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curttard  
#1 Posted : Thursday, May 17, 2012 1:40:37 AM(UTC)
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Just wondering if I should stick this out. When career clerks retire, what are the chances they will convert a PSE? Our trainer said in our district he has never heard of one, and in fact hasn't heard of any temporaries being converted in five years. 
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#2 Posted : Thursday, May 17, 2012 1:49:22 AM(UTC)
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I don't want to sound rude or crass but WHAT DO YOU THINK? Nobody knows what the "flip" is going on. We wait every single day for news on how they're going to screw us next.
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alpine2g  
#3 Posted : Thursday, May 17, 2012 2:02:10 AM(UTC)
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You just answered your own question.  I've been a T.E. over 4 years, and nothing on the horizon.

There is also no conversion.

Open career position found on usps.com, click apply and then you will be given the exam and placed on a register.  Just because I have done this over five years will not give me an edge, even though it makes perfect sense but here at the good ol P.O. they like to do stuff half -a$$ed and backwards!



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curttard  
#4 Posted : Thursday, May 17, 2012 3:09:23 AM(UTC)
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I guess more specifically, is there any reason to think that when a career retires and they need a new employee, that they will convert a PSE  to career rather than just filling the position with a PSE?
TexasClk  
#5 Posted : Thursday, May 17, 2012 3:27:13 AM(UTC)
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Alpine - the rules for TEs are different than the rules for PSEs.  TEs can't be converted to regular.  PSEs can.  Since the position has only existed for a few months, no one knows what they may do and when they may do it.  It probably won't happen for at least a couple of years though.  They have to coax several thousand of us old timers into retirement first.  Just because there's a vacant position doesn't mean a PSE will be converted into it.  They can hold them for years or revert them.
TexasClk  
#6 Posted : Thursday, May 17, 2012 3:29:42 AM(UTC)
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Also Alpine - PSEs have already taken the battery and don't have to take it again.  When and if they fill a career clerk position, they convert the senior PSE, much like RCAs are converted to career.
curttard  
#7 Posted : Thursday, May 17, 2012 4:14:51 AM(UTC)
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The senior PSE in the office? Or in the district? There are two clerks at my current office who talk daily about retiring asap, but I am being transferred to another office on Saturday.
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#8 Posted : Thursday, May 17, 2012 4:46:16 AM(UTC)
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CURTTARD- Senior PSE in the office, not district.
 
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how about the chances of a PSE converting into career when no clerk is in unit. would i goto a Lead Clerk (which i think is career). but i do pretty much everything and am here solo most of the time. No OIC, No PM just me and the "window" i stare out of ... like Donahoe says we do most of the day.
 
but to be honest i have used a lot of the down time to read the APWU new-releases, and make myself very aware of what is happening around me in this beuracratic system of business as well as taking as many workshop classes that are offered online and are free for any of us to take.
 
hoping these actions will help my in retention or into making a move for a career position.
and if that is the case, what about the time i have accured. should i use it up or can i be paid for it if not used when the transition is made. will i even know it is coming?
uhgggg,
 
 
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TexasClk  
#9 Posted : Thursday, May 17, 2012 5:07:41 AM(UTC)
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curttard, we've been told they'll go by PSEs in the facility first if there are any.  If the facility doesn't have any, they'll open it up to other offices.  I don't think it's district wide.  Just within commuting distance.
curttard  
#10 Posted : Thursday, May 17, 2012 5:34:28 AM(UTC)
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Interesting. So being transferred away from an office with two old dudes to one down the street with no old dudes theoretically hurts my chances?
dhacker56  
#11 Posted : Thursday, May 17, 2012 5:47:16 AM(UTC)
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Why are they transferring you?

alpine2g  
#12 Posted : Thursday, May 17, 2012 6:21:12 AM(UTC)
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You cannot be converted! PSE is a NON CAREER position! 

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TexasClk  
#13 Posted : Thursday, May 17, 2012 6:25:31 AM(UTC)
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alpine - you obviously have not read the new APWU contract.  PSE may be converted just like RCAs who are also not career.
alpine2g  
#14 Posted : Thursday, May 17, 2012 6:30:18 AM(UTC)
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I find it hard to believe.. You sold the young ens out, then helped MGMT implement these ridiculous work hours and job classifications. 

Who in their right mind wants to work split shifts for 30 some odd years?

Next your gonna be telling me PSE's are going to be converted to the carrier craft!



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curttard  
#15 Posted : Thursday, May 17, 2012 7:37:43 AM(UTC)
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dhacker56 wrote:
Why are they transferring you?


A career clerk decided to transfer over here, so they're bumping me over to where she came from.
dhacker56  
#16 Posted : Thursday, May 17, 2012 8:22:05 AM(UTC)
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Then it sounds like you would have been let go for lack of work if you had not transferred.



dhacker56  
#17 Posted : Thursday, May 17, 2012 8:23:15 AM(UTC)
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and when those clerks in your office retire there will be no PSEs there to be promoted so you may still get the chance.

alpine2g  
#18 Posted : Thursday, May 17, 2012 8:29:41 AM(UTC)
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dhacker56 wrote:
and when those clerks in your office retire there will be no PSEs there to be promoted so you may still get the chance.


Come on don't dangle the carrot! Confused

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dhacker56  
#19 Posted : Thursday, May 17, 2012 8:37:17 AM(UTC)
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I ma dangling nothing.  He has a better chance than a TE without a passing exam score will ever have.

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#20 Posted : Thursday, May 17, 2012 8:52:31 AM(UTC)
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