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from_panama  
#1 Posted : Tuesday, December 23, 2008 11:03:07 PM(UTC)
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Current and former NAIP professionals,

I have heard nothing but good things about the program; however, it's very limited information which does not give me a good idea what it's all about.

Can anyone elaborate about the NAIP, such as a typical day and where do you live during the internship, challenges, etc.
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#2 Posted : Wednesday, December 24, 2008 1:18:29 PM(UTC)
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I have some questions as well.

1. Is it true that the program has recently converted to NSPS pay scale oppose to GS? What are the advantages and dis-advantages?

2. Is this is a rotational program? The director i interviewed with said I can rotate to different offices like the program management office.

3. I have read great things and many posts recommending this program, why is it superior?

I'd appreciate everyone who is in the program or has completed the program to chime in!

Happy holidays!
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#3 Posted : Wednesday, December 24, 2008 9:32:25 PM(UTC)
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The little bit I know indicates that NAIP is under NSPS and you will rotate around to get exposure and experience in other agencies.
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#4 Posted : Saturday, January 10, 2009 5:13:51 AM(UTC)
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I received a call yesterday inquiring about whether or not I was still interested in the NAIP; anyone else? I was surprised because the closing date of the announcement is June 30th.

Also, the person I spoke with mentioned that it was a GS-7/9/11 versus what the announcement says (YA-1/2). Can anyone shed some light on this issue?
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#5 Posted : Tuesday, January 13, 2009 12:42:57 PM(UTC)
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This is my go to location for contract internships.
I am shut out from applying right now as I am waiting on my official transcript from my school.

http://www.fai.gov/FAIC/PaidInternships.asp
scroll down to the navy section

The reason you got a call already is because they stated that they will be reviewing applications frequently.
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#6 Posted : Tuesday, January 13, 2009 9:19:43 PM(UTC)
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Wannabe,

Thanks for replying, it seems like no one is very familiar with the NAIP. I've been on that website several times and have even applied to the GAMIP (Government-wide Acquisition Management Intern Program).

I was just trying to get some info from any individual who is or has participated in the NAIP. Have you applied to any other contract specialist positions?
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#7 Posted : Wednesday, January 14, 2009 1:38:07 AM(UTC)
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They really don't post their internships. I emailed several recruiters and only got a response from one of them. She emailed me the opening. Again I am waiting on my transcript for this one, it close before I graduate though. I will prob have to catch another class. The attachment that came with it basically states the same thing as other fcip openings.


Greetings from the General Services Administration!



Subject: Your application status with the General Services Administration


Dear Applicant:

Thank you for your interest in the U.S. General Services Administration (GSA), Federal Career Intern Program.

To be considered for employment, you must complete an “Assessment Questionnaire” (on-line or hard copy), which will tell us about your experience and education as well as a submit supplemental application materials (see details below).

The questionnaire below is specifically for the GS-05/07 grade levels. However, if you meet qualification requirements for the GS-09 grade level (see link below for Qualification Standards for this position/grade level), you will be referred at this grade level as well.

Open Period: Monday, March 10, 2008 to Monday, March 9, 2009. This is an open continuous announcement. Applications will be reviewed based on hiring needs. Applications received after midnight (Eastern Standard Time) on this date will not be considered. As vacancies become available, your application will be reviewed, and you maybe referred for consideration. If you are referred to a selecting official, you will receive an e-mail indicating the position and grade for which you have been referred.

Program/Appointment: Federal Career Intern Program/Excepted Service

Program Duration: 2 or 3 years

Position Title: Contract Specialist

Series/Grade: GS-1102-05/07/09

Promotion Potential: GS-12 (Competitive Service - permanent placement)

Starting Salaries: GS-05 - $31,751.00
GS-07 - $39,330.00
GS-09 - $48,108.00
Total Vacancies: To be determined (some, all, or no vacancies may be filled)





How to Apply


To apply for this position, you must provide a complete Application Package, which includes both of the following parts:
1. Your responses to the Assessment Questionnaire, and
2. Your résumé and any other documents specified in the Required Documents section of
the job announcement.

It is recommended that ALL applicants submit their applications on-line, however, paper copies of applications will be accepted (See “How to Apply” section of the attached job announcement for how these should be submitted). NO applications or supplemental information should be submitted to me; applications submitted to me will not be considered.

ALL applications should be submitted directly to the Office of Personnel Management (OPM) via its on-line system or by fax (See Instructions below on submitting applications and attached job announcement). ALL QUESTIONS REGARDING APPLICATION PROCEDURES FOR THIS JOB SHOULD BE DIRECTED TO THE OFFICE OF PERSONNEL MANAGEMENT, 215-861-3074, philadelphia@opm.gov.



Instructions


Instructions below are only provided to give a brief overview of application procedures for this job. It is advised that ALL applicants read the attached job announcement for details.


Step 1: Carefully read the vacancy announcement for this position (see attachment)

Step 2: Visit the Qualification Standards for the Contract Specialists: https://www.opm.gov/qualifications/sec-iv/b/gs1100/1102.htm or view Qualifications section of the job announcement below. This will help ensure that you know the education and/or experience needed for this position.


Step 3: Complete and submit an "Assessment Questionnaire" via the Office of Personnel Management's on-line system. See instructions below. Due to the length of the questionnaire, you may want to print a copy of this e-mail and complete the questionnaire by hand, prior to logging onto to this on-line system.

(1) Enter website address: https://applicationmanager.gov/ into web browser

(2) Set-up username and password: When you enter the website you will first need to create
an account by setting up a username and password. Once your username and password
are setup, you will need to enter a VIN number, which will take you directly to the
“Occupational Questionnaire”

(3) Enter VIN number for position: PH177287

(4) Complete application: Fill in biographic, eligibility, and other information. Complete
assessment questionnaire, submit your responses, and view and print your answers.


Step 4: Submit Supplemental Application Materials

PLEASE MAKE SURE THAT YOU UPLOAD ALL SUPPLEMENTAL DOCUMENTS (e.g., resumes, unofficial transcripts, Veteran forms, SF-50s, etc) to the OPM website. If you will be qualifying for this position on the basis of education or a combination of education and experience, FAILURE TO SUBMIT UNOFFICIAL TRANSCRIPTS WILL RESULT IN YOU BEING REMOVED FROM CONSIDERATION.

An electronic copy of your resume
A copy of your unofficial transcript(s) or a list of your college courses taken that identify for each course the college or university, semester or quarter hours earned, grade and grade-point received, if you are using education to qualify. Note that the transcript does not have to be an official copy. You can simply copy and paste your unofficial transcript into a Microsoft Word document from your school's website. If selected, you will be required to provide your official transcript(s).
Annotate your application and include the required documentation if you are applying and eligible for a non-competitive appointment such as Thirty Percent or More Disabled Veteran Appointment, Veteran Recruitment Appointment (VRA), Schedule A Appointment for people with disabilities, or Former Peace Corps Appointment.
If you are applying for Veterans' Preference, submit evidence of eligibility, such as: DD-214, Certificate of Release or Discharge from Active Duty, or Standard Form 15, Application for 10-Point Veterans' Preference, and the proof requested on the form.
If you are or have been a Federal employee, please submit a copy of your last Notification of Personnel Action, Form SF-50, and your most recent or last performance appraisal.
tchopper  
#8 Posted : Wednesday, January 14, 2009 1:46:30 AM(UTC)
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panama

It seems like the posters who are familiar with the NAIP program dont get on fedsoup anymore, like sierrablue and t-bone. It'd great if they can share their experience.
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#9 Posted : Wednesday, January 14, 2009 1:51:44 AM(UTC)
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To be honest, I shy away from FCIP appointments because the agency may or may not convert you to permanent after the internship period expires.

I just feel that there are many other opportunities to get your foot in the door in the contracting field, as long as you expand your search to as many locations and agencies as possible. I do not want to imply that it's easy, to the contrary, it's not based on many statements I've read on this forum.
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#10 Posted : Wednesday, January 14, 2009 1:56:46 AM(UTC)
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tchopper,

You're probably right; who knows, maybe they're very busy learning the job. If I'm lucky to get selected, I promise to share as much info as I know with the forum whenever I'm able to do so.
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#11 Posted : Thursday, January 15, 2009 11:12:11 AM(UTC)
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Panama...I have recently applied for the NAIP program under a couple of announcements one said that I was referred to the selecting official a week ago and still no call. I was wondering what qualifications you had as well as the vacancy ID on the application manager if you have that information. I am just concerned why I would not get chosen for the position after seeing so many people getting calls and getting chosen. Thank you in advance for all of your advice.
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#12 Posted : Thursday, January 15, 2009 11:34:33 AM(UTC)
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I was in this program many years ago (starting in '97). Back then, we were in the GS payscale. However, many offices has since switched to paybanding. There are good and bad things with this, but the goal is to be merit-based pay.

As part of the intern program, you spend months on travel to fulfill your acquisition training courses. You'll mostly be at acquisition schools at Army and Air Force bases in Ohio and Virginia. You also rotate around to different bases/commands to get your experience. When I was in the program, most people ended up at a headquarters command with a GS-13 upon completing the intern program. I'm not sure of the current policy on this, but they were trying to change it so that intern program graduates could not end up at headquarters--they had to be in field commands to gain more experience. This is good--you actually are more involved in programs (and less in PowerPoint) in the field. In the field, pay grades tend to be lower, so you'd probably end up as a 12. It's also a lot cheaper to live in the field than in the DC area (not to mention there is a lot less traffic!). Overall, intern graduates are generally "stars", and quickly end up with great opportunities and high paygrades. All of the rotations leave you well-connected. What I found is that you have to be very pro-active on your rotations. Otherwise, you might end up sitting there with nothing to really do, and not learning much.
Good luck to you all!
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#13 Posted : Thursday, January 15, 2009 11:34:49 AM(UTC)
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I received an interview scheduling email about 2 weeks after the notice. Had the interview on the 3rd week.

Found the announcement # from school's career site and applied in mid Nov.

As applying to all other Fed jobs, you have to be very patient.
tchopper  
#14 Posted : Thursday, January 15, 2009 11:36:52 AM(UTC)
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Great insight, thank you so much!
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#15 Posted : Thursday, January 15, 2009 11:37:33 AM(UTC)
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10 years ago, the people running the intern programs were a separate organization in Mechanicsburg, PA. They were very nice. But, they are not (and are not located near) NAVSEA, NAVAIR, or SPAWAR (or any other Navy acquisition command).
tchopper  
#16 Posted : Thursday, January 15, 2009 11:39:34 AM(UTC)
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I believe the hiring is done by Mechanicsburg but maybe the program is now run by the NACC.

I was doing some research online and found a typical NAIP grad can expect to make around $70k upon competion(GS-12 equ).

[This message was edited by tchopper on January 16, 2009 at 08:20 AM.]
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#17 Posted : Thursday, January 15, 2009 11:52:24 AM(UTC)
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Back in my day, Mechanicsburg did the hiring, paid us, organized a yearly intern conference, etc. Locally, each HQ command managed the intern program, helped you with your "Individual Development Plan" --planning your rotations, etc., and organized local gatherings.

I enjoyed the program--just make sure you don't get pigeon-holed into a career field you don't want. I came in through a special scholarship program. I applied early-on in grad school, they paid for grad school and gave me a stipend, and then I owed them time as a civilian. They put me in Logistics b/c I was picked up by the Navy supply command. I eventually transferred to NAVSEA, but was still in Logistics. I would have preferred Contracts Management.

A bunch of Log interns left DoD for other agencies, b/c they really didn't like it. Again, I enjoyed it, but would've preferred Contracts.
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#18 Posted : Friday, January 16, 2009 12:07:12 AM(UTC)
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LSBinVA,

Great information, that's what I've been seeking for a while. I know being in contracting is extremely demanding and tedious, but I'm willing to get in there and do the job.
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#19 Posted : Friday, January 16, 2009 12:46:00 AM(UTC)
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Chris,

I am a current federal employee in the 1702 field, (Training Technician). I'm also a vet drawing disability from the VA. I graduated from college this past December with a degree in Business Administration, (3.34 GPA).

I applied for through the disabled vet contract specialist announcement in the NAIP (BS 219714), that closes on June 30.
Those are my "qualifications", nothing special.
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#20 Posted : Saturday, January 17, 2009 3:10:07 AM(UTC)
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I was wondering how they chose people off that because my qualifications are exactly like yours that is weird that you got a call and I didn't. Mine said that I was tentatively qualified and not referred to the selecting official at this time because of the lack of vacancies. Another thing is that the class is going to commence around the beginning of June for that announcement I have no clue why the closing date says the 30th.
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