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DetroitDogDodger  
#1 Posted : Tuesday, June 12, 2018 5:49:05 PM(UTC)
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I am an FTR Carrier and am having a very hard time st my new station. I have to call back everyday and that's with them taling time of my routes. I am having a hard time even sleeping at night cause I value my job more than anything and am a hard worker. I have extreme anxiety and thoughts that I am gonna be let go 😞.
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#2 Posted : Tuesday, June 12, 2018 6:01:38 PM(UTC)

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What exactly is the problem compared to where you were before? What is different that is making the routes harder?
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#3 Posted : Tuesday, June 12, 2018 6:28:20 PM(UTC)
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VOLUME easily 4 to 5 times more than what I was used to. Never had retail me not's or FSS. Everyday they are sending help and I am still behind.
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#4 Posted : Tuesday, June 12, 2018 6:29:36 PM(UTC)
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I make sure to call back everyday but sooner or later.......
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#5 Posted : Tuesday, June 12, 2018 6:37:33 PM(UTC)
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You are not slow. The route is to big. They can not fire a regular for being on an over burdened route. Repeat to yourself
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#6 Posted : Tuesday, June 12, 2018 6:42:53 PM(UTC)
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As long as you're doing your best every day, and working safely, they can't do anything to you. Continue to give them honest estimates in the morning, and if you need to revise that estimate on the street, send them a message through the scanner as soon as you're able to.
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#7 Posted : Tuesday, June 12, 2018 6:49:30 PM(UTC)
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Thanks for the replies EVERYONE. I am just trying to put myself at ease cause I I lost this job I dont know what I would do.
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#8 Posted : Tuesday, June 12, 2018 6:58:32 PM(UTC)
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Since it sounds like you need more reinforcement, I'll repeat also: you are not too slow; the routes are too long for you. Everyone is different, and it's possible the routes are the right length for someone else, just not for you. It's also possible that the routes are too long for anyone to do properly; this often happens due to mgmt tricks and/or carriers being stupid, doing things like working off the clock.

You cannot be disciplined whatsoever (let alone be fired) for being slower than mgmt wants. It's as simple as that. Even if you get 4 hours of help and still go 12 hours, it doesn't matter as long as you're working honestly and in the correct way.

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#9 Posted : Tuesday, June 12, 2018 7:01:35 PM(UTC)
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Pretty much EVERYONE there is at their cases working off the clock minimum of 30 minutes to BT probably longer. I am there 30 minutes early everyday and there are even people loading things ibto their vehicles?!?!
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#10 Posted : Tuesday, June 12, 2018 7:06:39 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: DetroitDogDodger Go to Quoted Post
Pretty much EVERYONE there is at their cases working off the clock minimum of 30 minutes to BT probably longer. I am there 30 minutes early everyday and there are even people loading things ibto their vehicles?!?!


You're sure they're working off the clock? Sometimes ODL carriers are assigned to come in early.

I would try to report this to the union - they may be able to do something about it. I can't imagine anything more stupid than working off the clock. If they get hurt, they will not be covered by workers comp and will likely be fired.
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#11 Posted : Tuesday, June 12, 2018 7:20:22 PM(UTC)
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They are not on the ⏰. They all migrate to the ⏰ like 2 units before BT. I actually mentioned it to one of the supervisors and his response was. " Well Yeah we get a lot of mail"
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#12 Posted : Tuesday, June 12, 2018 7:21:29 PM(UTC)
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At my old station we were not even allowed on the floor until BT. Our Steward would not let anyone work without being paid.
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#13 Posted : Tuesday, June 12, 2018 7:45:33 PM(UTC)
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are you filling a form 3996 before leaving???


http://www.branch38nalc....rfiles/5_PSFORM_3996.pdf

if not you should be!!!
Postal employee (retired) 38 yrs who helps even if some do not believe me! I was a Steward, officer & trouble maker. Just Sayin'
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#14 Posted : Tuesday, June 12, 2018 8:10:32 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Seadogg Go to Quoted Post
I can't imagine anything more stupid than working off the clock. If they get hurt, they will not be covered by workers comp and will likely be fired.


That is incorrect, they would definitely be covered by workman's comp. It also have nothing to do with the fact that USPS is legally and contractually obligated not to allow them to work off the clock. It is a violation of law & the national bargaining agreements. It's one thing to fudge a couple minutes once in a while, but that's a lot different than multiple carriers working daily off the clock in order get the mail out.
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#15 Posted : Wednesday, June 13, 2018 7:06:36 AM(UTC)
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and if you get hurt off the clock what do you believe management will do to you?

letter of warning?

suspension?


don't work off the clock it is NOT worth it.
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#16 Posted : Wednesday, June 13, 2018 8:24:50 AM(UTC)

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Years ago there was a carrier somewhere in the northeast they tried to get for taking shorter than normal strides in her step length.

Refusing to do what they tell you to do if they correct a time wasting practice is the only valid reason for discipline
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#17 Posted : Wednesday, June 13, 2018 9:06:57 AM(UTC)
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Fill out a aux slip everyday. The steward should file a grievance so the carriers working off the clock gets paid that would put a stop to that.
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#18 Posted : Wednesday, June 13, 2018 11:47:57 AM(UTC)
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Everything is on your side as long as you are working diligently and safely. Hopefully that put your mind at ease. If you have been there long enough you could put in for a 271.g special inspection so the route will be adjusted to you. Contractually the routes have to be adjusted to the regular that is on them. Don't beat yourself up because you can't do the route like someone else did. We have protections!
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#19 Posted : Thursday, June 14, 2018 12:05:49 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: DetroitDogDodger Go to Quoted Post
I am an FTR Carrier and am having a very hard time st my new station. I have to call back everyday and that's with them taling time of my routes. I am having a hard time even sleeping at night cause I value my job more than anything and am a hard worker. I have extreme anxiety and thoughts that I am gonna be let go 😞.



Has anyone said anything to you about time? They know how long the route takes. Not that you should compare yourself to others but does the person who carries the route on your day off come back a lot sooner than you do? If you transferred in and you got the route, chances are high it's the worst route in the office. If it was a good route, someone already in the office would have bid on it. Carry it as it should be carried and try not to worry about it. If you haven't had someone walk with you then it's because they know it's overburdened. If a supervisor thought you were being slow then they would definitely walk with you and point out ways to "help" you speed up.
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Hannah Blector  
#20 Posted : Thursday, June 14, 2018 2:42:53 PM(UTC)
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You can get fired for working too fast if you ignore safety or work unsafely. Lots of runners have found out there is no reward for their "good deeds".
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