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gwphelpss10  
#1 Posted : Friday, January 11, 2013 10:05:10 AM(UTC)
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According to the new agreement all PTF's are to be converted to regular. So what is the time frame to convert? Is it the length of the contract? If that's the case it may take 4 years!!!
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#2 Posted : Friday, January 11, 2013 10:08:32 AM(UTC)
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There is no specified time frame. A joint task force will determine how to convert PTF's in installations where there are no full time vacancies.
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skip222  
#3 Posted : Saturday, January 12, 2013 6:58:16 AM(UTC)
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they don't make regulars anymore
unclejimbo  
#4 Posted : Saturday, January 12, 2013 7:10:36 AM(UTC)
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Um, what?
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#5 Posted : Saturday, January 12, 2013 9:57:38 AM(UTC)
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What's the hurry?pjxii2013-01-14 04:04:39
gwphelpss10  
#6 Posted : Saturday, January 12, 2013 10:49:43 AM(UTC)
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What's the hurry? Let's see here. I've been a PTF for 10+ years. Been caught up in the excessing mess twice. So yeah I want this to be done before I get screwed once again.
John Henry  
#7 Posted : Saturday, January 12, 2013 10:54:18 AM(UTC)
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pjxii wrote:
What's the hurry?
Upon becoming a regular a PTF is not utilized first before regulars are mandated into overtime. No more split schedules sitting in the swing room waiting to clock back in, clock in and clock out 8+1/2 hours later
gwphelpss10  
#8 Posted : Sunday, January 13, 2013 2:23:27 PM(UTC)
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So let me ask this. If there are no full time vacancies available. Will the USPS start excessing people out? And if they do and a steward is a PTF will he have superseniority?
Melerkat  
#9 Posted : Sunday, January 13, 2013 6:50:23 PM(UTC)
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PTF's are not excessed. They can voluntarily transfer.

They can be made unassigned regulars. Now, that's not out of the question, especially in offices with many TE's. Surely there exists 40-hours a week in any office with several TE's, after the TE position expires.

In an office with many PTF's they may remain PTF's for a while because there is no imminent date set for every PTF to be promoted.

My office has none. Many others in my Branch have none. Others posted here that their office has none.

If you paas the test and have any choice or they ask your preference of offices you would like to be considered for as a new CCA, I would highly advise choosing an office with zero PTF's. You might make regular so quickly that you'll be stunned.
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KingJaffe  
#10 Posted : Sunday, January 13, 2013 6:54:38 PM(UTC)
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My office has 1 ptf and a 204b ptf...

But they will be making regular soon
CCA but not 4 long..lol
castni  
#11 Posted : Sunday, January 13, 2013 7:10:59 PM(UTC)
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When we got FSS our steward was low regular. But because he was steward the next one above him had to go. We ended up getting the other carrier back, the routes that were done with the core system ended up being 9.50 hr routes.
Melerkat  
#12 Posted : Sunday, January 13, 2013 7:27:37 PM(UTC)
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Any Steward has super-seniority. Even a TE. HOWEVER!:

27. Can a transitional employee serve as a union steward?
Yes.
28. Do Article 17.3 and 17.4 of the National Agreement apply to transitional employees serving
as union stewards?
Yes.

BUT:

"While serving as a steward or chief steward, an employee may
not be involuntarily transferred to another tour, to another station
or branch of the particular post office or to another independent
post office or installation unless there is no job for
which the employee is qualified on such tour, or in such station
or branch, or post office."

Well, if the TE position were abolished, and the TE did pass the test, then the former TE would not qualify for any work. Anywhere.
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unclejimbo  
#13 Posted : Sunday, January 13, 2013 7:58:16 PM(UTC)
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The award also changes some Article 12 rules about excessing. If a PTF is considered excess to the needs... he can be involuntarily transferred to another installation within the carrier craft. PTF's and FTR's are all lumped together for excessing purposes, so there is no more avoiding excessing within the craft by voluntarily becoming a PTF. The excess carriers may, however, choose to stay and work as a CCA.
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skip222  
#14 Posted : Sunday, January 13, 2013 8:19:05 PM(UTC)
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ptf=part time forever
lisabeth1969  
#15 Posted : Sunday, January 13, 2013 8:21:06 PM(UTC)
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I didn't know there was a new agreement do you have a link to see this? Sorry to to be probably the last one to know...
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#16 Posted : Sunday, January 13, 2013 8:32:59 PM(UTC)
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lisabeth1969  
#17 Posted : Sunday, January 13, 2013 8:53:08 PM(UTC)
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This is probably a dumb question but is there reference to PTF only within the carrier craft or does it impact the clerk craft? Sorry in advance for my ignorance. Just trying to keep up with all that is going on. Thanks again for the link
John Henry  
#18 Posted : Sunday, January 13, 2013 10:29:53 PM(UTC)
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city carrier craft only, the other crafts have a different contract.
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