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cyber_ninja  
#1 Posted : Monday, February 19, 2018 7:19:35 AM(UTC)
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I got my CJO around March 2015, BI finished August 2015, third poly November 2015. This is for a DoD position with TS/SCI clearance. Pretty much nothing since then. I check in with my HR person every few months but the response is the same: still in active investigation.

I haven't been paying attention to the state of the clearance system of late. Is it safe to assume that I am just caught up in this horrendous backlog? Should I just abandon all hope and move on? I would appreciate any stories you have, or any advice you could offer.
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You should contact your congressperson. Someone is sitting on your file, and they ought to be embarrassed. Keep in mind the resolution may be a SOR that they didn't want to issue, but will be finally forced to.
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3 years usually means one of two things: the security people completely screwed up or they don’t want to issue a clearance and are hoping you’ll withdraw from the process if it takes long enough. Either way, I would either contact my Congressman or move on with my life.
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#4 Posted : Sunday, March 04, 2018 5:12:33 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: cyber_ninja Go to Quoted Post
I check in with my HR person every few months but the response is the same: still in active investigation.

Just curious... do they ever reach out to you, like to make sure you're still interested or anything?

I don't know if you would get anything at this point, but a privacy act/freedom of information act request might at least get something. I just don't know if that will get any results if the case is still "open."
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The backlog involves too many cases and not enough investigators (to really simplify the issue). If your Bl closed three years ago, your case is sitting at the Agency somewhere.
*DISCLAIMER*Correctly filling out your security forms will not guarantee you a clearance in 3 months BUT be sloppy and your case will be in the field a heck of a lot longer, guaranteed.
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#6 Posted : Sunday, March 04, 2018 1:27:59 PM(UTC)
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To the OP, I am in the exact same boat. Interviewed with IC Agency in Feb. of 2015, CJO in March or very early April 2015. I call in once a month and am told I am still "in the process." I went through all of the psysh/poly stuff in 2015. BI started in March 2016 and i think went through the end of 2016. Apart from some minor things in between end of 2016 and now, I did have to send them some documents in October of last year (2017), but that's the last time I have had to do anything. Never thought in my wildest dreams that I would be in this position three years later lol.

Best of luck on the rest of your process!

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Originally Posted by: liaisonguy Go to Quoted Post
You should contact your congressperson. Someone is sitting on your file, and they ought to be embarrassed. Keep in mind the resolution may be a SOR that they didn't want to issue, but will be finally forced to.


Why would an agency not want to issue an SOR for?
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#8 Posted : Thursday, March 29, 2018 7:31:04 AM(UTC)
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I check in with my HR person every few months but the response is the same: still in active investigation.

Just curious... do they ever reach out to you, like to make sure you're still interested or anything?

I don't know if you would get anything at this point, but a privacy act/freedom of information act request might at least get something. I just don't know if that will get any results if the case is still "open."


They did one time about 18 months ago.

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You may need to find out who the security manager is. I'll be honest - most HR are clueless when it comes to security background checks. If they don't hear anything from the SM they just assume it's 'in the works'. Realistically it could of been cleared already or maybe an SOR was issued. HR would never get that information and for the most part, security manager's don't just check up on people daily.
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#10 Posted : Thursday, March 29, 2018 8:00:12 PM(UTC)
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I am thoroughly disgusted about the management of the security clearance program. It is unconscionable that it takes this long.

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#11 Posted : Friday, March 30, 2018 10:30:23 AM(UTC)
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You may need to find out who the security manager is. I'll be honest - most HR are clueless when it comes to security background checks. If they don't hear anything from the SM they just assume it's 'in the works'. Realistically it could of been cleared already or maybe an SOR was issued. HR would never get that information and for the most part, security manager's don't just check up on people daily.


I call and email the HR person regularly but the response is always the same. The program manager keeps referring me back tot he HR person. I've asked for the security person contact number but they will not give it. The HR person basically said that security is a completely separate org and the only info they have is what is in the computer.
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#12 Posted : Friday, March 30, 2018 10:31:50 AM(UTC)
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I am thoroughly disgusted about the management of the security clearance program. It is unconscionable that it takes this long.



I knew I would be in for a long ride but this is over the top. I actually don't even care what the answer is now I just want to know so I can close this chapter off and move on. There was a time when I thought this was the most important thing I would ever do, but that feeling has faded away to ambivalence.
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#13 Posted : Thursday, April 12, 2018 3:15:35 PM(UTC)

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Did you ever contact your Senator or Congressmen?
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#14 Posted : Sunday, April 15, 2018 3:50:12 PM(UTC)
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Did you ever contact your Senator or Congressmen?


Yes, no luck. No response.
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#15 Posted : Sunday, April 15, 2018 6:29:57 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: cyber_ninja Go to Quoted Post
I knew I would be in for a long ride but this is over the top. I actually don't even care what the answer is now I just want to know so I can close this chapter off and move on. There was a time when I thought this was the most important thing I would ever do, but that feeling has faded away to ambivalence.

You've probably read my other posts where I reported how it took over three years for an IC agency to reach final adjudication on the periodic update on my TS/SCI as a contractor. I was by no means the only person at that company in the same boat. So this sort of wait is not entirely unprecedented.

Doesn't make it any better though.
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#16 Posted : Tuesday, April 17, 2018 11:29:41 AM(UTC)
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Dont worry you're not alone in this. Im currently at the 3 year mark this week. Congress/senate hasnt done much for me. Ive been doing a lot of unclassified work and its getting to the point where I am looking outside of the government space, but then again we are this far.
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What agency is this for?
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