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swamper  
#1 Posted : Thursday, April 24, 2008 9:29:27 AM(UTC)
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From what I've been reading online there seem to be some major bones of contention regarding the program after it was transferred to DHS from USDA. Is this true? Is the position considered to be a non-professional one? I keep reading about the low employee morale, but I really want to hear from someone that knows more first-hand.
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#2 Posted : Thursday, April 24, 2008 9:50:33 AM(UTC)
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Not sure about bones of contention and not sure about what you mean by non-professional but it seems like a pretty good gig. You go up to GS-11, so the money isn't so bad. I would only assume that the only bad thing is that once you hit GS-11 there isn't really much room for advancement besides becoming a Supervisor (GS-12). If you wanted further promotion then you would have to reapply for to become a regular CBP Officer. In that case I hear that your previous agriculture experience could be helpful when it comes to promotions, to maybe even a CBP Chief position. Either way, it's a long and grueling ladder to climb.

The only CBP Aggies I met were new ones fresh out of the academy so their spirits were rather high but I would assume that overall the morale isn't that high since the position itself is rather new and it will require you to be very flexible i.e. be able to deal with a lot of BS. But if you're thinking of getting your foot in the door with the FED it's a pretty good job. The money is good and the job isn't too hard. Plus you don't get to carry a handgun so no need to worry about the baggage that comes with it.
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#3 Posted : Thursday, April 24, 2008 11:09:47 AM(UTC)
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Not a bad position if you meet the background & educational requirements for it. They are mandatory. CA was right about the FPL of 11, if you get tired of it, you can always try USDA or FSIS but I believe the grade structure isn't as good as CBP.

Keep in mind border ports will have the most inspectors. Inspectors in the interior are few and normally retirement homes for seasoned inspectors.
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#4 Posted : Thursday, April 24, 2008 11:31:42 AM(UTC)
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I have a Master's in a relevant field, so I qualify. I threw in an ap and it's already been rated as eligible and referred to the "Staffing Unit". I was just trying to find more information online and kept running into materials that made me want more insider info. It sounded like a good job. I could always shift jobs if I want to climb higher up the ladder, I guess.
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#5 Posted : Thursday, April 24, 2008 11:41:43 AM(UTC)
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Depending on your education or background, FDA may also be a another choice. Their investigators all have degree required and they have FPL's of 12. They work according to specialties such as food, blood, medical devices, etc.

If you get into CBP, you'll have frequent contact with FDA so you can ask what options you might have there.
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#6 Posted : Friday, April 25, 2008 1:37:25 AM(UTC)
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Given that all goes well, how long would it take for a job offer to be made?
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#7 Posted : Saturday, April 26, 2008 9:53:56 AM(UTC)
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Especially considering that this is the govt we're talking about here. I applied on the 18th and they mailed out a tentative job offer on the 23rd. Does this pretty much mean that it's in the bag if I pass the background stuff?
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#8 Posted : Saturday, April 26, 2008 10:27:06 AM(UTC)
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If you have a tentative offer & can pass the BI, you're in.

No guess as to how long the BI will take. A lot of CBP backgrounds are farmed out to contractors.

good luck!! and if you get your own beagle, post pics! Big Grin
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#9 Posted : Thursday, May 01, 2008 6:11:38 AM(UTC)
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I've received another job offer and just wanted to confirm what snowpuppy had said regarding the security of the job offer. My BI should come back squeaky clean, so that should guarantee me a job offer? How long would it be from the first tentative offer to the first check?
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#10 Posted : Thursday, May 01, 2008 7:50:07 AM(UTC)
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Buckeye as it sounds like he's currently CBP or Cr@p Artist. Last I heard all BI's were done by contractors.

Did they ask you to complete the SF 86 yet or online 86? You'll need to get fingerprints & the tinkle in the cup as well. Not sure if Ag guys require the same physical as CBP or not. I'm assuming since it's One Face at The Border, all the EOD requirments are the same.
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#11 Posted : Thursday, May 01, 2008 11:06:52 AM(UTC)
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quote:
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Did they ask you to complete the SF 86 yet or online 86? You'll need to get fingerprints & the tinkle in the cup as well. Not sure if Ag guys require the same physical as CBP or not. I'm assuming since it's One Face at The Border, all the EOD requirments are the same.


I've done the online E-QIP (SF 86 in electronic form). I've also signed all the disclosure forms and done my fingerprints. I know there's still a drug test to come, but I don't think there's a physical. I believe they're trying to move away from the one face at the border thing because it didn't work. And I'll need to do a Video Based Test. Does anyone know anything about this? Is is just to make sure I'm not a drooling moron?
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#12 Posted : Thursday, May 01, 2008 12:08:27 PM(UTC)
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Don't tell them it's not working ! Big Grin

Google your CBP video based test & it will lead you to links. Nothing is sacred anymore! Again, might want to ask Buckeye for specifics if you need more 411.

If you're this far along, you could call/email and ask about a tentative EOD date. If it's still one face going on, do you have to go to Glynco?
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#13 Posted : Thursday, May 01, 2008 12:22:04 PM(UTC)
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The Ag inspectors get trained for 10 weeks in Frederick, MD. It was decided that one-face made an individual try to be an expert in too many things, and it was a failure. So they're splitting them back up again. At least, this is my understanding. Now I just have to overstuff a priority mail envelope to get those forms back to them. Following unclear and sometimes contradictory instructions must be a part of the test.
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#14 Posted : Thursday, May 08, 2008 6:45:24 AM(UTC)
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They got my package with all the pre-employment forms on Monday at 10 am. The hiring dept overnighted me a piece of paper on Wednesday with my scheduled VBT interview. So I guess the only things left are the drug test and for my BI to clear. Can you study for the VBT? Should I even worry about not passing it?
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#15 Posted : Thursday, May 08, 2008 7:36:45 AM(UTC)
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Video-Based testing (VBT)

Video-Based testing is a new method for assessing interpersonal skills, emotional maturity, and other skills that are not easily assessed through a written test. The applicant watches a video of several realistic job scenarios such as the questioning of a very hostile individual by a CBP officer. After each viewing, the applicant has 45 seconds to respond as if he or she were part of the scenario. The responses are videotaped and later evaluated by trained assessors. The VBT has been implemented in seven locations for the selection of CBP officers and is scheduled for nationwide implementation in 2005.

Doesn't sound like something you can study for other than to recall Psych 101 & Abnormal Psych from undergrad days. Measures your ability to meet & deal under stress.
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#16 Posted : Monday, May 12, 2008 2:28:29 AM(UTC)
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I applied for the same job as my friend swamper but for the florida area. However they don't seem to be moving as fast as they did for her. They did reopen the posting is that a good or bad sign and does that mean it will take longer to hear something? I was per qulified and everything just hav recieved any preliminary offer or rejection or anything for that matter.

So since the arizona posting closed friday I put in my app. there to since they were hiring for many instead of a few positions. Any advice?
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#17 Posted : Monday, May 12, 2008 4:47:50 AM(UTC)
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I applied for the position that had a closing date in late april. I wonder how long it will take them to contact us and hire someone.

I took the video based test for the physical security specialist position on april 1 but screwed that up because I thought I was being interviewed for teh agricultural specialist position. At the end of the interview they asked me if i knew what position I had applied for and mentioned to them the name of this position and then they just handed me name of hte position on a sheet of paper Frown.

I guess the only positive thing was that they asked how flexible I was on relocation.
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#18 Posted : Monday, May 12, 2008 4:53:15 AM(UTC)
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What do you know about the food inspector position? I applied for it about a month ago but he closing date isnt until sep 18. Is there a high demand for food inspector positions?
Does the food inspector position get lots of job candidates? I wonder how much more or less difficult is it to be a food inspector versus agricultural specialist?



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Not sure about bones of contention and not sure about what you mean by non-professional but it seems like a pretty good gig. You go up to GS-11, so the money isn't so bad. I would only assume that the only bad thing is that once you hit GS-11 there isn't really much room for advancement besides becoming a Supervisor (GS-12). If you wanted further promotion then you would have to reapply for to become a regular CBP Officer. In that case I hear that your previous agriculture experience could be helpful when it comes to promotions, to maybe even a CBP Chief position. Either way, it's a long and grueling ladder to climb.

The only CBP Aggies I met were new ones fresh out of the academy so their spirits were rather high but I would assume that overall the morale isn't that high since the position itself is rather new and it will require you to be very flexible i.e. be able to deal with a lot of BS. But if you're thinking of getting your foot in the door with the FED it's a pretty good job. The money is good and the job isn't too hard. Plus you don't get to carry a handgun so no need to worry about the baggage that comes with it.
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#19 Posted : Wednesday, May 14, 2008 5:55:29 AM(UTC)
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The drug test is on Friday. This means that I've completed all the steps in less than a month after the TO was sent out.
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#20 Posted : Wednesday, May 14, 2008 6:13:39 AM(UTC)
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Hope your tinkle is squeaky clean

Post pics when you get your beagle. Big Grin
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