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#1 Posted : Wednesday, October 10, 2018 1:58:49 PM(UTC)
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#2 Posted : Wednesday, October 10, 2018 3:11:45 PM(UTC)
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didn't click your link, just what I saw at work, it didn't list the proposed prices for 1st class packages, but most of the 'common' stuff was up nearly 10%

first class stamp up 10%, but the cost of sending a 2 ounce letter is the same because additional ounce stamps down nearly 25%?

makes no sense to me...I get that UPS/FEDEX start at like $7 for a parcel, is that where the Post Office is headed...think of the ripple effect...will this raise what Amazon pays?...then the cost of Prime will go up, Amazon will look at more independent contract workers to deliver...
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#3 Posted : Wednesday, October 10, 2018 5:04:34 PM(UTC)

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You would think an early out would happen for all crafts.
Since 30% of career carriers are former cca's I don't see
why it shouldn't happen..
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#4 Posted : Wednesday, October 10, 2018 6:28:49 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Postalworker Go to Quoted Post
You would think an early out would happen for all crafts.
Since 30% of career carriers are former cca's I don't see
why it shouldn't happen..


early out? for who?

do you mean layoffs?
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#5 Posted : Wednesday, October 10, 2018 7:01:40 PM(UTC)
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ARTICLE 6
NO LAYOFFS OR REDUCTION IN FORCE
(1) Each employee who is employed in the regular work
force as of the date of the Award of Arbitrator James J. Healy,
September 15, 1978, shall be protected henceforth against any
involuntary layoff or force reduction.
It is the intent of this provision to provide security to each
such employee during his or her work lifetime.
Members of the regular work force, as defi ned in Article 7 of
the Agreement, include full-time regulars, part-time employees
assigned to regular schedules and part-time employees assigned
to fl exible schedules.
(2) Employees who become members of the regular work
force after the date of this Award, September 15, 1978, shall
be provided the same protection afforded under (1) above
on completion of six years of continuous service and having
worked in at least 20 pay periods during each of the six years.
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#6 Posted : Wednesday, October 10, 2018 7:19:06 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: postalvet Go to Quoted Post
ARTICLE 6
NO LAYOFFS OR REDUCTION IN FORCE
(1) Each employee who is employed in the regular work
force as of the date of the Award of Arbitrator James J. Healy,
September 15, 1978, shall be protected henceforth against any
involuntary layoff or force reduction.
It is the intent of this provision to provide security to each
such employee during his or her work lifetime.
Members of the regular work force, as defi ned in Article 7 of
the Agreement, include full-time regulars, part-time employees
assigned to regular schedules and part-time employees assigned
to fl exible schedules.
(2) Employees who become members of the regular work
force after the date of this Award, September 15, 1978, shall
be provided the same protection afforded under (1) above
on completion of six years of continuous service and having
worked in at least 20 pay periods during each of the six years.


I am aware we need 6 years to be safe. Hopefully they will start counting CCA years
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#7 Posted : Wednesday, October 10, 2018 8:31:14 PM(UTC)
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Former CCAs should know how fast attrition will take care of any perceived excess workers.

From the 30% or so CCAs who stay you could then subtract any who would not stay if there was very little work for them or little chance to make regular. We have regulars quit in my office after hiring on as CCAs.

And CSRS employees have 35 and more years in now. So pretty soon they will all be eligible to retire and in 6 or so years they will all be working for peanuts.
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#8 Posted : Wednesday, October 10, 2018 9:31:26 PM(UTC)
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What magical Christmas land office are you people working at that has an excess of carriers?
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#9 Posted : Thursday, October 11, 2018 4:28:09 AM(UTC)

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Originally Posted by: Postalworker Go to Quoted Post
You would think an early out would happen for all crafts.
Since 30% of career carriers are former cca's I don't see
why it shouldn't happen..


Because for a city carrier it is not just volume but distance walked/driven, especially in the DPS era. No longer do we spend half of our day at the case preparing the route. Walking to a delivery point to drop of a single Advo takes about as much time as walking with 5 first class DPS letters and an Advo. Unless Congress forces a cut in delivery days or centralized delivery mode to all the grandfathered in doorstep delivery points the carrier force is not getting any leaner or meaner.
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#10 Posted : Thursday, October 11, 2018 5:50:17 AM(UTC)

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You would think an early out would happen for all crafts.
Since 30% of career carriers are former cca's I don't see
why it shouldn't happen..


early out? for who?

do you mean layoffs?


What I mean is if 20,000 carriers accepted a early out usps
would save hundreds of millions of dollars.
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#11 Posted : Thursday, October 11, 2018 6:36:16 AM(UTC)
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You would think an early out would happen for all crafts.
Since 30% of career carriers are former cca's I don't see
why it shouldn't happen..


early out? for who?

do you mean layoffs?


What I mean is if 20,000 carriers accepted a early out usps
would save hundreds of millions of dollars.


and then you would have 20,000 routes with no one to deliver what mail there is!
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#12 Posted : Thursday, October 11, 2018 8:17:47 AM(UTC)
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"the carrier force is not getting any leaner or meaner."

I know this was regarding the carrier force as a whole.

But I encourage all individual carriers to be both leaner and meaner.
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#13 Posted : Thursday, October 11, 2018 8:18:03 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Hannah Blector Go to Quoted Post
Former CCAs should know how fast attrition will take care of any perceived excess workers.

From the 30% or so CCAs who stay you could then subtract any who would not stay if there was very little work for them or little chance to make regular. We have regulars quit in my office after hiring on as CCAs.

And CSRS employees have 35 and more years in now. So pretty soon they will all be eligible to retire and in 6 or so years they will all be working for peanuts.




To not loose any of the pension you need to have 30 years of service and be at your MRA.

Last CSRS employee hired prior to 1983.

Doing some quick math.

1983 + 30 yrs = year 2013 to be eligible for retirement with now reduction in benefits.

1983 - age 18 = 1965, year of birth to be eligible for CSRS employment

MRA for those born in 1965 is age 56 and 2 months.

1965 + 56 = year 2021

So the last of the CSRS employees will be eligible to retire in 2021

There may be a few of those still out there.

Of the CSRS employees I know, they are all well above the MRA.

EDIT:

Covered Active Employeesa

................CSRS.........FERS........Total

FY2016 .....159,000......2,529,000 ....2,688,000

Percentage distribution

.................5.9..........94.1..........100

Out of all the federal employees, only 6% were covered by CSRS in 2016. The trend seems to be a loss of 2% each year. So we are likely down to 4% (or less) in 2018

https://www.everycrsrepo...8-972.html#_Toc505615483

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#14 Posted : Thursday, October 11, 2018 9:31:39 AM(UTC)

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early out? for who?

do you mean layoffs?


What I mean is if 20,000 carriers accepted a early out usps
would save hundreds of millions of dollars.


and then you would have 20,000 routes with no one to deliver what mail there is!

It would closer to 2,000 than 20,000..
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#15 Posted : Thursday, October 11, 2018 9:44:45 AM(UTC)
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Postmaster at my office posted today that prices are going up, starting January 27th. Wow, I didn’t think it would. People now complaining all the time, now they will start twice as more.
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#16 Posted : Thursday, October 11, 2018 10:00:59 AM(UTC)
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As for the price of postage, like most things coming out of congress, the current way of determining postage is not working.

And, businesses need to recognize that they are getting a free ride for their advertising.
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#17 Posted : Thursday, October 11, 2018 10:06:01 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Julia Go to Quoted Post
Postmaster at my office posted today that prices are going up, starting January 27th. Wow, I didn’t think it would. People now complaining all the time, now they will start twice as more.


This is a request.

Under current law the price of postage is tied to the CPI.

I doubt 1st class postage is raised more than 2 cents.

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#18 Posted : Thursday, October 11, 2018 5:57:10 PM(UTC)
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A little more clarity.

The U.S. Postal Service has proposed a 9 to 12 percent increase in fees for the shipping service used by Amazon, just months after President Donald Trump criticized the USPS, saying it gives Amazon too good of a deal.

The parcel select service, which is also used by United Parcel Service UPS and FedEx FDX, is the last and typically the most expensive step in the shipping process that gets the packages to customers' doorsteps. The USPS proposed a 9.3 percent increase on this service for packages weighing over one pound and a 12.3 percent increase on lighter packages.

Donald Trump issued an executive order in April to set up a task force to examine the USPS, claiming that it was on an "unsustainable financial path." He's also tweeted that the USPS is Amazon's "delivery boy" and doesn't make money from Amazon's business.

A USPS spokesperson said these proposed changes are not a response to Trump's criticism.

"The price increases reflect the best judgment of the Postal Service Governors, who are seeking to establish new rates that will keep the Postal Service competitive, while also providing the Postal Service with much needed revenue," the spokesperson said.

The USPS also proposed a 3.9 percent increase on priority mail express, a 5.9 percent increase on priority mail and a 10 percent increase on first-class stamps.

These changes, if approved by regulators, will go into effect on Jan. 27, 2019.

Sounds good to me. But they REALLY need to jump up the price of catalogs and mags to at least break-even. Right now, each piece is a money-loser for us.
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#19 Posted : Thursday, October 11, 2018 6:10:45 PM(UTC)
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Perhaps they should start looking into cost cutting as well. Our work force could totally be leaned out. Not carriers as much as the other crafts....custodians and drivers. Custodians could easily be contracted out like most companies do. Drivers? Again, contracted out. Our financials suck and big changes will be needed to fix this sinking ship. They don’t even have the money to modernize and get ahead of the game. Something needs to happen, one way or the other. Lately with how insanely jacked up our mail has been coming from the plant I would say they could need some house cleaning too. It’s like they don’t even try to do their job well. Terrible!
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#20 Posted : Thursday, October 11, 2018 6:21:52 PM(UTC)
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I'm all for it, where the hell else can you mail a 13oz package for $5.50?

Along with the flat rate boxes, they need to go up, even if we are cheaper than FedEx or UPS by a few dollars, it's better than the margin gap right now.

Freakin' $24.70 for overnight, w/ a money back guarantee...come on FedEx and UPS ain't touching that.

And first class letters and envelopes, yeah I don't think they should mess with that, let's count er the cost with parcels.

I mean seriously, 12x12x5 box up to 70lbs domestically for $18.90...the competition isn't even close! We could go up an extra 2, 3 or 5 dollars and still be cheaper than the competition.

Yes Amazon should be paying more, I agree!

Hands down, mgmt salaries need to be cut first. Sorry, but if this was as private sector those salaries would be at least 15-20% lower for the amount of work actually performed. The computers tell them what to say and do, the computers give carriers and clerks expectations, the computers record time and data...catch my drift?
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