  
#7 Posted : Tuesday, April 10, 2012 9:52:43 AM(UTC)
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KAT-  the reason the RLCA are still in ARB is probably because they want to invoke their standard "ME TOO" clause.  Those officers could not find their way out of a Smart Car!!

Melerkat  
#8 Posted : Tuesday, April 10, 2012 10:03:29 AM(UTC)
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This is not a surprising development.

I posted well before mediation began that both sides basically agreed to kick the can down the road because everyone HAS TO SEE what Congress will do, what Bill they'll pass.
And that has to be a unified House/Senate Bill. So that's yet another hurdle to jump.
Our office was told in blunt fashion by our NBA that what's lacking in the negotiation process is a BASELINE.
A POINT FROM WHERE TO START, that also places LIMITS ON WHAT ANY SIDE COULD REASONABLY EXPECT TO ACHIEVE.

Six day or five?
Pre-funding relief or not?
Allow plant/post office closings, consolidation or not?

So, in essence, it IS all about Congress (Both Chambers).

Sure, we can adjudicate all we want. But what will the "Judges" decide, and based on what?
Remember: This is a National Election Year, so many a lawmaker doesn't want to go on record for voting one way or another, as in voting for job cuts, or what could be easily spun as a "Bailout."

So this could indeed turn out to be a very long process. That's why I posted that Fed Times article, because that's what they're saying too. (The NRLCA).

And they already have 1-1/2 years experience in can kicking.




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Jethro Bodine  
#9 Posted : Tuesday, April 10, 2012 11:31:52 AM(UTC)
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Are we carriers going to get any raises any time soon? Or is that even possible? 

smalltownsteward  
#10 Posted : Tuesday, April 10, 2012 12:10:20 PM(UTC)
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Just wait.  I'm betting the NALC doesn't get half of what they deserve.
johncd  
#11 Posted : Tuesday, April 10, 2012 12:57:10 PM(UTC)
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Federal Mediation and Conciliation Service Director George Cohen announced Feb. 13 that he has appointed attorney Joshua Javits as mediator to assist NALC and USPS in reaching a new collective-bargaining agreement. That does not mean they started on Febuary 13 but it should be close to that date. If they can't come to an agreement after 60 days it then goes to arbitration!
9wire  
#12 Posted : Tuesday, April 10, 2012 7:45:19 PM(UTC)
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We have to re-do our local agreement, but have to wait until this is over.

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#13 Posted : Tuesday, April 10, 2012 11:37:01 PM(UTC)
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Jethro Bodine wrote:
Are we carriers going to get any raises any time soon? Or is that even possible? 

 
jb look at your avatar for the answer.Dead
Retired postal worker of 38 years who is willing to help even though some do not want to hear the truth.
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