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TLH  
#21 Posted : Sunday, July 26, 2015 5:37:59 PM(UTC)
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I go in tomorrow for my interview. I was also wondering about the mobility clause, how long your assignment would or could be at one location.
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#22 Posted : Sunday, July 26, 2015 5:52:38 PM(UTC)
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Completed my written and panel earlier this month. All seemed to go well. Awaiting my COE and subsequent med and BI. I applied under the status candidate announcement in 12/14. Anyone else in the process ?


I am in the same boat. Also applied in Dec/14.
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#23 Posted : Monday, July 27, 2015 8:55:51 AM(UTC)
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Hi TLH,

I received my COE and waiting for my Medical. Good Luck!!
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#24 Posted : Monday, July 27, 2015 9:16:12 AM(UTC)
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Hi TLH,

I received my COE and waiting for my Medical. Good Luck!!


Thank you!! It went really well!! What is a COE? haha I have no idea what that is. Good luck to you as well!!
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#25 Posted : Monday, July 27, 2015 9:35:59 AM(UTC)
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Conditional Offer of Employment.....
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#26 Posted : Tuesday, July 28, 2015 12:33:27 PM(UTC)

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When you interviewed you should have been given a stack of forms to sign that included DI Career Factsheet, Job Preview Checklist, Mobility Agreement and Addendum as well as the required Physical Standards. All of these forms required your signature. Its a through physical exam - vision, hearing, nose, mouth, throat, extremities, cardiovascular, lungs, genito-urinary, nervous system etc. If you didn't get a chance to review the Physical Standards then contact your recruiter. He/She should have had you review and sign a copy.

Ref the washout rate - hard to say. DEA management will tell you that the Basic Diversion Academy Training is the most difficult, academically, training course taught at the Academy. The Basic Agent School is the most physically demanding but they say the Diversion School is the most academically demanding. There have been classes where 10% fail and other classes where 100% graduate. It all depends on the class. It all depends on the attitude of the class. If everyone pulls together and helps those in need then everyone graduates. But if the class develops a "screw you I'm in it for me" attitude then there will be failures.
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#27 Posted : Tuesday, July 28, 2015 12:47:30 PM(UTC)

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How long you stay at one place depends a lot on you. How long do you want to stay? Do you want to travel? Do you want promotion? Some DIs have been at their duty stations almost their whole careers. Others move around for whatever reason. However, you have to keep in mind that the agency CAN move you against your will. That is the purpose of the mobility agreement. You don't want to move when they tell you - quit. Your assignments are dependent on the needs of the agency. But with that in mind, your career is pretty much in your hands. I've moved twice in 20 years but they were both my decisions. I know a few years back the DEA told several fairly new DIs they had to move - everyone of them quit rather than move. In my opinion it was their loss. Not the DEA's. I know many many DIs who have stayed in one office and retired from that office. So its all up to you. REMEMBER THERE ARE NO GUARANTEES.
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#28 Posted : Tuesday, July 28, 2015 6:10:25 PM(UTC)
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Thanks GearUp!!

Is the Background similar to the DHS (Investigator Contracted by OPM and in person interview, E QIP etc....)?
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#29 Posted : Wednesday, July 29, 2015 12:57:59 PM(UTC)

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If you make it through the written, the interview, the medical and the drug screen you'll need to complete the "SF86" via E-QIP. The investigation will be done either by an OPM investigator or an OPM contractor investigator. If all goes well you'll be granted a TS clearance. Now the reason DEA had the merit system/VEOP announcement (the one most of you applied under), was to get as many people currently holding security clearances in the pipeline in order to get a class filled in November. So if you hold a current clearance they will do a streamed lined background check.

The next vacancy announcement (which was suppose to be in June/July), was moved to October/November time frame. So if all goes well and as planned there will be an "all sources" vacancy announcement coming out this fall. HQ had to move it because they were/are overwhelmed trying to fill the upcoming November class.
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#30 Posted : Friday, July 31, 2015 7:54:40 AM(UTC)
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Here is my time line for this job (so far). Hopefully everyone else's is running along the same lines.

I applied to the announcement that was posted from 30 Dec 2014 to 16 Jan 2015. March 30th got an email saying that I was "selected to move forward in the Diversion Investigator application process" and that "As part of that process, the next step is to submit to a writing assessment which will be held .....on Wednesday, April 15, 2015 at 10:30 am. Once the writing test begins, it should not last more than 45 minutes." 11 May got an email stating "Congratulations in moving forward to the next step in the Diversion Investigator Applicant process – Interview Assessment. Per our conversation, we will meet you....on Wednesday, May 13, 2015 at 10:30 am." Had the panel interview, 3 gentlemen. Lots of questions, lots of explanations about the job and lots of forms (mobility agreement, Top 3 duty locations, etc) to sign. Now comes the waiting game that I was told would happen and that no news was good news. Right. On 16 June, I received a status update from USAJOBS saying I was referred. Strange since I had already been processing for the job so I figured either 1) something else was happening or 2) someone was finally updating the USAJOBS site a wee bit late. Being concerned, I contacted the hiring manager and was informed that "you did pass both the written assessment and the structured interview phases of this process and you were referred to the hiring manager." Great!! Now what? Wait, again. OK. I've been in the Army; I know the hurry up and wait game. 1 July, phone call, tentative job offer! Yippee!! 9 July, OnBoarding access notification and Conditional Offer Letter. 17 July, more forms. 28 July, Drug Screening. 31 July, Pre-Employment Medical package received. Now I have to wait for the doctor's office to schedule the physical.

And that is where I am at so far.
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#31 Posted : Friday, July 31, 2015 9:18:48 AM(UTC)
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Are AWS schedules available for DI's??
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DOC 2015,

By AWS you mean "alternative work schedule" the answer is no for field DIs. That's a general overall answer. There maybe the very rare office that does allow it but for the vast majority (if not all) of the field DIs the answer is no. The DIs (grade 14 and above) assigned to HQ can and many do work the AWS.
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Pinky145, I'm a few steps behind you, 8 July phone call tentative offer, 27 July, conditional offer email, Drug Questionnaire and Family Employment Form. I'm assuming Drug screening and Medical packet next week based off your timeline.

Only question is did you already start your data input into Onboarding? Also are you a current FED or do you have other status? I'm current and I'm hoping at least thats why I didn't get the onboarding info.
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#34 Posted : Wednesday, August 5, 2015 4:42:48 PM(UTC)
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I am currently a GS 11 and was offered GS 09 the DI position, will the DEA hold my rate of pay?
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#35 Posted : Monday, August 10, 2015 6:43:48 AM(UTC)

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They should match your pay to the closest step. Example - if you're an 11 step 2 they should offer you a 9 step 8 or 9. BUT the time to ask them about that is when they make the job offer. DON'T WAIT UNTIL YOU'RE ON BOARD!!! Don't wait until you're at the Academy. Once they lock you in they can't/won't change it. And you won't be able to do anything about it from Quantico. You won't have the time. So make sure you talk to them about you salary when the offer is made. The same goes for the post of duty offered. There is nothing wrong with asking them, when they ofer you a POD, if there is another location available. Again, once you get your assignment it's yours and you can't change it. The only way around it would be to earn the top student award then you can select any stateside location you want.
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#36 Posted : Monday, August 10, 2015 2:50:53 PM(UTC)
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GearUp,

Thanks for the valuable information.
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#37 Posted : Tuesday, August 11, 2015 8:07:44 PM(UTC)
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I would like to know how DI's promote from each Grade? Example in DHS if your hired with a career ladder position GS 09 to 13, each year (with acceptable performance) you are promoted to the next grade. Does the DEA also follow this same procedure?
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Yes. DIs are promoted each year provided their performance evals are acceptable. So if hired as a 9 this year, next year you should get promoted to 11 then spend a year as an 11 and then promote to a 12. The change come when promoting from a 12 to a 13. In that case you have to be a 12 for a least 3 years. Now you can submit a promotion package providing evidence that you are working at the 13 level and get it earlier than 3 years. Promotion to a 14 or a 15 is done through application to a vacancy announcement. Most DIs at HQ are grade 14s (there are a few 15s) but you have to apply for those positions. All field Group Supervisors are 14s. Most of our Program Managers (in the field) are 15s (a few are still 14s). Again, you have to apply.
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#39 Posted : Saturday, August 15, 2015 6:14:25 AM(UTC)
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What would you recommend as far as researching and preparing for the DI Academy? CSA, CFR Title 21, etc..... I would like to be well perpared for this training. Any advise would be greatly appreciated.
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#40 Posted : Saturday, August 15, 2015 11:29:08 AM(UTC)
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Also since the Academy will start in November, will there be breaks during Christmas? And how long are these breaks?
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