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The Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) is an agency of the United States Department of Justice that serves as both a federal criminal investigative body and an internal intelligence agency. The FBI has investigative jurisdiction over violations of more than 200 categories of federal crime.

Headquartered in Washington, DC, the FBI has over 55 field offices located throughout the USA as well as smaller units throughout the world.

Perhaps you are working for the FBI or interested in working for the FBI. Here is a forum to share your experience with the FBI.

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JimB  
#1 Posted : Wednesday, August 02, 2017 10:41:26 AM(UTC)
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I'm currently a senior in college and will graduate in 2018 and was wondering what would my chances be if I applied to the FBI? I'm majoring in Criminal Justice and minoring in Political Science. I was just accepted into the Judicial Internship Program through my college and will start in the Fall Semester. I also have a 3.5 G.P.A and in a distinguished honor society.
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take a look at the current announcement and read through the qualifications and requirements. do you have what it takes right now? no, probably not, because you need to 1) graduate and 2) get some work experience.

work over the next 3-5 years to meet those qualifications and requirements, and then apply. then you'll see if you have what it takes.

the answer you probably want is the same answer that i wanted at your age. someone to tell you definitively yes or no. most will say they can't tell you a definitive yes or no. i'm inclined to do so as well.

but i'll try to give you what you want. yes, based on your known history to-date as expressed via your post assuming all is accurate, you appear to have what it takes via scholastic achievement and what sounds like a good internship program. keep on a good path, get a good job post-grad, stay in touch with a recruiter who can help you navigate your career, exercise, eat your wheaties, say your prays, take your vitamins, tell your mom you love her, and support boy scout fundraisers, and you should be good to go.

the below link is semi-relevant as well:
https://www.911jobforums...m/showthread.php?t=65369

basher52  
#3 Posted : Wednesday, August 02, 2017 1:11:26 PM(UTC)
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Hey, JimB.

You should be applauded for thinking ahead about your goals and opting for experiences (i.e., your judicial internship) that will make you a more competitive applicant for the FBI - or any law enforcement role, for that matter.

Review FBIjobs.gov to see what the minimum requirements entail for a position with the FBI. As the poster above me said, the FBI does require its applicants to have a minimum amount of professional work experience. In the meantime, his advice is good: Make solid choices - zealously guard your academic and personal integrity. Remember that you'll be called to account for every single questionable thing you've done or been party to during your application process with ANY federal LE agency. Stay fit, too. There are a lot of highly qualified people who can't hack it in the application process because they aren't physically prepared. In terms of things you can do to prepare and 'stack the deck' in your favor, make physical preparedness a nonissue for you.

Seek out leadership opportunities at your college and in your chosen line of work once you graduate. Volunteer for tough assignments and treat every experience as a tool that you can use to improve your character, leadership, and decision-making capabilities.

Check out some of the FBI Honors Internship programs if they interest you, too.

Good luck.

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#4 Posted : Wednesday, August 02, 2017 4:06:05 PM(UTC)
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Hey brother. Just letting you know I am in the same boat. Currently waiting until I am complete with my degree and waiting until the 3 year time frame is complete (in regards to the drug policy). Don't give up and work hard!
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#5 Posted : Wednesday, December 06, 2017 10:57:22 AM(UTC)
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I really don’t know why people don’t research before getting a worthless major. FBI has pretty much no use for CJ Grads. They look for people with degrees in accounting, business, IT, Foreign language.

I was told once that almost every position they get hundreds of street cops that apply for them.
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well, any major can be useless as it is highly individual dependent. i understand your point though, the supply of CJ majors is likely much greater than the demand. STEM is probably the best type of major you can get, as it could get you any type of job.

frankly, if your goal is to be a cop and/or go military and then get into the FLEO system, the CJ major wouldn't be a bad lead-in to either. many agencies besides the FBI probably cater more to that path than the professional path that the FBI does.

further, it's like, who would know any of this stuff unless you're told by a parent or a mentor? i had aspirations of the FBI since highschool and then picked a major that could be good for both private sector and the FBI. luckily i had caring parents, one in LE guiding me. but without that, idk how i would've found this path otherwise.
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#7 Posted : Wednesday, December 06, 2017 8:23:25 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Karl Racki Go to Quoted Post
I really don’t know why people don’t research before getting a worthless major. FBI has pretty much no use for CJ Grads. They look for people with degrees in accounting, business, IT, Foreign language.

I was told once that almost every position they get hundreds of street cops that apply for them.


Well, you're wrong. One of my degrees is supposedly a "worthless major" and it worked out for me...I am in the January class. They don't look at just your degree. They look at you as a whole person, your whole work experience, academics, etc. I have a BA in CJ and a BS in Forensic Science. I just graduated last year. All of my related work experience for this job was done before I even finished college. It's about so much more than your major.


App: 1/2017
P1: 2/2017
M&G: 3/2017
P2/PFT: 5/2017
PSI/Poly: 6/2017
Med Start: 08/2017
Adjudication: 9/2017
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#8 Posted : Thursday, December 07, 2017 6:20:09 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Karl Racki Go to Quoted Post
I really don’t know why people don’t research before getting a worthless major. FBI has pretty much no use for CJ Grads. They look for people with degrees in accounting, business, IT, Foreign language.

I was told once that almost every position they get hundreds of street cops that apply for them.


Well, you're wrong. One of my degrees is supposedly a "worthless major" and it worked out for me...I am in the January class. They don't look at just your degree. They look at you as a whole person, your whole work experience, academics, etc. I have a BA in CJ and a BS in Forensic Science. I just graduated last year. All of my related work experience for this job was done before I even finished college. It's about so much more than your major.




I agree. As long as you apply under one their background needs you will be fine. However, I have been seeing on the forum where IA applicants are delayed, because they are don’t possess a background in their critical skills of need. I think the IA route is more background specific, than the SA route. I could be wrong and this is all speculation from info I gathered on this forum.
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#9 Posted : Thursday, December 07, 2017 10:23:55 AM(UTC)
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From what I gather from my experience so far in the SA applicant process it seems that you just need to check the boxes on all of the minimum qualifications (see https://www.fbijobs.gov/...eer-paths/special-agents). After that it is how you tell your story, perform on the tests, and demonstrate that you possess https://www.fbijobs.gov/...etencies_Definitions.pdf . It's not really that mysterious of a process but it requires a lot of patience!

Edited by user Thursday, December 07, 2017 10:27:26 AM(UTC)  | Reason: corrected url

App - 4/16
BI - 9/17
Broadway  
#10 Posted : Thursday, December 14, 2017 7:07:49 AM(UTC)
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I will entirely disagree with @Poplou's belief that you don't have what it takes, but extras don't hurt. His recommendations are extreme at best as getting a 2nd bachelors does not do more and if going into accounting, engineering, IT or Mathematics was practical for most people everyone would do it. I did CJ because it was simple and tied into my background, then I got a Masters Degree in Public Administration. Yes a lot of people have degrees in CJ, doesn't change anything. Right now they want qualified people, just do more to stand out. Masters degrees can help. After that I became a cop for a couple years and got the job after I left law enforcement.

Those are all unspectacular things that a million other applicants have, I know because the agency I was at a good portion of cops have that similar highlights. What is your work history like because a couple years of a professional full time working environment helps to show who you are as a person. Take advantage of the opportunities around you at work, because I definitely had a couple extras that I earned as a cop that no one else at the agency I was at had. If you can pass Phase 1, 2 and 3 that's the bigger hurdle that separates most people who apply from the people who can get hired. A friend of mine got cut in Phase 2 and I never expected to make it this far due to similar career highlights but that is just a top layer thing.

Can you pass the PFT right now? Do you know to just be 100% honest on the polygraph? Does your background have enough strengths that it would be easy for a investigator to think you should get hired? You'll have to sell your abilities, personality and background at every step of the way. The Meet and Greet I met 12 applicants, with military, police and legal backgrounds. I only saw 1 of those people again and now the only other person my FO is sending is not that person.

This isn't to discourage you, or to seem braggadocious but just give you a heads up to be 100% ready. There are always better qualified applicants applying but are you the best you applying?
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Broadway  
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Are you more so just going off because I said I disagree with you or because I am giving different advice?

I'm not gonna go through your whole post arguing every point because the only goal here is to help others or get help.

For anyone looking for help you have 2 different opinions on here, pick whatever works best for you. There is no only 1 way to do this. I did it a way and if you search the forums you can see all kinds of people did it other ways.

Ask your local field office for advice but also be willing to make the call yourself. There are some people who have field offices that were super helpful and field offices that might just give you as much information as is listed on the website.

In looking at the job post you need a college degree and 3 years of full time professional experience and internships don't count. I'll post the requirements from the website below. So 2 bachelor's or 30 do not matter if you are missing the work history.



"Summer jobs, internships, seasonal positions, temporary employment and/or volunteer work are generally not considered in the professional work experience category.

In addition to the definition above, the FBI determines if an applicant meets the professional work experience requirement based on the general requirements needed to perform Special Agent duties.

Potential Exceptions:

Applicants with a master’s and/or advanced degree(s) require two years of full-time work experience at the time of application."
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Poplou - where do you stand in the process with the FBI? or are you a current FBI employee?

Broadway is slated for an academy, so i don't think he's talking out of school.
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@emaichbe03 Poplou provided valid methods exceeding the bare minimum requirements, regardless of current status in the process. I disagree with the recommendations based on my perception of degree of difficulty involved in those recommendations.

Let's not have a flame war or drive people away from posting for help for just having different ideas on how to accomplish the goal.

This forum was very helpful for me and I hope to provide help to the next generation of applicants who come on here seeking information.
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that's an odd progression of events that leaves me scratching my head.

i've only ever heard that getting assigned to a division in the FBI as a special agent is about as random of a process as there comes, regardless of your background.

in any event, the troll seems strong with you, so i'm saddened to be taking the bait.

and how tf can you have 4 posts and be thanked 5 times in 5 posts.
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@emaichbe03 don't take the bait to fight online. If my background is not competitive to a guy on the Internet that's fine. He says he got an offer and turned it down? Cool. You don't need a background in something to get put on a team that handles that. You can get training on the job. The agents I've talked to they got put on to all kinds of squads they have no background in.
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That's not the case but whatever you say.

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Are you wasting your time? Yes

Are you wasting my time? Yes

Many people go to school in person at night or on weekends. You can make comments and judgements but the deal here you are on here saying you turned down the job people are asking about.

I don't know what's your point on here now but no one is arguing with you any more.

Tons of Special Agents get put on squads where they have 0 background and have to learn. You could be a computer scientist and end up on a violent crimes task force.

Oh and you are welcome to be braggadocios and belittle people based on assumptions. Maybe you could learn from a CJ major/public admin graduate degree and learn how to interact with possible future coworkers. I don't have to challenge the crap talk because I proved myself already.
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If we compare the length of our posts and the frequency on this thread than it is clear that whose making this thread about them.

I will reframe from ever reading or referencing anything you mention again, please feel free to continue on.

Sorry everyone else on here. I normally don't feed trolls because then they just continue with the outlandishness but this negativity is not welcome here.
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I'm not going to get into this fight, I have no need or desire to fight online. To the OP, you will probably need more than a CJ degree to get in as an SA. However, do not get a bunch of degrees or enter the military simply to enhance your chances to get into the FBI. The odds of getting into the FBI are small. You would be very upset if you went into the military, hated it, and then didn't get in to the FBI. Also, the FBI changes on a daily basis. Who knows what the FBI will look for in 5 years. Yes, if you can speak a foreign language, are a computer guy, or are an engineer, you will have a better chance to get in the FBI, even in 10 years. Don't be discouraged though. Trust me when I tell you there are plenty of agents with CJ or sociology degrees. Also there are plenty of people who didn't make it into the FBI who have in demand degrees. The FBI wants people who are well rounded.

And let me tell you with 100% certainty, your degree DOES NOT dictate your career path in the FBI. First, SAs are not sent to the lab (for the most part). The FBI hires scientists to analyze DNA, not SAs. Every SA will deal with an AUSA at some point in their career, not just lawyers. If you get into the FBI with a CJ degree you have just as many opportunities to be an SAC in NY as the guy who has a cyber background. You will not be filing or other BS work as another poster stated. That is simply absurd and not how the FBI works. Sure, if you are a cyber guy, you will probably (not guaranteed) work in cyber. But I can tell you there are cyber guys on violent crime squads just like there are former cops working on white collar squads. Please don't follow your dream because one poster who is still in the process tells you that you don't have a chance. Only the AC in the office you are processing out of can tell you that you are wasting your time.
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