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yode12  
#1 Posted : Saturday, January 19, 2013 10:01:33 PM(UTC)
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will the hiring of cca affect overtime all over the country did they not say it would be 15 percent ratio per district or do you think they will have trouble hiring them?
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#2 Posted : Saturday, January 19, 2013 10:16:36 PM(UTC)
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https://liteblue.usps.go.../2013/01jan/news15s1.htm

Where else can they save? Eliminate overtime. I think that's the goal of the new 15% CCA cap. I wouldn't be surprised to see route adjustments actually taking a little work off and auxiliary routes created. More routes, no overtime, CCA's getting 25-30 hrs, all reg's work exactly 40. I also think we'll see CCA's making evening deliveries of parcels as they try the same day delivery. Just my opinion.
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#3 Posted : Saturday, January 19, 2013 10:35:27 PM(UTC)
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we are short staffed everyday....i got 3 and a half hour vtime the other day...

Clercarrierhandler duties...

Triple threat
CCA but not 4 long..lol
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#4 Posted : Saturday, January 19, 2013 10:53:11 PM(UTC)
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We are also. however I figure its a transition phase as our former PTFs have been shifted over to vacant routes these past three months. However for years the service has rather paid overtime then hire another career carrier with his benefits package. The use of V-time however was something never done in my career until this year.
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#5 Posted : Saturday, January 19, 2013 10:58:02 PM(UTC)
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With CCA's, it seems like the USPS has finally reached the point where it's no longer cheaper to just give people overtime instead of hire someone. It's actually going to be cheaper to just hire a CCA instead of giving out OT.

CCA's will make way less than the current regular workforce, even WITH them working OT.

I think OT will start dropping like crazy over time.
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KingJaffe  
#6 Posted : Saturday, January 19, 2013 10:58:12 PM(UTC)
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they dont even care anymore..lol

managers used to sweat when you told them you were minutes away from v..lol
CCA but not 4 long..lol
KingJaffe  
#7 Posted : Saturday, January 19, 2013 11:00:02 PM(UTC)
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boober wrote:
With CCA's, it seems like the USPS has finally reached the point where it's no longer cheaper to just give people overtime instead of hire someone. It's actually going to be cheaper to just hire a CCA instead of giving out OT.

CCA's will make way less than the current regular workforce, even WITH them working OT.

I think OT will start dropping like crazy over time.


dosent the odl list have to be satisfied too?
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#8 Posted : Saturday, January 19, 2013 11:05:38 PM(UTC)
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There's no requirement that ODL be given OT.
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#9 Posted : Saturday, January 19, 2013 11:11:59 PM(UTC)
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Look at it this way. Initially there may be a lot of OT. However, if and when they fill all vacant career slots with promoted CCA's the percentage of CCA's will still remain at 15%. So you will have a fully staffed career workforce and 15% extra CCA's to cover annual and sick leave. If and when the career ranks are filled CCA's will be lucky to get as many hours as a junior RCA. Be prepared to farm yourself out in order to get the hours.
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KingJaffe  
#10 Posted : Saturday, January 19, 2013 11:13:59 PM(UTC)
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the way attendance is in my station,the hours will be there
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yode12  
#11 Posted : Saturday, January 19, 2013 11:22:14 PM(UTC)
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they can hire a 1000 cca but our problem usually is waiting on clerks.will these cca just be doing city carrier deliveries or can they be used to help the clerks.casse in point we came in saturday and had very little mail so we thought.every route could have carried an hour undertim but guess what after spending about an hour they brought a bunch of mail at 9 am point is they brought the mail too late
yode12  
#12 Posted : Sunday, January 20, 2013 12:08:35 AM(UTC)
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so you think people will work for 16 an hour with no overtime i guess it depends on what part of the country you are in and the job openings in places like michelin or bmw
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#13 Posted : Sunday, January 20, 2013 2:25:50 AM(UTC)
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yode12 wrote:
so you think people will work for 16 an hour with no overtime i guess it depends on what part of the country you are in and the job openings in places like michelin or bmw


The people who make 16 an hour will be the ones getting the OT.

Regulars are gonna see their OT drop like crazy is my point from earlier.
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KingJaffe  
#14 Posted : Sunday, January 20, 2013 2:30:25 AM(UTC)
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I think after the summer vacation batch,the ot will drop...But every station is different in terms of attendance...

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#15 Posted : Sunday, January 20, 2013 2:55:45 AM(UTC)
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yode12 wrote:
will these cca just be doing city carrier deliveries or can they be used to help the clerks.

Theoretically, no.

Problem is, many of the station clerks are now so worn out by years of chronic understaffing that they just might turn a blind eye.
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#16 Posted : Sunday, January 20, 2013 3:13:43 AM(UTC)
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Data Collector wrote:
yode12 wrote:
will these cca just be doing city carrier deliveries or can they be used to help the clerks.

Theoretically, no.

Problem is, many of the station clerks are now so worn out by years of chronic understaffing that they just might turn a blind eye.


I know the schemes better than some clerks..

When you been on every route in your station,you are just as equipped as clerks...

I've thrown off parcels and all...
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#17 Posted : Sunday, January 20, 2013 3:33:21 AM(UTC)
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KingJaffe wrote:
the way attendance is in my station,the hours will be there


Don't be so sure. With a compliment of 15% CCA, i'm sure that the PO will be "cracking down" on irregular attendees. JMHO.
KingJaffe  
#18 Posted : Sunday, January 20, 2013 3:52:16 AM(UTC)
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bemused carrier wrote:
KingJaffe wrote:
the way attendance is in my station,the hours will be there


Don't be so sure. With a compliment of 15% CCA, i'm sure that the PO will be "cracking down" on irregular attendees. JMHO.


whats "cracking down" exactly??

I know people who bang up like its no one's business..
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Blix  
#19 Posted : Sunday, January 20, 2013 4:03:27 AM(UTC)
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Data Collector wrote:
yode12 wrote:
will these cca just be doing city carrier deliveries or can they be used to help the clerks.

Theoretically, no.

Problem is, many of the station clerks are now so worn out by years of chronic understaffing that they just might turn a blind eye.


This is true...their are a few clerks where I work that just don't give a sh*t anymore or gave up trying to keep up.

Luckly, a lot of the carriers and TE's understand our situation on our tour and are quite patient.   

However, we do for the most of the time get everything to the carriers on time. Sometimes it gets close to the end of the hour of cutoff time and sometimes we have time to spare. Guess it all depends on the day and what comes in.
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#20 Posted : Sunday, January 20, 2013 4:07:23 AM(UTC)
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To correct a misstatement, or missunderstanding, about the 15%. The 15% is figured off the number of City Carrier routes, not the number of City Carriers.
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