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So I applied for a position which was for STATUS Candidates only. With the eligibility being Competitive Merit Promotion and Non-Competitive Merit Promotion. I had the option to choose either or both as my eligibility. I am a current federal employee as well as eligible under VEOA. (Competitive Merit) I am also a 30% percent vet as well as eligible under VRA. (Non-Competitive Merit)
Like i said i had the option to choose both or just one. As you guessed I choose both to have a better chance. Now my question is who gets referred 1st? those who make the competitive or the non competitive merit or do both have the same chance at being referred?
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Generally speaking, we prepare and issue all certs for the same vacancy at the same time. Non comp and comp at the same time and managers pick who they want to interview ...just deepends
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Originally Posted by: joy0820  Generally speaking, we prepare and issue all certs for the same vacancy at the same time. Non comp and comp at the same time and managers pick who they want to interview ...just deepends Joy, I like reading your posts. Thanks for lending your expertise. Question on the OP's questions and your response. If someone qualifies for a non-competitive appointment, why would the hiring official, or manager, as you put it, "pick who they want to interview?" I always wanted to understand how "non-competitive" appointments work in context of the actual hiring process. Thanks.
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Thanks JOY! I would like to go on what the 2nd poster stated why would there be two lists wouldnt the whole "non competitive list" take out those on the competitive list out of the running? Thus truly being you would only be competiting with those on the "non competitive list" instead of both?
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Originally Posted by: WitUSG  Originally Posted by: joy0820  Generally speaking, we prepare and issue all certs for the same vacancy at the same time. Non comp and comp at the same time and managers pick who they want to interview ...just deepends Joy, I like reading your posts. Thanks for lending your expertise. Question on the OP's questions and your response. If someone qualifies for a non-competitive appointment, why would the hiring official, or manager, as you put it, "pick who they want to interview?" I always wanted to understand how "non-competitive" appointments work in context of the actual hiring process. Thanks. I can only speak from my nameless non defense agency experience. We only recruit government wide (which is current feds and those with special hiring eligibility - Schedule A, Peace Corps etc). I have known managers to hire someone non-competitive 30 percent disabled veteran over a current federal employee. It really depends who is the best fit for the position. Non-competitive just means you are either at that grade level currently meaning you have held that grade level or you are applying under a special hiring authority. To answer the interview question, if I have 30 candidates I am not going to interview everyone, mainly those who are the best fit for my position, organization and who have the skills or fit the model I am interested in.
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Originally Posted by: 312VET  Thanks JOY! I would like to go on what the 2nd poster stated why would there be two lists wouldnt the whole "non competitive list" take out those on the competitive list out of the running? Thus truly being you would only be competiting with those on the "non competitive list" instead of both? Not if its for the same job. Let's say your looking for a pear one list gives you red pears and one list gives you green pears...pick a pear. Same fruit different color. We issue all the lists to the manager and they can pick the applicants they are interested in. They only have to treat everyone the same...using the same criteria to determine who was interviewed and job related criteria for their selections.
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