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PSE209  
#1 Posted : Friday, November 23, 2012 3:32:11 PM(UTC)
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I just got hired as a PSE sale/distribution associate and I attend orientation on December 3rd. My question is if the annual pay increase will apply to me. My position posting when i applied had a pay rate of $14.60 but after some research I saw there was a pay raise on 11/17 to $14.89. Does this mean when I start on December 3rd I will be getting the new $14.89 pay rate. Also, does anyone know if usps pays us mileage for orientation? My orientation location is about an hour away from my post office location where Ill be working. Thanks for any help
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#2 Posted : Friday, November 23, 2012 7:32:49 PM(UTC)
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I believe someone else asked about the pay raise before on this forum and was told that it does apply to them. There's no reason why you wouldn't get the higher pay rate. When they post positions they have to use the current figures. When raises happen, they just happen. Keep this unexpected pay raise in mind when the union asks you to join.

I'm not 100% sure, but I believe orientation is considered part of your training. If it is within 50 miles, you would not get mileage.
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#3 Posted : Friday, November 23, 2012 11:58:54 PM(UTC)
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PSE209 wrote:
I just got hired as a PSE sale/distribution associate and I attend orientation on December 3rd. My question is if the annual pay increase will apply to me. My position posting when i applied had a pay rate of $14.60 but after some research I saw there was a pay raise on 11/17 to $14.89. Does this mean when I start on December 3rd I will be getting the new $14.89 pay rate. Also, does anyone know if usps pays us mileage for orientation? My orientation location is about an hour away from my post office location where Ill be working. Thanks for any help


This is an easy one answer.

Tell everyone the date you were hired.
lisabeth1969  
#4 Posted : Saturday, November 24, 2012 2:53:18 AM(UTC)
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You should get mileage for orientation, it was offered to everyone during orientation when I went, and they will instruct you on how to do it with e-travel. I assume you get the pay raise since it is a cost of living raise, for all pse's but as to whether or not you get it right away, I don't know. My year ends in february, and the other pse at my PO, who just returned from his break, hasn't had any of his checks held out, but he hasn't gotten his yearly raise, so he's waiting a bit longer to see if he is getting one. I am wondering if any other pse's who have already started their second year have gotten their yearly raises? Please let us know. Thanks
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#5 Posted : Saturday, November 24, 2012 9:45:00 AM(UTC)
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the pay increase on Nov 17, 2012 is/was not a cost of living increase! it was/is a general increase for all APWU crafts.

cost of living adjustments (COLA) for APWU crafts are always in January and July. PSE's do not receive COLA's.

http://www.apwu.org/dept/ind-rel/sc/ircba.htm
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#6 Posted : Saturday, November 24, 2012 10:21:26 AM(UTC)
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I read on the APWU bulletin board at work regarding this, you as a PSE will not get the COLA but will get a 2% base pay raise.
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PSE209  
#7 Posted : Saturday, November 24, 2012 11:26:35 AM(UTC)
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Is this base pay increase the only type if pay increase for pses? I know there will be another one next november..but is there any other type of pay increase available to pse?
Guts  
#8 Posted : Saturday, November 24, 2012 12:18:36 PM(UTC)
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PSE209 wrote:
Is this base pay increase the only type if pay increase for pses? I know there will be another one next november..but is there any other type of pay increase available to pse?


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alpine2g  
#9 Posted : Saturday, November 24, 2012 2:39:11 PM(UTC)
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Ya it's a 35 cent bump in dues for PSE's and I think 62 cents for career employees.
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PSE209  
#10 Posted : Saturday, November 24, 2012 4:06:08 PM(UTC)
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'.35 cents per paycheck? I think I can manage with out it lol...thanks guys
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#11 Posted : Saturday, November 24, 2012 11:43:21 PM(UTC)
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Section 7. Postal Support Employees
The hourly rates for PSEs shall be adjusted by the general increases provided for in Article 9.1. In addition, PSEs will receive the following wage adjustments:
Effective, November 17, 2012, the hourly rates for all grades shall be increased by 1.0%.

Effective November 16, 2013, the hourly rates for all grades shall be increased by 1.0%.

Effective November 15, 2014, the hourly rates for all grades shall be increased by 1.5%.

All percentage increases are applied to the wage rates in place on the effective date of this Agreement.

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AJC  
#12 Posted : Sunday, November 25, 2012 1:08:24 AM(UTC)
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It is a 2 percent raise for PSE rates.
The level 6 pay rate was $14.60 and went to
$14.89 which is a 2 percent increase.

Article 9.1 provides for general wage increases that
apply to all APWU represented employees and as you quoted:
"In addition, PSE's will receive the following wage adjustments:..."
That is 1 percent plus 1 percent. The total wage increases over the
life of the contract for PSE's will be 7 percent while for career
It is 3.5 percent.
http://www.apwu.org/news/nsb/2012/nsb22-121101-payraise.htm
PSE209  
#13 Posted : Sunday, November 25, 2012 4:16:28 AM(UTC)
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Yea thats my understanding 2 percent not 1. How is the 7 percent broken down? 2 percent down but how and when will the other 5 percent come in? I think I read 2 percent every november but I havent really looked further into it
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#14 Posted : Sunday, November 25, 2012 5:39:44 AM(UTC)
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PSE209,
read Article 9 of your collective bargaining agreement.
Section one applies to all employees and section seven
applies specifically to PSE's. If you combine the general wage increases
provided for in section one with those in section seven the
total increase in wages for PSE's will be seven percent.
keep in mind that Cost of Living Adjustments are not available to PSE's.

Start on page thirty.
http://www.apwu.org/dept/ind-rel/sc/APWU%20Contract%202010-2015.pdf
PSE209  
#15 Posted : Sunday, November 25, 2012 6:15:15 AM(UTC)
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Yea wow that thing is loaded with info lol. Thanks for giving me the page number...AJC, so if im understanding correctly..next year (nov 2013) will be a 2.5 percent increase?
PSE209  
#16 Posted : Sunday, November 25, 2012 6:20:45 AM(UTC)
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1.5 percent annual plus the pse 1 percent for 2013 and then 2014 will be 2.5 percent as well , just vice versa 1 percent for the annual and 1.5 for the pse adjustment? I hope I got this down lol its kind of confusing
AJC  
#17 Posted : Sunday, November 25, 2012 6:44:18 AM(UTC)
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PSE209,
that is correct.
Keep reading that contract. You'll find that many of your work related questions
can be answered by checking the contract. If something is still unclear you can also ask your Union representatives
about it.
Beppo  
#18 Posted : Monday, November 26, 2012 2:12:51 AM(UTC)
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Reading the contract gives me a headache. It's like asking "What is Noah's Ark?" then being handed a Bible and told, "Read this whole thing, the answer's in there." Yes the answer's there but one has to wade through hundreds of pages to find it. I prefer to come here for my work related questions.
One of my favorite professors in college once said, "You know what's better than reading hundreds of books to increase your knowledge? Learning from someone who's already read them."
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#19 Posted : Monday, November 26, 2012 4:30:10 AM(UTC)
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Point taken, Beppo. BUT, I used to ask stewards, officers and other experienced carriers my work related questions and got plenty of info. When I tried to apply that info to situations I would encounter later I learned that what I was told by these people who had read the contract was not exactly accurate. I don't fault them, because as you correctly point out, there is a buttload of information to wade through. Because that didn't help me get any closer to the answers, I started reading it myself. As I mentioned in another post, unless a post includes a citation from a handbook, manual or contract, it should be treated as an opinion, not a fact.
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TexasClk  
#20 Posted : Tuesday, November 27, 2012 4:48:18 AM(UTC)
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PSE209 wrote:
Also, does anyone know if usps pays us mileage for orientation? My orientation location is about an hour away from my post office location where Ill be working. Thanks for any help


We pay mileage to training either from your home or from your office, whichever is closer. We only pay driving time if the training is over 50 miles away. If someone went to training and did not receive mileage, you need to contact the union. Some postmasters conveniently forget to tell people they are entitled to mileage.
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