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#1 Posted : Tuesday, March 06, 2018 10:05:04 AM(UTC)
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I am sure this has been covered multiple times but I want to ask it again.

What is your experience working at DIA HQ on day to day basis? And what kind of quality of life someone can expect living in DC with a growing family? Commute times vs living close the HQ? DIA HQ vs Tampa?

What do you guys think in a nutshell?

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#2 Posted : Tuesday, March 06, 2018 2:24:29 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Gujjar Go to Quoted Post
I am sure this has been covered multiple times but I want to ask it again.

What is your experience working at DIA HQ on day to day basis? And what kind of quality of life someone can expect living in DC with a growing family? Commute times vs living close the HQ? DIA HQ vs Tampa?

What do you guys think in a nutshell?
When I worked at the DIAC I lived in Upper Marlboro, MD and then moved to Waldorf. I worked really early like 0600 and the commute was ok. It really is what you make of it. I didn't have a problem there but some people couldn't stand working there.

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#3 Posted : Tuesday, March 06, 2018 4:56:21 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Gujjar Go to Quoted Post
I am sure this has been covered multiple times but I want to ask it again.

What is your experience working at DIA HQ on day to day basis? And what kind of quality of life someone can expect living in DC with a growing family? Commute times vs living close the HQ? DIA HQ vs Tampa?

What do you guys think in a nutshell?
When I worked at the DIAC I lived in Upper Marlboro, MD and then moved to Waldorf. I worked really early like 0600 and the commute was ok. It really is what you make of it. I didn't have a problem there but some people couldn't stand working there.



When you said “some people can’t stand working there” what do you mean by that?

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#4 Posted : Tuesday, March 06, 2018 5:45:32 PM(UTC)
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A lot of senior officers prance around. If you make enemies here, they'll follow you later.

In contrast, if you make a good impression... those connections will also follow you later.



How easy or hard is it for entry-level employees to make enemies of senior officers, whether active-duty or retired?

I did read this in one review of DIA on Glassdoor.com: "Good old boy and girl networks are pervasive, the worst of which are retired military colonels. The vast majority of them do not know how to manage civilians, and treat the civilian workforce as second rate. DIA performs like a job corps for the retired military."

https://www.glassdoor.co...e-Agency-RVW16028921.htm

Now granted, we should take this with a grain of salt, as we should all negative reviews. However, I wonder how much truth there is to this? Other negative reviews of DIA also complain about the "old boys club," and people say that the "old boys club" exists throughout the federal government.
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#5 Posted : Tuesday, March 06, 2018 5:47:25 PM(UTC)
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You also need to watch out for the psychotic janitors, especially the big guy with the pink necktie.
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#6 Posted : Tuesday, March 06, 2018 6:20:59 PM(UTC)
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A good way to not make enemies is to keep your nose in your own business, don’t be a know it all, nod and be patient when people explain something to you, even when you already know it, don’t talk *****, don’t be lazy, don’t take stupid ass long breaks, so take appointments all the time and not be around, don’t suck up to people on your knee pads, and stay in your lane.

Good old boy system is not always a bad thing. A lot of times it means you need to be on the inside track, which means you need to network. Sometimes it is complete *****, other times it means you need to be diplomatic.

These organizations are very much politics, and who you know is just as important as what you know, especially when talking about jobs where senior leaders are appointed.

I’ve worked in an Intel center and I’m working in a location where DIA is present in a 2 Star Command/OPS Center under a 4 Star Command. I’m not *IN* the IC right now, but I work near very near them, and have worked with other agencies. This is pretty much standard.

Show up, do good work, put in the hours, don’t have an attitude, and don’t ***** off. It’s 8 hours a day. It’s easy to not make enemies.
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#7 Posted : Tuesday, March 06, 2018 8:31:01 PM(UTC)
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The DIAC isn't bad. It can be a bit more stuffy depending on who you talk to, but the commute is the only thing that is objectively bad. Less bad than a lot of other agencies though.

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#8 Posted : Wednesday, March 07, 2018 3:53:02 AM(UTC)
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It seems like a great place to start your career just given the amount of people and proximity to other agencies you'll work together with on stuff. The amount of layers in the bureaucracy is crazy though. You probably could cut out half the management with no noticeable effect.

The commute is amazing if you live in Alexandria. On bad days the longest its taken me is 22 minutes to get into work. It's shorter than my old commute in Ohio somehow haha.

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#9 Posted : Tuesday, March 13, 2018 6:51:51 AM(UTC)
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Thank you everyone for their help but I have declined the FJO for HQ and waiting for my third and final FJO.
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#10 Posted : Tuesday, March 13, 2018 6:54:55 AM(UTC)
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Thank you everyone for their help but I have declined the FJO for HQ and waiting for my third and final FJO.


Why did you decline your first FJO? Was it because of the location or something about the billet itself?
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#11 Posted : Tuesday, March 13, 2018 7:05:59 AM(UTC)
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Location. I just don't like DC.

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#12 Posted : Tuesday, March 13, 2018 7:08:24 AM(UTC)
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Location. I just don't like DC.


Well, what will you do if your third FJO is also for a billet in DC?
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#13 Posted : Tuesday, March 13, 2018 7:14:56 AM(UTC)
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Location. I just don't like DC.


Well, what will you do if your third FJO is also for a billet in DC?


I thought about it but not made a decision if it comes to it. I guess it depends when they send me the final FJO. I know one thing though, if that happens then that will be a very tough decision for me.
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I understand not liking the DC area. I will say that I would recommend buying property out here if you are planning to stay for a few years. You will get a lot on equity over time.
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#15 Posted : Tuesday, March 13, 2018 8:20:05 AM(UTC)
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I understand not liking the DC area. I will say that I would recommend buying property out here if you are planning to stay for a few years. You will get a lot on equity over time.


That’s my plan. About once a week I scan Zillow.
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I understand not liking the DC area. I will say that I would recommend buying property out here if you are planning to stay for a few years. You will get a lot on equity over time.


That’s my plan. About once a week I scan Zillow.


That's a great idea. I am going to start doing that.
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#17 Posted : Tuesday, March 13, 2018 9:31:15 AM(UTC)
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I understand not liking the DC area. I will say that I would recommend buying property out here if you are planning to stay for a few years. You will get a lot on equity over time.


That’s my plan. About once a week I scan Zillow.


That's a great idea. I am going to start doing that.


Yea I have some places I like saved in almost places i could end up.
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#18 Posted : Tuesday, March 13, 2018 9:51:38 AM(UTC)
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That is smart!
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#19 Posted : Wednesday, March 14, 2018 2:07:11 PM(UTC)
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Thank you everyone for their help but I have declined the FJO for HQ and waiting for my third and final FJO.



Why would you do that? A lot of us are waiting to get an FJO and you decline twice? You can move around MD or VA, plus you are not going to be there forever. You can always PCS.
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#20 Posted : Wednesday, March 14, 2018 2:53:21 PM(UTC)
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Grr...found out my entire like center is being reorganized next week and my job might be different. Kinda annoying... pls just let me go work on China/N Korea stuff instead like I eventually will anyways haha.
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