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Are you considering relocating your federal career - either by your choice or by Uncle Sam? There are practical issues and concerns to think about when deciding whether or not to relocate. Others have done it while still others have not. This forum will allow for all to offer their insight, post their questions, and help each other out.

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dodsan  
#1 Posted : Wednesday, July 18, 2018 8:10:31 PM(UTC)
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Anyone have any experience with coming back from an OCONUS tour and what PCS entitlements are given by the losing (OCONUS) command when you return back to the old job or a new position in the US?

Do you get the same benefits like Foreign Transfer Allowance, TQSA, etc. when you move back? I understand that the losing command will cover the HHG shipment, but was not sure about the other entitlements associated with PCS.

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It's basically the same but don't forget that it must be on your orders otherwise you won't be able to claim it.

Note - if you are a civilian due to the changes made from the new tax law effective 1-1-18, the entire amount of your move is now considered income and is taxable. Because it is a sizable amount be careful as this may set you into a higher tax bracket. This tax does not apply to uniformed personnel PCS = civilians f00ked in the @$$ basically.
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#3 Posted : Tuesday, October 02, 2018 4:46:52 AM(UTC)
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Depends ... are you rotating back to a new job? PPP hit?

Lets say you moved OCONUS from DC and found a new job in California. They will pay for your HHG shipment back to DC .. you have to pay the difference to California.

Now say you had a PPP hit for that job in Cali .. they would pay HHG all the way...TQSE .. all them bennies.

Unit moved you OCONUS.. they will pay to move you back. But to what extent all depends....
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#4 Posted : Tuesday, October 02, 2018 10:51:49 PM(UTC)
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Great question! You will definitely have HHG, vehicle shipment and 10 days TQSE covered leaving the OCONUS duty (if you fulfilled your service requirements) My question is about entitlements upon returning to your old duty location, would an employee be entitled to TQSE? I received both when I left.

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Depends ... are you rotating back to a new job? PPP hit?

Lets say you moved OCONUS from DC and found a new job in California. They will pay for your HHG shipment back to DC .. you have to pay the difference to California.

Now say you had a PPP hit for that job in Cali .. they would pay HHG all the way...TQSE .. all them bennies.

Unit moved you OCONUS.. they will pay to move you back. But to what extent all depends....



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#5 Posted : Tuesday, October 09, 2018 3:37:08 PM(UTC)
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I got some answers (but understand that each situation is unique and may be different):

Leaving OCONUS, I get:
*HHG, Express, Pro-gear Shipment
*TQSA=10 Days of lodging/perdiem prior to my flyout date
*one-way airline tickets to the new duty station or to my actual residence

Once I arrive CONUS, I get:
*TQSE=30 days lodging/perdiem (can be longer with command approval for special circumstances)
*Holding of Non-temporary Storage for about 1 more month before I am required to have it delivered or retrieve it

Biggest differences are: no foreign transfer allowances, no 3-month advance pay loans, and the duration of TQSE at the new duty station

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#6 Posted : Monday, October 15, 2018 12:10:28 PM(UTC)
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Federal Travel Regulation
https://www.gsa.gov/cdnstatic/FTR.pdf

Returning from OCONUS to CONUS is page 180 or search for §302-3.101

Column 1—
Relocation allowances that agency must pay or reimburse

(1) Transportation & per diem for employee & immediate family member(s) (Part 302-4 of this chapter).
(2) Temporary quarters subsistence expense (TQSE) (Part 302-6 of this chapter).
(3) Miscellaneous expense allowance (Part 302-16 of this chapter).
(4) Sell & buy residence transaction expenses or lease termination expenses (Part 302-11 of this chapter).
(5) Transportation & temporary storage of household goods (Part 302-7 of this chapter).
(6) Extended storage of household goods only when assigned to a designated isolated official station in CONUS (Part 302-8 of this chapter).
(7) Relocation income tax allowance (RITA) (Part 302-17 of this chapter).

Column 2—
Relocation allowances that agency has discretionary authority to pay or reimburse

(1) Shipment of a privately owned vehicle (Part 302-9 of this chapter).

I ended up paying 17% of the cost myself in taxes (after WTA and RITA were applied). That was wildly unexpected since I PCSed before January 1, 2018 but I was still on the hook because my agency didn't pay the bill until March. The rule didn't even come out until May.
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