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futuredriven  
#1 Posted : Thursday, February 16, 2017 8:09:05 AM(UTC)
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Hello everyone,

I work for a federal government agency. I will be leaving the federal government to move to another state and work for city government. I would like to put in a leave notice of 4 weeks with the last 2 weeks using my annual leave. I have about 4 weeks total of annual leave. I know I should get the lump sump payment of whatever is left but I also hear that can take some time to receive and I do not want a break in pay between my old and new job, but I still have to have time to move and get my life together before my new job begins. I do understand I cannot use sick leave and my time accrued will remain with the federal government in case I come back. I only want to use my annual leave. So for example, if I put in my 4 weeks notice tomorrow my last day technically will be the 17th of march but with 2 weeks of leave my last day in the office will be March 3rd. Can I do this? I believe someone in my office did this but they were transferring agencies so I'm not sure if the rules are different because I am leaving all together. Any advice or guidance would be helpful!
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#2 Posted : Thursday, February 16, 2017 12:02:50 PM(UTC)

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You should double check with your Personnel Specialist but there should be no reason for you not to be able to request two weeks of annual leave for the last two weeks of your federal service. This is because either way your unused annual leave has to be paid to you.
ObiOne  
#3 Posted : Friday, March 10, 2017 9:54:02 AM(UTC)
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I was considering separation at one point and read that "terminal leave" (which this would be) is not allowed for federal employees.

From Fedweek:
"if you are a federal civilian employee, it isn’t a benefit that’s available to you when you retire. That matter was settled by the Comptroller General of the United States as far back as January 1945. In decision B-46683, 24 Comp. Gen 511, he stated that “terminal annual or vacation leave may not be granted immediately prior to separation from the service in any case where it is known in advance that the employee is to be separated from the service.”

Strict as that ruling appears to be, it doesn’t mean that you can’t take a few days off before you retire. You can, with the approval of your supervisor. However, for your boss to approve it, the amount you request needs to be reasonable. For example, if the date you set for retirement was Friday, December 28, asking to take leave on Friday the 21st, Monday the 24th and even Wednesday the 26th, wouldn’t appear to stretch the rule.

While there is no law or regulation that requires you to be at work on the day you retire, it’s clear from the Comptroller General’s decision that you and your boss should use discretion to avoid the appearance that you are taking terminal leave, which, as noted above, is forbidden."
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