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DrRuthie  
#1 Posted : Wednesday, August 3, 2016 6:52:39 PM(UTC)
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Going from GS-11 step 5 to NH-02: can one expect to negotiate the new pay? Not assumption or what you think, but definitive yes or no from real experience.... It's basically a lateral so the pay calculator results in similar pay.

Pros/Cons other than lack of automatic periodic increases in GS?

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There is no negotiation is my understanding. I'm in demo now as NT-1910-04 which is same as GS-11/12 and the pay basically starts at GS-11 step 1 and ends with GS-12 step 10 (pay band). As there are no step increases pay is based on performance. I have been rated an outstanding contributor so I get basically the equivalent of a step increase every year. The only real advantage is there are no 2 year and 3 year waits for raises like under the GS system. I potentially can reach the max in much less time under demo than GS. It has its cons which are its can certainly be political and where I'm at it has to be funded every year, but basically if you are a performer its better. If you are not then stay GS.

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Originally Posted by: nembamike Go to Quoted Post
There is no negotiation is my understanding. I'm in demo now as NT-1910-04 which is same as GS-11/12 and the pay basically starts at GS-11 step 1 and ends with GS-12 step 10 (pay band). As there are no step increases pay is based on performance. I have been rated an outstanding contributor so I get basically the equivalent of a step increase every year. The only real advantage is there are no 2 year and 3 year waits for step increases like under the GS system. I potentially can reach the max in much less time under demo than GS. It has its cons which are its can certainly be political and where I'm at it has to be funded every year, but basically if you are a performer its better. If you are not then stay GS.


Good insight. Thank you
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Two different scenarios:

1) You are a current GS employee and have applied to an Acq Demo position. In this case you CAN negotiate. A 3-6% increase is normal, and it is essential that you do negotiate this going in. Even if it is a lateral, you still can negotiate your starting salary. If you don't negotiate , you are shooting yourself in the foot as future increases aren't guaranteed.

Source: I did it.

2) You are currently a GS employee and your command switches to Acq Demo. In this case, there is no negotiation. You simply do a buy-in and they give you a raise based on time served to your next step increase.
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J913 on 8/24/2017(UTC)
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